All,
Having discussed the permit process at length with David and Hol, we came
to the conclusion that coordinating our efforts makes the most sense. This
will save permitting costs and not aggravate the inspector, who otherwise
will need to plan a visit for every piece-wise permit. Electrical plans
should be documented to all extent possible. This means drawings of what is
to be removed and what will need to be installed. The drawings are not any
consequence to the city nor inspector, however, they are very useful for
in-house coordination and contractor bid process.
The permit should be comprised of generalities that describe the minor
changes to the existing electrical system. Furthermore, it should be for
the *entire* building. Inspection is required prior to electrifying any new
or modified circuits. The inspector will plan on coming one time to inspect
everything, plugs need to be out of their boxes, jbox's exposed w/o the
plate cover (but the cover needs to be present), new breakers should not be
installed in sub-panels unless the entire panel is locked and tagged out
(this means no one can accidentally turn on the supply breaker).
Lastly, we need to have a licensed electrician preform the install. So go
through your contacts. Lastly I think we should meet face to face to
discuss how to move forward and to review the permit draft which needs to
be prepared. I will be out of town this weekend but will be available via
phone. This
<http://www.oaklandparkfl.org/cityservices/forms/documents/ElectricalPermitA…>
is
the permit. Also you may find this
<https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Fgw5himtlmemiXReP-fG6rP-I2RoXsSP_MA…>useful,
the information is not exactly correct but please feel free to use it for
reference- it is what we started with to get a handle of material cost and
scope of Sudo's electrical needs.
Whit
510-396-5510
On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 1:13 PM, <hol(a)gaskill.com> wrote:
> Steve I am forwarding this thread to Whitney who drafted our electrical
> plans and has been spearheading the electrical effort, and can probably
> give you a better answer on the exact permit timeline and costs.
>
>
>
> cheers
>
>
>
>
> On 2014-08-29 11:24, Steve Orth wrote:
>
> I think that we're almost ready with our plans. Would getting them to you
> by Tuesday afternoon work for you?
>
> On Friday, August 29, 2014, <hol(a)gaskill.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Steve,
>>
>>
>>
>> We were planning to pull a permit for sudo room's electrical work which
>> is fully planned out. There is some overhead of getting the permit and the
>> inspection, which I believe is ~$160 which could be spread over the 2
>> projects. Throughout the building we are planning to address things
>> specifically called out in the fire inspection, which will be covering
>> junction boxes for the most part. How close are y'all to having a plan
>> ready?
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2014-08-29 10:56, Steve Orth wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> This is Steve from la Commune. I hear that Sudo was going to apply for
>> some building (electrical) permits. La Commune is going to be doing the
>> same. I was wondering what you all thought about the idea of us applying in
>> the same bundle to possibly save cost?
>>
>> Im not even sure if this would save cost. But maybe it would?
>>
>> Hope you're both well.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Steve
>>
>>
from the email you forwarded:
"I'm so excited to become a part of the Omni collective. In walking
around the building I've identified an area I think will work well for
my studio. It is the current utility room and kitchen adjacent to the
cafe. Since the kitchen will be moved downstairs anyway I figure we can
take down the non load bearing wall between those two spaces and make it
an area big enough to house my printing press, heaters, tables and
storage."
there was another proposal on the table for La Commune to block the
entire entry via the door we normally take to access sudo/ccl after 6pm,
with the suggested alternative that we have access via the doors at the
end of the hallway/kitchen onto 48th street. i don't think splitting
access to a separate entryway after 6pm is the preferred alternative
from hearing everyone's input, but if it were there would be a potential
conflict between that idea and converting the area that is now the
kitchen into a printshop.
cheers
On 2014-08-29 11:47, David Keenan wrote:
> Sorry hol.. I know yr probably at work but - what'r ya askin about the hallway?
>
> I was just saying, in the detail drawing there is enough room for the press, but it doesn't seem to match what I measured in real life - I was hoping someone could go check real quick, and maybe measure the width of the kitchen-area hallway too.
>
> David
>
> On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 11:39 AM, <hol(a)gaskill.com> wrote:
>
> so nothing in the hallway?
>
> On 2014-08-29 11:34, David Keenan wrote:
> Patrik:
> Since riseup limits attachment size I sent the perhaps-partially-deprecated floorplans for the NW corner and upstairs mezzanine as marked up by our architect for john (since he wanted to be able to approve far in advance.)
>
> Hol: Good point..
>
> And now actually looking at the detail drawings I see it says 13'3" N-S in the 'ice room' (aka utility room, aka garbage room.) That would be enough room for Gabriela's press with no modification to walls. But. I feel like when we or Gabriela measured it in person (I can't remember who did so), it was definitely less (why I proposed the pony wall be moved back).
>
> Can someone actually go re-measure the width of this room, from 48th st side, to the hallway wall, so we know what it is?
>
> David
>
> On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 11:19 AM, <hol(a)gaskill.com> wrote:
>
> it would be good to see a drawing of the area being proposed since there seems to be some confusion
>
> On 2014-08-29 11:12, Patrik D'haeseleer wrote:
>
> On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 11:01 AM, David Keenan <dkeenan44(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> What should happen is our earlier-discussed (and approved by john, if we want to do it) floorplan of putting doors into the north sides of both the storage rooms to provide further means of egress from CCL.
>
> If there is a floorplan already approved with John, please share it - because I have not seen anything on paper, and I don't think that what you have in mind is the same as what I've been talking about!
>
> With this in mind, I think the NE room would be a better room for CCL's lab, if that is an option for you guys? It is a bigger room, and putting a doorway in the storage room closer to the hallway would allow essentially a straight shot through to the double-doors on 48th - Such access could be really useful for example to bring a scissor lift into Sudo/CCL so it does not have to make turns, as well.
>
> What I have been suggesting is to route the exit through the small room in between the two storage rooms. That would indeed be a straight shot, and would not affect either storage room. But we would need somebody to check whether the doorway width we can achieve there would be up to code.
>
> Patrik
>
> _______________________________________________
> sudo-discuss mailing list
> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org
> https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss [1]
Links:
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For meeting on Weds, an OMNI proposal for a tenant (non-member?):
fwd'ing along
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Rise Above Printing <info(a)riseaboveoakland.com>
Date: Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 1:24 AM
Subject: Re: [omnilogistics] [Critical] Cannot pass new member Rise Above
printing
To: omnilogistics(a)lists.riseup.net
Hi Matt and Omni Collective,
Hopefully this is going to the whole list, if not can you please forward.
At the beginning of August I emailed my proposal to join the Omni with my
responses to the collective joining questionnaire. I sent this to David
Keenan and Niki who were my contact points at that time but I'm not sure if
it got forwarded to the group, so I'm pasting it below. Please let me know
what the next steps might be to answer the questions of the group or
further the discussion of my tenancy and/or membership potential.
It was great to be able to stay for the whole meeting tonight and I can
tell you all are going about your processes in a careful and smart way.
While my situation is time sensitive, I think it's important to give this
decision the time it deserves. If you could let me know what to expect as
far as the near future that'd be great.
Thanks,
Gabriela
Rise Above Graphics is a screen print shop run by myself and occasional
other helpers. We specialize in printing on fabric and clothing. We print
limited edition runs of artist designed t-shirts as well as doing custom
printing for a wide variety of customers. We also offer design services.
I started the print operation in 2005 after much trial and error and self
teaching. What started out small has gained a lot of momentum and now Rise
Above has an excellent reputation and almost more work that we can
sometimes handle. We print for many local artists, bands, shops, schools,
etc. and offer discounts for non-profits.
I've had a dream of joining efforts with others for a long time. When I was
ready to move into a public space I was fortunate enough to come across a
wonderful corner spot on Telegraph and decided to expand into an art
gallery as well. It was such a pleasure to spend 3 years there helping
artists and guest curators use the space for a wide variety of creativity
and expression. Rise Above and Smokeys Tangle developed the Temescal Art
Hop and maintained the Temescal First Fridays and I'm hoping we can both
find a way to resist being pushed out of the neighborhood and keep
supporting the arts in Temescal.
Now that I am being evicted from my spot, for condo conversion I'm looking
to find a place where I can both focus on my print shop and also be part of
a community with a cross pollination of ideas, efforts and energy.
To be honest I am concerned for the future of this neighborhood, which is
also my home. Instead of moving my shop elsewhere I'd much prefer to stay
and join the group effort to maintain conscious growth and resist rampant
commercialization and homogenization.
My income comes from customers who pay for my design and print skills. It's
not the most lucrative business but it has been maintaining itself (and my
daughter and I) for the past several years. I can contribute to the Omni
financially in the form of rent. I can also offer my print services to the
community for cheap or barter. I also envison working with the other
artists/printers/curators/teachers etc. within the collective on
collaborations of making, learning, art events, etc. The possibilities
actually seem kind of infinite at this point!
Looking forward to getting to know everyone more and talking more about all
this potential.
Gabriela Laz
Rise Above Print Shop + Gallery
www.riseaboveoakland.com
On Aug 28, 2014, at 10:19 PM, Matthew Senate wrote:
Hey all,
I regret to bring this up just after what was largely a productive and
important meeting.
However, based on my conversations with sudo room members after the meeting
was over, I need to require that my abstain for this vote must be changed
to a block vote.
Unfortunately, the sudo room has not previously consented to adding a new
member collective. For a decision as serious as adding a new member, I hope
the other members of The Omni Oakland Collective can respect this change of
position, and the need to take time. I hear this strongly from our sudo
community and I hope this resonates with you all.
I wish I was more prepared and able to respond in a timely fashion during
the meeting today, but regretfully, I was not and did not.
You can see no such decision or approval to add Rise Above as a new member
collective was made this past meeting:
https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Meeting_Notes_2014-08-27
Nor on the 13th: https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Meeting_Notes_2014-08-13
The sudo room members were waiting for a more formal proposal answering the
questions here: http://wiki.omni-oakland.org/w/Join
Is someone willing to contact Rise Above directly, ASAP?
// Matt
Hey all,
Okay, so I have a tough question to ask!!!
Here's The Omni's calendar http://wiki.omni-oakland.org/w/Calendar
We *can *host the event on Oct 25-26, BUT we'll have to coordinate with a
concurrent event:
http://wiki.omni-oakland.org/w/Event:2014/10/24_Alette_in_Oakland They
expect 100-150 people mainly in the ballroom (
http://wiki.omni-oakland.org/w/File:Omni_full_floorplan_NS.svg).
I'd anticipate a BACH Unconference maybe getting close to the 100+ mark
only with a great turnout, but probably closer to ~50 with rolling
attendees (folks leaving and new folks arriving) for this first-time event.
Either number of people would fit in the basement + sudo room's space (see
same floorplan above).
Here are the *Alette in Oakland* (concurrent event) details:
Fri Oct 24: 7-10pm
Sat Oct 25: 10am-10pm
Sun Oct 26: 11am-3pm
We're not sure if there will be sound issues between the ballroom and
basement, but we can try to find out beforehand. I don't think it will be
too big of an issue if we're not using amplified sound.
Alternatively, we can pick an earlier date with more flexibility of
location and concurrency
Oct 4-5 has:
http://wiki.omni-oakland.org/w/Event:2014/10/04_Anne%27s_White_Glove_rehear…
Oct 11-12 has:
http://wiki.omni-oakland.org/w/Event:2014/10/11_Oakland_Nights_Live and
http://wiki.omni-oakland.org/w/Event:2014/10/12_Anne%27s_White_Glove_rehear…
// Matt
On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 8:52 PM, Mitch Altman <
mitch(a)cornfieldelectronics.com> wrote:
> It would be great to see you again on this coast. :)
>
>
> --------------------------------
>
> On 8/22/2014 8:00 PM, John Love wrote:
>
> Exciting!!! Hoping I can make it back west by then. :-)
>
> Missing y'all!
> @curiousjohn
>
> Matthew Senate <mattsenate(a)gmail.com>
> August 21, 2014 at 4:29 AM
> Hey all,
>
> This thread has been an on-going discussion for hackerspaces in the bay
> area, and a topic of a few of the in-person BACH meetings.
>
> At the sudo room meeting tonight we discussed an opportunity to revive
> this thread and galvanize peer-to-peer coordination and collaboration among
> the wider bay area hackerspace community by hosting the first BACH
> Unconference at sudo room and counter culture labs's new location: The Omni
> http://omni-oakland.org/
>
> I mocked-up a site we can use for the event:
>
> http://2014.ba.chgrp.org/
>
> It's fork-able at https://github.com/chgrp/2014.ba
>
> The date is not totally set of course, so holler if there's a good
> reason to change it, but some time in October should be the goal!
>
> Also, maybe there should be a Halloween theme?
>
> // Matt
>
>
>
Hey all,
Lauren is going to stop by to stow some darkroom equipment for the future
community lab in the teeny tiny scary basement room in the SE corner.
If you see her, please let her in, dorect her to that room and ask her to
put a Do Not Havk sign on it..?
thx!
d
i already had plans in line for tonight when the work party was
announced this morning so won't be able to make it by - in the interest
of getting sudo's input on the proposal though, it might be best to just
send it out to the list.
cheers
On 2014-08-29 11:26, Brel Froebe wrote:
> i have a copy since she passed them out at the meeting. I will have it with me at the space today after 5pm for a work party, if you are around and want to check it out, come find me, i'll be in the ballroom mainly.
>
> On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 11:19 AM, <hol(a)gaskill.com> wrote:
>
> it would be good to see a drawing of the area being proposed since there seems to be some confusion
>
> On 2014-08-29 11:12, Patrik D'haeseleer wrote:
>
> On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 11:01 AM, David Keenan <dkeenan44(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> What should happen is our earlier-discussed (and approved by john, if we want to do it) floorplan of putting doors into the north sides of both the storage rooms to provide further means of egress from CCL.
>
> If there is a floorplan already approved with John, please share it - because I have not seen anything on paper, and I don't think that what you have in mind is the same as what I've been talking about!
>
> With this in mind, I think the NE room would be a better room for CCL's lab, if that is an option for you guys? It is a bigger room, and putting a doorway in the storage room closer to the hallway would allow essentially a straight shot through to the double-doors on 48th - Such access could be really useful for example to bring a scissor lift into Sudo/CCL so it does not have to make turns, as well.
>
> What I have been suggesting is to route the exit through the small room in between the two storage rooms. That would indeed be a straight shot, and would not affect either storage room. But we would need somebody to check whether the doorway width we can achieve there would be up to code.
>
> Patrik
>
> _______________________________________________
> sudo-discuss mailing list
> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org
> https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss [1]
Links:
------
[1] https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss
Hey all,
Yes - Gabriela's message above was forwarded to omnilogistics on 8/7. She
also spoke at that week's delegates meeting, as well as at this week's
delegate meeting. She has also come by several times and spoken with folks
in the building.
Together with her most recent email and time to talk tonight, I think
Gabriela has by this point functionally answered most of the questions in
the questionnaire, and I think certainly addressed the spirit of the
questionnaire in terms of being forthcoming about who she is and what she
brings to the omni community.
But Sudo is a larger group that does things in a more formal manner and if
Sudo needs more time to discuss Rise Above's co-subtenancy (if that is the
right word for all of us here?), then I think one more week can and should
be afforded, even if it is not ideal. It's no one's 'fault' - all of us are
volunteers and things just take longer than they should.
By the same token of accepting that situations are not ideal, in that same
spirit I hope Sudoers recognize that the actual process for adding new
co-subtenants (maybe roommate is a better word) is not exactly a well-oiled
machine at all, that all of us are operating in good faith, and that we
should all still make an effort to accommodate new tenants within the
context of this still-imperfect process - both in the general spirit of
mutual aid, and for the ongoing survival of the overall project. Other,
earlier potential new tenants, like RLL and Ian, didn't make it through our
intake process in part because our this process was less than perfect.
In addition to Gabriela's emails and presentations at delegate meetings --
some quick facts to consider:
- Willing to pay a max of $1000/mo
- Needs ~11' radius work area for her 6-screen silkscreen press; some space
for a desk; good ventilation, daylight for doing art stuff
- Would like to work in the utility room for her 6-screen silkscreen press,
which she is willing to share and train others within the Omni community to
use also, in the spirit of radical sharing (so long the space and equipment
is thoughtfully cared for, her inventory like t-shirts is potentially
secureable, etc.)
- Is willing to contribute towards fixing up that room:
-- removing or moving backward into the hallway part of the pony-wall
separating the kitchen from that area so she has enough room,
-- putting in a window, etc.
Btw -- in terms of the current ground-floor kitchen in the hallway:
Health and Fire say its gotta go (not to code for commercial use, which is
what we are..). Remember guys, there is another kitchen upstairs - we just
can't access it yet, cause John and Mary are using it. But anyhow this
particular hallway has to stop being a kitchen, so - Rise Above's presence
is not a factor in that, just in case folks were worried about that.
- Rise Above would also need to occasionally use part of the area
near/adjacent to in the walk-in-freezer area for rinsing out screens - this
coincides with the need of the cafe & basement kitchen to have a mop sink /
cleaning supply area as per health code. Is willing to help invest in the
cost of upgrading this area too in order to serve this need.
Other thoughts:
In addition, although this feels like it needs to elaboration, welcoming
Gabriela fulfills the function of preserving the cultural production of
local artists which is obviously being gentrified out of existence in this
neighborhood. Providing a continued home for her work fulfils a real-time
function of social justice in terms of helping this local community we have
moved into, and that feels really important to me. (She also lives in this
neighborhood.) She is well-connected to the neighborhood and I think will
really help integrate Omni into the local social fabric.
Also, her press is a natural companion resource to TIL's community press
area in the basement in terms of the community having access to means of
production - not unlike Sudo in its computer-y way, BAPS in its radical
pedagogical way, CCL in its bio way, etc.
In addition I have helped spend a few weeks working out with Gabriela what
spaces in the building might be mutually compatible for Gabriela and OOC.
This process, with any potential tenant, takes time before a proper
application be effectively and thoughtfully made with regards space (an
aspect that is not yet reflected in the questionnaire: where and how often
space used, not just how much.) As pondering RLL and Ian taught us, it is
not the easiest thing in the world to find a new roommate - who is kind,
cool, able to contribute financially at a solid level, and above all into
the spirit of radical sharing indexical to this project and our survival.
Maybe I'm not the only one, but I've put a lot of time and care into
efforts at getting new tenants - pitched to multiple law collectives, other
free schools, and others - and I think Rise Above is a solid fit. For
sudoers' deliberation I would only ask, in terms of process -- let's not
let perfection be the enemy of the good..? Not that y'all are doing that -
I'm just saying, yes, this *process* may not yet be perfect, but in my
view, Rise Above is definitely good :)
Lotsa love -
me
On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 1:24 AM, Rise Above Printing <
info(a)riseaboveoakland.com> wrote:
> Hi Matt and Omni Collective,
> Hopefully this is going to the whole list, if not can you please forward.
> At the beginning of August I emailed my proposal to join the Omni with my
> responses to the collective joining questionnaire. I sent this to David
> Keenan and Niki who were my contact points at that time but I'm not sure if
> it got forwarded to the group, so I'm pasting it below. Please let me know
> what the next steps might be to answer the questions of the group or
> further the discussion of my tenancy and/or membership potential.
> It was great to be able to stay for the whole meeting tonight and I can
> tell you all are going about your processes in a careful and smart way.
> While my situation is time sensitive, I think it's important to give this
> decision the time it deserves. If you could let me know what to expect as
> far as the near future that'd be great.
> Thanks,
> Gabriela
>
>
> Rise Above Graphics is a screen print shop run by myself and occasional
> other helpers. We specialize in printing on fabric and clothing. We print
> limited edition runs of artist designed t-shirts as well as doing custom
> printing for a wide variety of customers. We also offer design services.
>
> I started the print operation in 2005 after much trial and error and self
> teaching. What started out small has gained a lot of momentum and now Rise
> Above has an excellent reputation and almost more work that we can
> sometimes handle. We print for many local artists, bands, shops, schools,
> etc. and offer discounts for non-profits.
>
> I've had a dream of joining efforts with others for a long time. When I
> was ready to move into a public space I was fortunate enough to come across
> a wonderful corner spot on Telegraph and decided to expand into an art
> gallery as well. It was such a pleasure to spend 3 years there helping
> artists and guest curators use the space for a wide variety of creativity
> and expression. Rise Above and Smokeys Tangle developed the Temescal Art
> Hop and maintained the Temescal First Fridays and I'm hoping we can both
> find a way to resist being pushed out of the neighborhood and keep
> supporting the arts in Temescal.
>
> Now that I am being evicted from my spot, for condo conversion I'm looking
> to find a place where I can both focus on my print shop and also be part of
> a community with a cross pollination of ideas, efforts and energy.
>
> To be honest I am concerned for the future of this neighborhood, which is
> also my home. Instead of moving my shop elsewhere I'd much prefer to stay
> and join the group effort to maintain conscious growth and resist rampant
> commercialization and homogenization.
>
> My income comes from customers who pay for my design and print skills.
> It's not the most lucrative business but it has been maintaining itself
> (and my daughter and I) for the past several years. I can contribute to the
> Omni financially in the form of rent. I can also offer my print services to
> the community for cheap or barter. I also envison working with the other
> artists/printers/curators/teachers etc. within the collective on
> collaborations of making, learning, art events, etc. The possibilities
> actually seem kind of infinite at this point!
>
> Looking forward to getting to know everyone more and talking more about
> all this potential.
>
> Gabriela Laz
> Rise Above Print Shop + Gallery
> www.riseaboveoakland.com
>
> On Aug 28, 2014, at 10:19 PM, Matthew Senate wrote:
>
> Hey all,
>
> I regret to bring this up just after what was largely a productive and
> important meeting.
>
> However, based on my conversations with sudo room members after the
> meeting was over, I need to require that my abstain for this vote must be
> changed to a block vote.
>
> Unfortunately, the sudo room has not previously consented to adding a new
> member collective. For a decision as serious as adding a new member, I hope
> the other members of The Omni Oakland Collective can respect this change of
> position, and the need to take time. I hear this strongly from our sudo
> community and I hope this resonates with you all.
>
> I wish I was more prepared and able to respond in a timely fashion during
> the meeting today, but regretfully, I was not and did not.
>
> You can see no such decision or approval to add Rise Above as a new member
> collective was made this past meeting:
> https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Meeting_Notes_2014-08-27
> Nor on the 13th: https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Meeting_Notes_2014-08-13
>
> The sudo room members were waiting for a more formal proposal answering
> the questions here: http://wiki.omni-oakland.org/w/Join
>
> Is someone willing to contact Rise Above directly, ASAP?
>
> // Matt
>
>
>
Lost in Omni - any sudoers know wheres?
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Brel Froebe <brel.alexandre(a)gmail.com>
Date: Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 1:40 AM
Subject: [omnilogistics] LOST ITEM FROM OAKLAND TOOL LIBRARY! HELP!
To: omnilogistics(a)lists.riseup.net
Hi,
I borrowed 2 items from the Temescal/Oakland tool library, a
flatbar(crowbar) and a square/triangle. I put them both in the locked room
off the ballroom that is on the shattuck side that houses all the tools,
but when i went in there on thurs. i couldnt find it anywhere! does anyone
know where it is? I really don't want my borrowing privileges to get
revoked, because that was my probationary tool borrow, so i REALLY need to
find it and return it before sunday! please keep an eye out or put it back
or let someone know who can return it to me. i will be in the space
tomorrow after 5pm.
Thanks for your help!
Peace,
brel