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Fwd: 11/2013 Statement, 2141 Broadway

by mattsenate＠gmail.com

// Matt ----- Forwarded message ----- From: "Laurie Cooperman Rosen" <Lscoop(a)comcast.net> To: <exchequer(a)sudoroom.org> Cc: <eddan(a)eddan.com>, <mattsenate(a)gmail.com> Subject: 11/2013 Statement, 2141 Broadway Date: Tue, Oct 29, 2013 08:59 Hi Eddan and Matt (and who is exchequer?...the last email I sent to that address bounced, so I'm not sure whether it's still a valid one!)....attached is the November Sudo Room Statement. Thank you! Laurie

10 years, 11 months

Broke fancy smart phone, arg.

by Pete Forsyth

So, today I dropped my fancy smart phone (HTC One S) and smashed the screen to smithereens. I have almost (almost! but I think not quite) just had it with the concept of cell phones, almost ready to just figure out how to plan ahead and make use of my land line and wifi. But I don't think I'm there -- I just rely too heavily on stuff like Google Maps and text messaging when I travel or am otherwise out and about. I thought I'd throw the question out there before I up and buy a new phone. Does anybody have a 4g, T-Mobile compatible phone they'd recommend…or perhaps one to sell? Or… what are some good "I'm sick of dealing with cell phones" hacks these days? Pete p.s. I'm (finally!) out of my TMobile contract and happily so. I am also done with insurance plans. I want to just buy something free and clear, something that I can unlock and potentially throw a foreign SIM into in the future. Even if it means spending more up front. I'm sick of cell carrier shenanigans and don't want to play their money games if I can avoid it.

10 years, 11 months

fwd: Raw Foods Meetup Group in Main Space Sunday Afternoon, 11/3/13

by Eddan Katz

> From: "Laurie Cooperman Rosen" <Lscoop(a)comcast.net> > Subject: Raw Foods Meetup Group in Main Space Sunday Afternoon, 11/3/13 > Date: October 28, 2013 8:40:36 PM PDT > To: <exchequer(a)sudoroom.org>, <eddan(a)eddan.com>, <poems(a)zachhouston.com>, <mattsenate(a)gmail.com>, 'd'É-Aatenhejm' <timondocent(a)gmail.com>, "'Robert Wenzel'" <rw(a)economicpolicyjournal.com> > > Hi All~ > This is a reminder that there will be a Raw Foods meetup group in the main space on Sunday, 11/3. The crowd shouldn’t be terribly large, so the setup will be centered on the area in front of and around the Kitchenette. We will need it from 2-6pm. Try to get personal belongings out of that part of the room, and move any furnishings or heavy objects that are close to that area….we will be setting up tables and the desk/chairs around that area. I’ll send you the email in case anybody wants to sign up for the event (it’s a class about Fermentation). > Thanks for your assistance! We will remove all garbage from the event separately at the end of the event. > Laurie > > From: "Laurie Cooperman Rosen" <Lscoop(a)comcast.net> > Subject: FW: Sunday: Join 11 Raw Food enthusiasts at "Fermentation Fiesta!" > Date: October 28, 2013 8:41:27 PM PDT > To: <exchequer(a)sudoroom.org>, <eddan(a)eddan.com>, <poems(a)zachhouston.com>, <mattsenate(a)gmail.com>, 'd'É-Aatenhejm' <timondocent(a)gmail.com>, "'Robert Wenzel'" <rw(a)economicpolicyjournal.com> > > Here is the event info…… > > From: info(a)meetup.com [mailto:info@meetup.com] > Sent: Monday, October 28, 2013 5:12 PM > To: lscoop(a)comcast.net > Subject: Sunday: Join 11 Raw Food enthusiasts at "Fermentation Fiesta!" > > > > > SUNDAY > Fermentation Fiesta! > East Bay Raw Food Meetup Group (was Oakland Raw Food group) > Sunday, November 3, 2013 > 3:00 PM > 2141 Broadway > 2141 Broadway > Oakland, CA 94612 > Price: $25.00 per person > Pay online > Will you attend? > Yes > No > 11 Raw Food enthusiasts attending, including: > > Vi Louise > Friend of friend > > Laura Verduzco > "I've been vegan for a few years and eat a lot of raw food. I'd like to continue to explore raw foodism." > > Stacy Waters > "I am a raw food nutrition and wellness coach and founder of www.RawFoodForTheRestOfUs.com...." > > Nan > > Lanette Ferguson > "Hi! I am Lanette and I eat a primarily plant based diet and am interested in learning more about eating Raw." > > Nora Scully > "just started juicing and wanted to connect with more people who are eating raw, so I can learn how to eat more veggies." > Do you want to learn about fermented foods? Or maybe you already a pro at fermenting certain foods? Come join us! This meet-up is an opportunity for those who love make fermented foods, love to eat fermented foods, and those want to learn to eat ... > LEARN MORE > > Sponsored by Heather Haxo Phillips, Permacharts/Helping Hands and Mahendra Aka Briksha > To stop receiving reminder emails about Meetups from this group, click here. > > Add info(a)meetup.com to your address book to receive all Meetup emails > To manage your email settings, click here > Meetup, POB 4668 #37895 NY NY USA 10163 > Meetup HQ in NYC is hiring! meetup.com/jobs

10 years, 11 months

Fwd: FW: Sunday: Join 11 Raw Food enthusiasts at "Fermentation Fiesta!"

by Matthew Senate

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Laurie Cooperman Rosen <Lscoop(a)comcast.net> Date: Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 8:41 PM Subject: FW: Sunday: Join 11 Raw Food enthusiasts at "Fermentation Fiesta!" To: exchequer(a)sudoroom.org, eddan(a)eddan.com, poems(a)zachhouston.com, mattsenate(a)gmail.com, d'É-Aatenhejm <timondocent(a)gmail.com>, Robert Wenzel < rw(a)economicpolicyjournal.com> Here is the event info……**** ** ** *From:* info(a)meetup.com [mailto:info@meetup.com] *Sent:* Monday, October 28, 2013 5:12 PM *To:* lscoop(a)comcast.net *Subject:* Sunday: Join 11 Raw Food enthusiasts at "Fermentation Fiesta!"*** * ** ** **** [image: Meetup] <http://www.meetup.com/t/me1_1>**** **** Sunday **** *Fermentation Fiesta!<http://www.meetup.com/The-East-Bay-Raw-Food-Meetup-Group/events/142579942/t…> * East Bay Raw Food Meetup Group (was Oakland Raw Food group)**** Sunday, November 3, 2013 3:00 PM **** 2141 Broadway 2141 Broadway Oakland, CA 94612 **** Price: $25.00 per person Pay online<http://www.meetup.com/The-East-Bay-Raw-Food-Meetup-Group/events/142579942/t…> **** Will you attend?**** *Ye**s*<http://www.meetup.com/The-East-Bay-Raw-Food-Meetup-Group/events/142579942/t…> **** *N**o*<http://www.meetup.com/The-East-Bay-Raw-Food-Meetup-Group/events/142579942/t…> **** *11 Raw Food enthusiasts attending, including: * <http://www.meetup.com/The-East-Bay-Raw-Food-Meetup-Group/members/65787922/t…> **** Vi Louise<http://www.meetup.com/The-East-Bay-Raw-Food-Meetup-Group/members/65787922/t…> **** *Friend of friend *<http://www.meetup.com/The-East-Bay-Raw-Food-Meetup-Group/members/65787922/t…> **** <http://www.meetup.com/The-East-Bay-Raw-Food-Meetup-Group/members/12276223/t…> **** Laura Verduzco<http://www.meetup.com/The-East-Bay-Raw-Food-Meetup-Group/members/12276223/t…> **** "I've been vegan for a few years and eat a lot of raw food. I'd like to continue to explore raw foodism."**** ** ** <http://www.meetup.com/The-East-Bay-Raw-Food-Meetup-Group/members/10407730/t…> **** Stacy Waters<http://www.meetup.com/The-East-Bay-Raw-Food-Meetup-Group/members/10407730/t…> **** "I am a raw food nutrition and wellness coach and founder of www.RawFoodForTheRestOfUs.com...."**** <http://www.meetup.com/The-East-Bay-Raw-Food-Meetup-Group/members/8671763/t/…> **** Nan<http://www.meetup.com/The-East-Bay-Raw-Food-Meetup-Group/members/8671763/t/…> **** <http://www.meetup.com/The-East-Bay-Raw-Food-Meetup-Group/members/9591860/t/…> **** Lanette Ferguson<http://www.meetup.com/The-East-Bay-Raw-Food-Meetup-Group/members/9591860/t/…> **** "Hi! I am Lanette and I eat a primarily plant based diet and am interested in learning more about eating Raw."**** ** ** <http://www.meetup.com/The-East-Bay-Raw-Food-Meetup-Group/members/47034832/t…> **** Nora Scully<http://www.meetup.com/The-East-Bay-Raw-Food-Meetup-Group/members/47034832/t…> **** "just started juicing and wanted to connect with more people who are eating raw, so I can learn how to eat more veggies."**** Do you want to learn about fermented foods? Or maybe you already a pro at fermenting certain foods? Come join us! This meet-up is an opportunity for those who love make fermented foods, love to eat fermented foods, and those want to learn to eat ... Learn more<http://www.meetup.com/The-East-Bay-Raw-Food-Meetup-Group/events/142579942/t…> **** ** ** Sponsored by Heather Haxo Phillips<http://www.meetup.com/The-East-Bay-Raw-Food-Meetup-Group/sponsors/>, Permacharts/Helping Hands<http://www.meetup.com/The-East-Bay-Raw-Food-Meetup-Group/sponsors/>and Mahendra Aka Briksha <http://www.meetup.com/The-East-Bay-Raw-Food-Meetup-Group/sponsors/>**** To stop receiving reminder emails about Meetups from this group, click here<http://www.meetup.com/__ms3798221/The-East-Bay-Raw-Food-Meetup-Group/optout…>. **** ** ** Add *info(a)meetup.com* to your address book to receive all Meetup emails**** To manage your email settings, click here<http://www.meetup.com/account/comm/> **** Meetup, POB 4668 #37895 NY NY USA 10163**** *Meetup HQ in NYC is hiring!* meetup.com/jobs <http://www.meetup.com/jobs/>* ***

10 years, 11 months

Fwd: Raw Foods Meetup Group in Main Space Sunday Afternoon, 11/3/13

by Matthew Senate

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Laurie Cooperman Rosen <Lscoop(a)comcast.net> Date: Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 8:40 PM Subject: Raw Foods Meetup Group in Main Space Sunday Afternoon, 11/3/13 To: exchequer(a)sudoroom.org, eddan(a)eddan.com, poems(a)zachhouston.com, mattsenate(a)gmail.com, d'É-Aatenhejm <timondocent(a)gmail.com>, Robert Wenzel < rw(a)economicpolicyjournal.com> Hi All~**** This is a reminder that there will be a Raw Foods meetup group in the main space on Sunday, 11/3. The crowd shouldn’t be terribly large, so the setup will be centered on the area in front of and around the Kitchenette. We will need it from 2-6pm. Try to get personal belongings out of that part of the room, and move any furnishings or heavy objects that are close to that area….we will be setting up tables and the desk/chairs around that area. I’ll send you the email in case anybody wants to sign up for the event (it’s a class about Fermentation).**** Thanks for your assistance! We will remove all garbage from the event separately at the end of the event.**** Laurie**** ** **

10 years, 11 months

OK for me to borrow RF spectrum analyzer for radio purposes?

by giovanni_re

Who, if anyone, do I need to ask re borrowing the SA for any Sudoroom Radio project purpose? I was told it is owned by some Jake. Is that Jake you? Thanks. :) --- Join the BerkeleyTIP-Global mail list - http://groups.google.com/group/BerkTIPGlobal. All Freedom SW, HW & Culture.

10 years, 11 months

Fwd: Oakland E Currency

by Eddan Katz

> From: "Wilson Riles" <wriles(a)pacbell.net> > Date: October 28, 2013 at 1:25:04 PM PDT > To: Eddan Katz <eddan(a)eddan.com>, "noibtno(a)gmail.com" <noibtno(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: Oakland E Currency > Reply-To: Wilson Riles <wriles(a)pacbell.net> > > Mr. Katz, > > I would be delighted if you and your colleagues at Sudo Room were to take and interest and be willing to play a part in furthering Oakland's ACORN currency. > > Attached is a document that lays out some of the reasoning and the design for this e-currency. > > Please let me know if you have any further questions. > > Wilson Riles > > > There simply is nothing to which we can attach ourselves, no matter how hard we try. In time, things will change and the conditions that produced our current desires will be gone. Why then cling to them now? > - Master Hsing Yun, "The Indescribable" > > From: Eddan Katz <eddan(a)eddan.com> > To: noibtno(a)gmail.com; wriles(a)pacbell.net > Sent: Monday, October 28, 2013 11:28 AM > Subject: Oakland E Currency > > I am interested in finding out more about Oakland eCurrency. > >

10 years, 11 months

Today - DC v SF: A Clash of Visions for Tech Policy (+ livestream)

by Eddan Katz

DC v SF: A Clash of Visions for Tech Policy Hosted by Reason, TechFreedom and the Charles Koch Institute Monday, October 28, 2013 from 12:00 PM to 1:30 PM (PDT) Hyatt Regency, 5 Embarcadero Center, San Francisco, CA 94111 > Event Details > > Do our nation’s policymakers and entrepreneurs share the same vision for technological change? Or are they fundamentally in conflict? > > What are the real fault lines in technology policy? Are traditional left/right divides breaking down? Where might a divided Congress reach consensus on policy issues crucial to the future of technology, such as privacy, immigration, intellectual property, censorship, Internet freedom, and biotech regulation? Can technology ultimately trump politics? > > For answers and more questions, join moderator Declan McCullagh (Chief Political Correspondent for CNET, @declanm), and a panel of technology policy experts: Berin Szoka (President, TechFreedom, @BerinSzoka), Larry Downes (Internet industry analyst and author), and Mike McGeary (Co-Founder and Chief Political Strategist, Engine Advocacy, @mdmcgeary). > > The event will be livestreamed and you can follow the conversation on Twitter with #DCvSF. > Livestream available at http://fora.tv/event/dc_v_sf_a_clash_of_visions_for_tech_policy/livestream

10 years, 11 months

FOSS Outreach Program for Women paid internships

by Marina Kukso

hey all, a friend forwarded this to me just now: "http://gnome.org/opw/ The Outreach Program for Women (OPW) helps women get involved in free and open source software. We provide a supportive community for beginning to contribute any time throughout the year and offer focused internship opportunities twice a year with a number of free software organizations. Applications are now accepted for the new round of the Outreach Program for Women internships. The application deadline is November 11, 2013 and the internship dates are December 10, 2013 to March 10, 2014. Students from the Southern Hemisphere, who will have a summer school break during this time, as well as non-students from around the world are encouraged to apply. Coding, design, documentation and other projects are available. The applicants are asked to collaborate with mentors from the participating organizations<https://wiki.gnome.org/OutreachProgramForWomen/2013/DecemberMarch/#Particip…>to make a contribution relevant to the project they are applying for during the application process. The accepted participants will work remotely, while being guided by their mentor, and receive $5,000 stipend. " if you think you might be interested or might like some more info, please email me off-list. - marina

10 years, 11 months

Re: [sudo-discuss] [consensus] Nominations for Board of Directors

by Jenny Ryan

On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Matthew Harbowy <hbergeronx(a)gmail.com>wrote: > Jenny, > > Are you reacting to my words, or are you willing to accept feedback? > > Matt H > I had thought my response to your feedback was both clear and constructive, an honest effort to represent the values of our community. Were I feeling less confident today, this private response questioning me for speaking my mind could have the chilling effect of making me feel guilty and ashamed for doing so. This frames my response as either a) 'reacting,' rather than responding critically, or b) 'willing to accept feedback,' implying I should accept your statements even though I disagree with many of them, and it would be dishonest to pretend otherwise. I appreciate your speaking your mind, and hope you can take my response in good faith. Jenny > On Sunday, October 27, 2013, Jenny Ryan wrote: > >> On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 11:04 AM, Matthew Harbowy <hbergeronx(a)gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> Quite frankly: no hierarchy is a bad idea. Minimal, flat, and respectful >>> leadership with as much power devolved/delegated as possible is great...but >>> there's always going to be people with less decision making authority than >>> others. Not everyone is going to have signing authority at the bank, and >>> most other organizations are going to want some form of continuity with >>> regard to point of contact. >> >> >> Our Articles clearly outline that decisions are made by either full or >> majority consensus, meaning that no member has more or less decision-making >> authority than any other member. The role of the board members would be to >> finalize the collective decision-making process on paper. >> >> We do have a bank account, and those who can sign checks are essentially >> those who've volunteered to do so. >> >> As it currently stands, whoever reaches out to another organization (be >> it other hackerspaces or grant-making agencies) becomes the point of >> contact for that relationship. >> >> >>> Being on the board of a successful organization is a point of some >>> pride, but likewise, being on the board of a sinking ship is stressful and >>> nerve wracking, especially when creditors come calling. If you intend to >>> operate as a cash business, you're going to need a leadership that can make >>> decisions on when to save and when to spend. If you intend to take on debt, >>> such as a mortgage or lease might entail, you're going to need to own your >>> decisions for good or bad, and expect praise when you lead with clarity, >>> and expect a lawsuit when you slack. You will not have any choice in the >>> matter: all organizations have good and bad days. >>> >> >> We are not a 'cash business,' but I may unclear on what you mean by that. >> A primary value of Sudo Room is cultivating a 'leader-full' membership - >> rather than no one having responsibility, we all do. I find it presumptuous >> to assume that our organization 'needs' leadership, when many of our >> members are involved in successful organizations that continue to run >> without a traditional leadership structure. >> >> >>> Honestly, Sudo Room seems to live hand to mouth every month because you >>> do not have a leadership willing to make tough decisions to save a buffer, >>> so that your landlord has less power over you. You had a plan to save but >>> have not executed on it. You are indebted, whether you acknowledge it or >>> not, to your (hopefully benevolent) dictators, like your Lord George, who >>> because they hold the power of debt above you, disempower you. What you >>> need is a renewed commitment to a savings plan, to live not at the lordship >>> of the weather but to be free through the insurance policy of a positive >>> cash flow. Perhaps this means developing relationships with a diverse set >>> of sources of wealth: both talent that adds value as well as grant giving >>> people and organizations. >>> >> >> I would agree that the system of landlords and renting property is >> innately corrupt, in part because of the top-down form of power and >> authority it perpetuates. Part of the motivation for incorporating and >> initiating the non-profit process is to be able to receive grants intended >> for 501c3 organizations, and I agree it's important to diversify our >> sources of funding. >> >> >>> You cannot de emphasize your board if you expect to be taken seriously >>> by other organizations, unless you only ever want to deal with >>> organizations that have similar ad hoc leadership. Honestly, I don't >>> believe that Noisebridge operates without the benefaction of invisible >>> leaders who actually lever great power. I think that there is the visible >>> process, and an invisible one, and you would be well served to make the >>> invisible visible. I value honesty and radical transparency, and I think >>> you should, too. >>> >>> >> Sudo Room should not sacrifice its foundational values so as to be taken >> seriously by traditional power structures. This is part and parcel of being >> a vessel of social change. Noisebridge has an ad hoc and ever-changing >> do-ocracy of leaders, as does Sudo. The inscription of a Board merely makes >> static what is in actuality a dynamic aspect of the community, hence its >> role (in the vein of honesty and radical transparency) is as merely an >> on-paper minimum satisfactory requirement for bureaucratic processes. Come >> to any meeting of Noisebridge or Sudo and it will be readily apparent who's >> currently taking on leadership roles. >> >> >>> What will happen if you are not cautious at this step is that everyone >>> will want to lead when things are good, and no one will want to lead when >>> fields are fallow. But the only time you ever really need a leader is when >>> times are tough, and the path is not clear. In those times, your leader >>> will have a quiet, wise voice, and you will need to have a board that is >>> listening, not speaking, if you hope to recover. Listening to that quiet >>> voice. >>> >> >> I have long been impressed with our community's capacity to listen to >> each other as equals in the leadership of our space. >> >> >>> I am strongly opposed to any proposal that involves enforced (or even >>> "recommended") silence. What your leaders need to do is not toot their own >>> horn, but advocate for those who do in the do ocracy, whether they be board >>> members or not. The board is the voice of those who do not have the >>> strength or courage to speak for themselves. The board needs to listen, not >>> speak, and learn who to hand the megaphone to. Such a board may seem >>> invisible, indistinguishable from and much like your "no hierarchy" board, >>> but it is a very different thing. >>> >> >> Our Directors are not our leaders, and Sudoers quite often toot each >> other's horns in supporting strong projects, contributions to the space, >> and wise proposals. I think we could *all* benefit from some facilitation >> training to become even better at supporting those who feel afraid or >> uncomfortable speaking for themselves. >> >> >>> A board must not speak for themselves, but be the voice of consensus. >>> What I have seen is a very strange form of popularity contest, which is why >>> I have chosen to withdraw my energy from this group over the last few >>> months. When you resume your commitments to transparency and saving, I will >>> give more strongly. But this "we're nearing zero balance" bullshit must >>> end, and you need to elect leaders who will deliver that end, soon, because >>> that is your path to freedom. Demand a plan for that, or withhold your vote. >>> >>> A popularity contest? Our commitment to transparency means that all of >> our human dramas, our difficulties in overcoming lifetimes of living within >> a system that perpetuates hierarchy and oppression, are there on the table >> for you to dissect from the comfort of your inbox. >> >> Saving is possible when there is an excess of income, which we do not now >> have nor have we ever had - this much is true. Hence moving forward with >> acquiring non-profit status and concretizing our membership policy (which I >> believe is next on the agenda after electing a board, with many ideas >> already discussed in previous meetings). >> >> >>> Your board may seem immaterial because success will be driven by your >>> members, but if you are wise, you will elect people who *can* lead without >>> power, drive without steering, promote without ego, and choose without >>> deciding. That should be the board you elect: and you *should* give them >>> all the power, because they will behave with your values and for you. >>> >>> Think about this: who listens for the sense of the group, then works >>> actively, builds consensus toward that? Elect them. Who demonstrates your >>> values? >>> >> >> Under our Articles of Association and the values we have defined as >> shared values from day 1, we are all imbued with these responsibilities and >> any Board is a construct of the State to satisfy minimum basic requirements >> of on-paper responsibility. If we could route around this requirement, we >> would. >> >> Jenny >> >> >>> Matt H. >>> >>> >>> On Sunday, October 27, 2013, Jenny Ryan wrote: >>> >>>> On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 8:43 PM, Eddan Katz <eddan(a)clear.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> just wondering how you're thinking about resumes that are available >>>>> online or on a personal blog as different from LinkedIn, etc.. sincerely >>>>> not sure what you mean by this paragraph below. >>>>> >>>>> sent from eddan.com >>>>> >>>>> > On Oct 26, 2013, at 8:12 PM, Jenny Ryan <tunabananas(a)gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> > I also think it's important we de-emphasize the Board as much as >>>>> possible - and in that vein would like to propose that anyone elected to >>>>> the board not list their "position" on LinkedIn, Facebook etc to avoid the >>>>> public image of having a hierarchical structure. However, it is indeed a >>>>> position of responsibility that reflects commitment to the group and, as >>>>> such, folks elected should be allowed to list it on job applications and >>>>> resumes if so desired. In a similar vein, anyone on the compact should very >>>>> much consider themselves a co-founder! >>>>> >>>> >>>> Hi! >>>> >>>> Replying to you, Eddan, as well as the list, in case anyone else was >>>> confused by this proposal. I was just thinking about the public perception >>>> of hierarchy and ways to minimize that. My distinguishing between LinkedIn >>>> and job applications was to distinguish between publicly- and >>>> privately-communicated content - so an online [public] blog, resume, etc >>>> would fall in the same category as LinkedIn for all intents and purposes. >>>> >>>> Just a suggestion, happy to discuss! >>>> >>>> >>

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