Ken makes some really good points as to the practical importance of
creating a user-friendly and attractive web presence for Noisebridge. This
topic/event may be of interest not only to people who want to help out
Noisebridge, but people interested in working on sudoroom dot org and the
wiki.
If you ever need wiki help, I am available.
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From: Ken M. Haggerty <kenmhaggerty(a)gmail.com>
Date: 2013/3/28
Subject: [Noisebridge-discuss] [8:00pm in Turing] Noisebridge Homepage
Hacking! Web development!
To: noisebridge-discuss(a)lists.noisebridge.net
*Interested in ...*
• Making it *easier* to *donate* to Noisebridge?!
• *Web* development?
• A more *usable* and *attractive* homepage for Noisebridge?
*NOISEBRIDGE HOMEPAGE HACKING!*
Stop by at *8:00p**m** tonight* in *Turing* (classroom) if interested in
helping or providing feedback
Ken Haggerty is organizing :D I will bring some cookies? Oreos?
* * * * *
A group of us will begin hacking out an alternative homepage design, and *
IFF* enough people like it, we can use it on Noisebridge.net.
(DON'T WORRY, the wiki **isn't** going anywhere.
...also, if it sucks, it'll just be good web-dev practice)
But *why*, you ask, should Noisebridge have a new homepage, when our
current one is perfectly fine?
• A wiki is pretty *intimidating* to look at if you are not already a
technically-oriented person.
• Noisebridge is awesome because it's *welcoming* to everyone, and our
homepage should welcome all hackers, from our computer scientists to our
architects, fashion, and food hackers!
• A clear and clean homepage will make it easier to *solicit donations* to
keep Noisebridge running! (where is the donate button??)
• A better homepage with a clear message can *attract non-members* who are
interested in learning more about Noisebridge.
This is the same time/place as the usual weekly Frontend Web Development
lab, so others present will also be working on other cool things too.
Cool beans, show up or shoot me a message at kenmhaggerty(a)gmail.com if
interested,
-Ken
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Hi everyone,
Please join us at *2PM this Saturday* (3/30) for the "Today I Learned"
workshop "*Intro to Bicycle Repair and Maintenance.*"
Come learn how your bike works and how to do basic bicycle maintenance and
repair. Feel free to bring your bike! Also, if you have them available,
bring *tools*, *materials*, *parts*, and other *useful supplies* as a drive
to fill our space with more bike essentials!
Location: Sudo Room: 2141 Broadway, entrance on 22nd St., take the elevator
upstairs
Date & Time: Saturday 3/30 at 2PM
Supplies: Yourself (optional: your bike!)
Cost: Free
*This workshop is part of the series “Today I Learned,” a series of free
workshops that take place every Saturday at 2PM at Sudo Room, a creative
community and hackerspace in downtown Oakland. Check out the full schedule
at sudoroom.org <http://sudoroom.org/wiki/Today_I_Learned> and please
forward widely.*
So from below I read $0.25/cm3 material cost
Based on rough properties i get these:
@ 1.25g/cm3*($40/1000g filament) = 5 cents/cm3 material cost
@ 1.25g/cm3*((180C-20C)*2J/gK*$.2/kWh*0.00027kWh/J) = 1.7 cents/cm3 heating energy cost...maybe we should try printing through a kill-a-watt to see how it adds up with motors, controller, PC too if we want the whole energy component of unit cost.
So the big question is really of labor, of who is going to do the manifold checking, slicing, setup, babysitting while it prints, and verification of the complete part, and how much is their time worth. Volunteers? Do we put that responsibility on the customer and offer accordingly lower prices? If we go with that model, how do we foolproof the interface for the machines? If there's interest, we could put together a proposal for crowdfunding a bank of 3D printers and staffing the operation. This isn't the first time it's been brought up so maybe it's worth taking a closer look.
For metal, it's $8/cm3 +$6 handling at shapeways (http://www.shapeways.com/materials/steel)...anyone interested in joining that 3D printed rocket engine design competition? :)
Mar 15, 2013 09:50:47 AM, drorex(a)gmail.com wrote:
Just a note, I recently "reverse engineered" their pricing uploaded several objects of a known size and put their prices into a spreadsheet), they dont actually tell you how they calculate it. It's:
>$6 + $0.25/cm^3, with a minimum price of $9.50 -- so it's definitely to your advantage to combine multiple parts into a single upload.
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For some reason it doesn't rank the printers by proximity -- there are actually many in SF and Oakland that don't appear on Page 1, so click through ... and maybe list the sudoroom printer to make a few bucks on the side?
Find a 3D printer near you.http://www.makexyz.com/
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I like that statement made last week
It's not interesting to be constantly promoting products from private companies
I mean you can be polite about it and appreciate the love but you are all right: what's the point of a creative space if the members ideas are getting hijacked to do free pr for companies with business plans ?
Why buy food from local take out? Isn't it better to make your own food?
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Romy Ilano
Founder of Snowyla
http://www.snowyla.com
romy(a)snowyla.com
Who seems to be having a somewhat similar problem in this bleak, bleak
month of March (there's a lot of interesting information about their scale
and reserves here):
https://www.noisebridge.net/pipermail/noisebridge-discuss/2013-March/035494…
You know what? I too am more than willing to bike around in the next couple
of days, collecting donations if you can't make tonight or any evening
later this week. I'm not working until Monday. Send me an email and I'll
figure something out. I love exercise anyway.
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Thomas Riley York (杨德民) 510.926.0510
http://www.linkedin.com/in/tommyyork
We have new equipment: a Wacom bamboo tablet
How do we store it so nobody steals it but everyone can use it?
I'd like to start some drawing sessions!
Is there a scanner at sudo room ?
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Romy Ilano
Founder of Snowyla
http://www.snowyla.com
romy(a)snowyla.com
=======>>NOISEBRIDGE BENEFIT=======
Noisebridge, like Sudo Room, is way too
close to the red for comfort. Join me and
your friends and your friends' friends this
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>>>>><<<SATURDAY>>><<<4-11p>>>>
>>>>>2169 Mission St (at 18th)<<<<<<<
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For at 5 years old,
it faces the potential
of
disappearing...,,.,...,...,,,.,.,.,..,,,..,.
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<<https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Art>>
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Worth reading.
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From: Danny O'Brien <danny(a)spesh.com>
Date: Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 1:40 AM
Subject: [Noisebridge-discuss] Panic! Noisebridge will close down in
July UNLESS YOU READ ALL OF THIS EMAIL (Part 1 of many)
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Cc: Noisebridge Discuss <noisebridge-discuss(a)lists.noisebridge.net>
Long email. Really really worth it. Go down to bit marked {}{}{}{} if
you don't want Noisebridge to die. There are links down there. Helpful,
useful, stop-Noisebridge-dying links.
So, Noisebridge The Great, San Francisco's most awesome
free-as-in-speech hackerspace, was packed tonight. There was the backend
webdev with Ruby kids, the Light Patterns with LED and Arduinos gang
were teaching up a storm, Gent Thaci from Kosovo (the world's second
youngest country!) was giving a talk explaining how free software
hackers are helping build a new nation, and how Noisebridge and other
hackerspaces were inspiring him and his friends.
Lots of people were plotting the fundraiser for this weekend, others
were mopping and sweeping, somebody is building a huge mysterious thing
out of wood, and oh my.
We had the weekly meeting, and two things happened. One is that we
consensed on making me the new treasurer.
Then the old outgoing treasurer revealed we only have $7000 left in the
bank.
Our monthly expenses are $5000.
THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN I AM MADE TREASURER.
I am about to POUNCE on our accounts to explore out what's going on in
intricate ultra-transparent detail (expect even longer bloody emails
soon), but I already have a pretty good idea. Our income wobbles up and
down because we rely a lot on random donations. Sometimes we pull in
more donations, and sometimes we pull in less. We've been pulling in
less for a few months now, and if that carries on, we're all done by
July.
As in, can't pay rent and have to shut down.
I am not too keen on being the treasurer that managed to kill
Noisebridge in less than three months, but I HAVE A PLAN.
1) Panic (see this mail)
2) Big fundraiser on Saturday! Come and party and donate! (I admit this
was already happening and planned before I became treasurer, but still.)
{{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{
SERIOUS BIT:
3) When I heard how screwed we were, I instantly ran across the space to
the Ruby class and gave a little speech asking them to give money. Some
of them signed up for monthly donations, many dropped some bucks in the
donation bucket. People love us, and want to give us money! We need to
ask people who love us for cash more often, and I will.
But for now sporadic donations are not enough. We need to increase
Noisebridge's regular, guaranteed monthly income so we don't dip so low.
I figure that out of the thousand or so people who use Noisebridge, love
Noisebridge, have a Noisebridge key they're waiting to use, or are just
happy something like Noisebridge exists somewhere in the world, young
and old, bazillionaire dotcommer or ingenious starving hacker, can pay
$10 or maybe more a month to keep Noisebridge stable and regular.
But it turns out it is actually really hard to pay us regularly. You can
use Paypal, but some people do not like Paypal, and it needs a credit
card. You can drop $10 in the box, but what hacker remembers that every
month? What hacker remembers to pay their *own* bills every month?
Also, what do you get for $10 a month? Sure, you get the world's
craziest hackerspace, not-even-run by anarchist lunatics who built
WikiLeaks and run one of the biggest Tor nodes and work for the EFF and
construct X-Ray Lasers from spare parts and inspire SciFi books and
start 3D printing companies and make kombucha and robots, and you get to
come to it 24/7 and we'll give you a key, and share our software and our
classrooms and teach you how to fix your laptop or use our woodshop or
share our library or use the darkroom or cook some food or have a free
shell account or throw a party or chase a robot or paint a picture or
make a dress. But you could do that without paying $10 anyway, right?
Well, maybe only until July, but yes, I agree you should get more.
{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}
So here is my deal as the All New Treasurer:
If you send me your email, RIGHT NOW, to treasurer(a)noisebridge.net , and
just pledge to me that you would like to pay $10 (or more) a month to
Noisebridge, I promise:
* I will sort out a way to get you to pay, even if it is sending one of
my minions to your house to pick up $10 worth of quarters from your
couch. Do not sweat about Paypal or stuff. We are going bust. We will
find a way to help you donate in the easiest way possible. For now,
I just need you to pledge.
* If 200 people splurge $10 a month, and we can collect the money from
them, we will
be stable enough to keep going past July (our current burn rate is $2Kish).
* If 300 or so people do this, we will slowly get back to our $15K reserve
without support from companies or the government or charitable
foundations (though I am hitting up other people of course). At that
point, I will advocate we start spending your money on a COMPLETELY
COOL RENOVATIONS OF NOISEBRIDGE. I will RAM THROUGH CONSENSUS that we
should spend any money that is more than three months reserve on
infrastructure improvements. Everyone loves me, so they will agree. If
they do not, we will just keep the money around for emergencies like
this. It will be like Kickstarter "stretch goal"! Only via a strangely
formatted text-only email!
* Everyone on my pledge list will be an Associate Member for the purposes
of strange Noisebridge politics. But I insist they will get more!
* As Treasurer, I solemnly declare that everyone on my list will be
heretofore known as SAVIOURS OF NOISEBRIDGE. That will make them
BETTER THAN ANYONE ELSE IN THE HISTORY OF NOISEBRIDGE. When somebody
asks you to move out of the way for a class, you can just say I AM A
SAVIOUR. When someone needs you to wash dishes, just say EXCUSE ME I
AM A SAVIOUR OF NOISEBRIDGE. Some people may have started Noisebridge
and be all hoighty-toighty. BUT YOU WILL HAVE STOPPED NOISEBRIDGE
STOPPING. And far more recently than them. YOU WILL BE THE BESTEST.
* If you are another hackerspace, and you communally pledge $10, we will
come and wash your dishes and try and fix your 3D printer.
That is my once-in-a-lifetime offer.
Send me mail at treasurer(a)noisebridge.net with how much you pledge, and
I will add you to the saviour list.
Go to this web form and add your name, I will add you to the saviour list:
http://nburl.net/pledge
Better still, go to this Paypal page, and sign up for $10 and I will
INSTANTLY MAKE YOU A SAVIOUR:
http://nburl.net/save
Donate to Noisebridge via Causes.com, and THE SAME THING WILL HAPPEN:
http://nburl.net/causes
As newbie naive hubristic impatient Treasurer I will set up Amazon
Payments, Square, Swipe, Dwolla and whatever the hell you want. I will
work out a way to get your payment from China or Brazil, Kosovo or New
York. But first I need you to pledge!
I will let everyone know how many people pledge, and keep mailing long
emails until we are saved.
We have three months to save Noisebridge.
Help me, only tenbucks monthly, you're my only hope.
http://nburl.net/pledge
d.
PS Did I say to come to our fundraiser party? This Saturday, 3PM- late.
Tutorials, music, raffles, art and more!
https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Art
PPS Pledge 10 bucks and I will also stop with the Star Wars puns.
http://nburl.net/pledge
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