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by mattsenate＠gmail.com

But not to be lost in the discussion, and, in fact, most critical, is the value in multitudes, in variance, and in solidarity, based upon empathy and mutual understanding. This in resistance to dominant patterns of division and subsequent conquest. Therefore I claim scrutiny over cultural and linguistic appropriation remains relevant and crucial to recognize in context of mutual respect rather than a laissez-faire attitude. What I mean is, let's try not to muddle it, but certainly cuddle it. // Matt ----- Reply message ----- From: "Anthony Di Franco" <di.franco(a)gmail.com> To: "GtwoG PublicOhOne" <g2g-public01(a)att.net> Cc: ",sudo-discuss" <sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org> Subject: [sudo-discuss] cuddling it Date: Fri, May 3, 2013 5:19 PM That is all quite interesting and adds a lot of texture to the discussion. And so is the question of the phrase "killer app" interesting. Consonant with an existential struggle among companies to achieve a position of oligarch in a crony capitalist market by killing off the competition once and for all and salting the earth they ate from with regulations and collusions so nothing will ever grow there again. Though, I don't know how to limit things to a subculture supposed to be our own since we are all part of and relate to many different cultures, without necessarily any universal common thread, and the idea of creating fiefdoms of discourse based on arbitrary dualistic in-group-out-group distinctions is unappealing anyway. On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 4:53 PM, GtwoG PublicOhOne <g2g-public01(a)att.net> wrote: Yo's- None the less, useful to explore. As I understand the history of this: The word "savage" is the English adaptation of the French word "sauvage" that originally meant "forest-dweller." At the time of early European settlement in North America, the practice in Europe was that only members of the nobility had the privilege of hunting in the forests: "commoners" (that would be us) were forbidden from doing so, often under penalty of death. The Europeans who settled in North America were highly surprised to see that no such restriction existed among the Native peoples: any and all tribe members hunted freely in the woods. The phrase "noble savage" originally referred to this: the idea that ordinary tribe members had what in Europe was a special privilege of the nobility, the freedom to hunt in the woods. The European settlers envied the First Nations peoples for having a privilege that they themselves did not have. The dynamic is quite real to this day, of city-dwellers' envy of rural peoples, and industrial-culture peoples' envy of hunter-gatherer peoples. It's a generalization of "the grass is always greener in the other person's yard." It works both ways: every axis of contrast between someone's own circumstances and someone else's circumstances can become grounds for comparisons that may risk turning invidious in some way. And once that process gets started, it opens the door to all manner of psychodynamic smog. So about "killing it": Seems to me that if we're concerned about (whatever issue), and we run across examples that may be entangled with racial/ethnic/religious/gender/etc. issues, the best thing to do is to stick to examples that come squarely from within our own subculture. And what's the most frequent example of embedded violent language in geek/nerd/maker/hacker culture? How'bout "killer app"? Let's start with that one. -G. (Back under the correct address now; thanks to all who helped fix that.) On 13-05-03-Fri 3:18 PM, Anthony Di Franco wrote: No worries. My response was a rhetorical answer. On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 3:16 PM, netdiva <netdiva(a)sonic.net> wrote: Dont worry, that was really just a rhetorical question. On 5/3/2013 3:11 PM, Anthony Di Franco wrote: Of course. On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 3:08 PM, netdiva <netdiva(a)sonic.net <mailto:netdiva@sonic.net>> wrote: Did you actually just say this in public? On 5/3/2013 3:04 PM, Anthony Di Franco wrote: Doesn't the civilized psyche secretly crave the things it sets itself apart from and gives up and projects on its image of the noble savage though? Your description seems more like meditatively flowing through it. On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 2:58 PM, netdiva <netdiva(a)sonic.net <mailto:netdiva@sonic.net> <mailto:netdiva@sonic.net <mailto:netdiva@sonic.net>>> wrote: Here I was thinking "killing it" was just another example of appropriation of african american vernacular by the mainstream. On 5/3/2013 2:46 PM, Leonid Kozhukh wrote: "killing it" is a recently popular term to denote excellence and immense progress. it has a violent, forceful connotation. friends in the circus community - through empirical evidence - have established a belief that operating at the highest levels of talent requires mindfulness, awareness, and calm. thus, a better term, which they have started to playfully use, is "cuddling it." thought sudoers would appreciate this. cuddling it, -- len founder, ligertail http://ligertail.com ___________________________________________________ sudo-discuss mailing list sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.____org <mailto:sudo-discuss@lists.__sudoroom.org <mailto:sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org>> http://lists.sudoroom.org/____listinfo/sudo-discuss <http://lists.sudoroom.org/__listinfo/sudo-discuss> <http://lists.sudoroom.org/__listinfo/sudo-discuss <http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss>> ___________________________________________________ sudo-discuss mailing list sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.____org <mailto:sudo-discuss@lists.__sudoroom.org <mailto:sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org>> http://lists.sudoroom.org/____listinfo/sudo-discuss <http://lists.sudoroom.org/__listinfo/sudo-discuss> <http://lists.sudoroom.org/__listinfo/sudo-discuss <http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss>> _________________________________________________ sudo-discuss mailing list sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.__org <mailto:sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org> http://lists.sudoroom.org/__listinfo/sudo-discuss <http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss> _______________________________________________ sudo-discuss mailing list sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss _______________________________________________ sudo-discuss mailing list sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss

12 years, 4 months

Hey writers!

by Vicky Knox

!sretirw yeH Are we alone in the universe? This is a shout out from someone who lives in your star sector requesting a star sector block party! In other words: If you are a writer and would like to use your passion-skill for the purposes of furthering the grasp of Sudo Room upon the innocent brains of unsuspecting learners, please give me/the list a holler. I'd like to get a sense of who's out there, and most importantly who's interested in banding together to do some siiick writing. We are not alone.

12 years, 4 months

Fwd: 5/2013 Statement, 2141 Broadway

by Matthew Senate

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Laurie Cooperman Rosen <Lscoop(a)comcast.net> Date: Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 4:53 PM Subject: 5/2013 Statement, 2141 Broadway To: exchequer(a)sudoroom.org Cc: eddan(a)eddan.com, mattsenate(a)gmail.com Hi All~ Attached please find the 5/2013 Invoice. Thank you! Laurie

12 years, 4 months

Drone help needed this Sunday for TacoConf!

by Max Ogden

Hey all - This sunday is http://tacoconf.com which is a bike tour of tacos in Oakland. I'm organizing the event and was hoping we could get the TacoCopter to come do a demo but they are sadly unavailable. I have a couple of Parrot AR Drones (http://nodecopter.com/) and was wondering if anyone wants to put together a makeshift TacoCopter with me tonight or tomorrow at Sudoroom. Here's what I need help with: - from 11AM - 12PM people will be showing up for TacoConf at Snow Park in downtown Oakland, since I need to go onwards with the conf I am hoping someone can transport the drones to and from sudoroom at those times. They are pretty small, but I can't carry em on my bike. - I need someone to pilot the drone(s) and 'deliver' a taco at Snow Park! I can instruct on how to do this - Also I was planning to have a bicycle based taco vendor come by the park and serve tacos but they had to cancel last minute. I'm looking for backups but I can always just bring some tacos specifically for delivery to the park ahead of time

12 years, 4 months

Bike Smut details

by Vicky Knox

A more illustrious announcement will come as the time nears, but in the mean time I leave your roving eyes and feasting curiosity to this: Bike Smut 6: Turning Trixxx Friday, May 17 Doors open: 8:22pm Show starts: 9.07pm $5-10 suggested donation Help me work on the wiki page<https://sudoroom.org/wiki/page/2013_Bike_Smut_screening> ! Come to the SR general meeting if you are interested in having a discussion on topics such as safety, show logistics, money/\yenom, fooooooood, etc. etc.

12 years, 4 months

Bio + Big Data event at my office this coming Thursday Evening

by Anthony Di Franco

I spoke a little about DIY Bio with the person who is organizing a bio entrepreneurship presentation / pitching / networking event next Thursday evening and she said people could join in the pitch session if desired or simply come to network. It will be big-data and French/Bay-investment/incubation focused so I am intrigued by the potential of a group of hackers showing up adhering to an unconventional-to-audience route to impact (open, decentralized development) and considering unconventional project ideas. Not just the potential for lulz, since the relevant tech media will be there. Let me / us know if you'd like to get a DIY Bio / sudo room group together to do a semi-formal brief introduction of the groups and the projects being worked on. Event details are here: http://www.meetup.com/French-US-Innovators-Entrepreneurs-in-Silicon-Valley/…

12 years, 4 months

sudoroom.org is back up!

by Yardena Cohen

If you get this message, it means everything's working again. ;) If you get this message twice, that's ok too...

12 years, 4 months

sudoroom.org is back up!

by Yardena Cohen

If you get this message, it means everything's working again. ;)

12 years, 4 months

Sudo lists are migrating!

by Yardena Cohen

We're moving sudoroom.org to a new server. There may be a brief outage for all mailing lists and other services while DNS propagates and we get things set up right. We'll send another email when things are working again. Thanks for your patience!

12 years, 4 months

what is this hacker space thing?

by Marina Kukso

in the home and garden section? http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/02/garden/the-rise-of-the-hacker-space.html also a mention of lolspace from praveen! - marina

12 years, 4 months

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