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Re: [sudo-discuss] sudo-discuss Digest, Vol 4, Issue 208

by Cyrus Farivar

FWIW—I'm in the process right now of writing up a short brief on the whole thing for Ars Technica, and am pointing out how lock picking has long been a part of hacker culture. If you have a statement, I can include/add it. -C -- Cyrus Farivar "suh-ROOS FAR-ih-var" Journalist and radio producer | cyrusfarivar.com (http://cyrusfarivar.com) Author, "The Internet of Elsewhere" | internetofelsewhere.com (http://internetofelsewhere.com) US: +1 510 394 5485 (m) | Twitter/Skype: cfarivar "… [View More]Being a good writer is 3% talent, 97% not being distracted by the Internet." cfarivar(a)cfarivar.org (mailto:cfarivar@cfarivar.org) On Thursday, February 28, 2013 at 12:31 PM, sudo-discuss-request(a)lists.sudoroom.org wrote: > Send sudo-discuss mailing list submissions to > sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org (mailto:sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org) > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > sudo-discuss-request(a)lists.sudoroom.org (mailto:sudo-discuss-request@lists.sudoroom.org) > > You can reach the person managing the list at > sudo-discuss-owner(a)lists.sudoroom.org (mailto:sudo-discuss-owner@lists.sudoroom.org) > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of sudo-discuss digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: FUD around Lockpicking class (Eddan Katz) > 2. Re: FUD around Lockpicking class (Eddan Katz) > 3. Re: FUD around Lockpicking class (Anon195714) > 4. Re: FUD around Lockpicking class (Eddan Katz) > 5. Re: FUD around Lockpicking class (Shawn Lesniak) > 6. Re: FUD around Lockpicking class (mark burdett) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2013 10:22:20 -0800 > From: Eddan Katz <eddan(a)clear.net (mailto:eddan@clear.net)> > To: sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org (mailto:sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org) > Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] FUD around Lockpicking class > Message-ID: <512FA05C.7070407(a)clear.net (mailto:512FA05C.7070407@clear.net)> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed" > > It would be worth our while for someone to draft a short statement that > can be posted on the Workshop Weekend website or as a Sudo Room blog > post. I'd be willing to help if someone did a first draft. So lame of > Jean Quan to not even look into it. > > In sum, I think there are two major elements to committing a crime - the > act itself and the intent. In order to have both, you need knowledge. > There's nothing in here about the socially positive reasons why you'd > want to teach that. Take the common experience everyone can relate to of > locking yourself out of your house, car, office, etc.. People need to > know how to pick locks most certainly in circumstances that are > authorized and often in the case of an emergency. We may want to clarify > that in regards to intent - we have the opposite motivation to teach > people these skills. It will go a long way to explicitly say that we by > no means condone the use of those skills for criminal purposes. > > We should post it and send it directly to the authors of the articles > before the end of the day, so that a further story can be written about > it. May also want to notify Susan Mernit @ Oakland Local to get a little > more fair and balanced reporting. > > > > On 2/27/13 11:20 PM, J.D. Zamfirescu wrote: > > more: > > > > http://www.insidebayarea.com/breaking-news/ci_22683660/oakland-mayor-jean-q… > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 10:15 PM, Matthew Senate <mattsenate(a)gmail.com (mailto:mattsenate@gmail.com) > > <mailto:mattsenate@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > It's awesome, free press! > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 9:40 PM, rusty lindgren > > <rustylindgren(a)gmail.com <mailto:rustylindgren@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > Oh dear gawd. This is possibly the most moronic piece of > > "journalism" I have ever seen. > > > > Are they unaware of the fact that you can go to a lock-picking > > school(actually it teaches you way more), and that this is > > just a cheaper version of that? (see: > > http://www.lock411.com/training.html). > > > > Also, virtually no crime in Oakland involves skilled > > lock-picking, because it's a waste of time. > > > > Don't worry though, you can train in deadly martial arts, go > > to the shooting range, and buy ninja swords just about > > anywhere in Oakland, but picking a Masterlock is "appalling". > > > > -Rusty > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 7:31 PM, Anca Mosoiu > > <anca(a)techliminal.com <mailto:anca@techliminal.com>> wrote: > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > Heads up. Looks like some folks aren't too happy that > > people are learning how to pick locks this weekend. > > > > http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/local/east_bay&id=9010047 > > > > Here is Oakland Local's response: > > > > http://m.oaklandlocal.com/article/oaklands-mayor-quan-apologizes-mentioning… > > > > Anca > > > > > > -- > > -=-=-=- > > Anca Mosoiu | Tech Liminal > > anca(a)techliminal.com <mailto:anca@techliminal.com> > > M: (510) 220-6660 <tel:%28510%29%20220-6660> > > http://techliminal.com | T: @techliminal | F: > > facebook.com/techliminal <http://facebook.com/techliminal> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > sudo-discuss mailing list > > sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org (mailto:sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org) > > <mailto:sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org> > > http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Cheers, > > > > Rusty Lindgren > > ** > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > sudo-discuss mailing list > > sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org (mailto:sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org) > > <mailto:sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org> > > http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > sudo-discuss mailing list > > sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org (mailto:sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org) > > <mailto:sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org> > > http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > sudo-discuss mailing list > > sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org (mailto:sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org) > > http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss > > > > > [View Less]

12 years, 4 months

Sudo Room Signage

by Eddan Katz

We should put up signage for Sudo Room on the Broadway side of the building. We've already asked George about whether it would be OK to put it on the arched awning above the 2141 Broadway door and have the go ahead. Apparently, if we use the same white on blue format, there are no additional costs. Other colored designs would require Sudo room being registered with the city & have to take part in paying for insurance for the building (albeit proportional). Does anyone have the tools … [View More]

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Re: [sudo-discuss] sudo-discuss Digest, Vol 4, Issue 206

by Cyrus Farivar

FWIW, the Trib's reporter's email is: martz(a)bayareanewsgroup.com And no, I don't know him. :-) -C -- Cyrus Farivar "suh-ROOS FAR-ih-var" Journalist and radio producer | cyrusfarivar.com (http://cyrusfarivar.com) Author, "The Internet of Elsewhere" | internetofelsewhere.com (http://internetofelsewhere.com) US: +1 510 394 5485 (m) | Twitter/Skype: cfarivar "Being a good writer is 3% talent, 97% not being distracted by the Internet." cfarivar(a)cfarivar.org (mailto:cfarivar@cfarivar.org) … [View More] On Thursday, February 28, 2013 at 9:40 AM, sudo-discuss-request(a)lists.sudoroom.org wrote: > Send sudo-discuss mailing list submissions to > sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org (mailto:sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org) > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > sudo-discuss-request(a)lists.sudoroom.org (mailto:sudo-discuss-request@lists.sudoroom.org) > > You can reach the person managing the list at > sudo-discuss-owner(a)lists.sudoroom.org (mailto:sudo-discuss-owner@lists.sudoroom.org) > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of sudo-discuss digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: FUD around Lockpicking class (J.D. Zamfirescu) > 2. Re: FUD around Lockpicking class (Anthony Di Franco) > 3. Re: FUD around Lockpicking class (Anon195714) > 4. Re: FUD around Lockpicking class (Shawn Lesniak) > 5. Re: FUD around Lockpicking class (Anon195714) > 6. Membership dues - payment options! (Tommy York) > 7. Sudo Room Signage (Eddan Katz) > 8. Re: FUD around Lockpicking class (rusty lindgren) > 9. Re: FUD around Lockpicking class (rusty lindgren) > 10. Re: FUD around Lockpicking class (hep) > 11. Re: FUD around Lockpicking class (Anon195714) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 23:31:37 -0800 > From: "J.D. Zamfirescu" <zamfire(a)gmail.com (mailto:zamfire@gmail.com)> > To: Tommy York <tommy.york(a)gmail.com (mailto:tommy.york@gmail.com)> > Cc: sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org (mailto:sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org)> > Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] FUD around Lockpicking class > Message-ID: > <CAO5ydeEuoT1g2+9orFpy+MN-j9smLfDBeSEQysW976AtFCDBCg(a)mail.gmail.com (mailto:CAO5ydeEuoT1g2+9orFpy+MN-j9smLfDBeSEQysW976AtFCDBCg@mail.gmail.com)> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I called the OPD today to get stats on how many break-ins involve picked > locks. The woman I spoke with was entirely unhelpful, saying something > along the lines of "all break-in methods are comparably common". > > Google searches suggest that ~5-10% of burglaries nationally involve picked > locks. > > > > > On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 11:26 PM, Tommy York <tommy.york(a)gmail.com (mailto:tommy.york@gmail.com)> wrote: > > > "OAKLAND -- One skill that appears all too common in Oakland these days > > is the ability to pick a lock. Burglaries jumped more than 40 percent last > > year, and not all of them involved window smashes." > > > > This is a horrific excuse for journalism. Not all burglaries involved > > window smashes? Oh really? And in that case, how many involved skilled lock > > picking? > > > > Mencken would be angry. > > > > - tommy > > ----------------- > > Thomas Riley York (???) 510.926.0510 > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/tommyyork > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 11:20 PM, J.D. Zamfirescu <zamfire(a)gmail.com (mailto:zamfire@gmail.com)>wrote: > > > > > more: > > > > > > > > > http://www.insidebayarea.com/breaking-news/ci_22683660/oakland-mayor-jean-q… > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 10:15 PM, Matthew Senate <mattsenate(a)gmail.com (mailto:mattsenate@gmail.com)>wrote: > > > > > > > It's awesome, free press! > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 9:40 PM, rusty lindgren <rustylindgren(a)gmail.com (mailto:rustylindgren@gmail.com) > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh dear gawd. This is possibly the most moronic piece of "journalism" > > > > > I have ever seen. > > > > > > > > > > Are they unaware of the fact that you can go to a lock-picking > > > > > school(actually it teaches you way more), and that this is just a cheaper > > > > > version of that? (see: http://www.lock411.com/training.html). > > > > > > > > > > Also, virtually no crime in Oakland involves skilled lock-picking, > > > > > because it's a waste of time. > > > > > > > > > > Don't worry though, you can train in deadly martial arts, go to the > > > > > shooting range, and buy ninja swords just about anywhere in Oakland, but > > > > > picking a Masterlock is "appalling". > > > > > > > > > > -Rusty > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 7:31 PM, Anca Mosoiu <anca(a)techliminal.com (mailto:anca@techliminal.com)>wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > > > > > > > Heads up. Looks like some folks aren't too happy that people are > > > > > > learning how to pick locks this weekend. > > > > > > > > > > > > http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/local/east_bay&id=9010047 > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is Oakland Local's response: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://m.oaklandlocal.com/article/oaklands-mayor-quan-apologizes-mentioning… > > > > > > > > > > > > Anca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > -=-=-=- > > > > > > Anca Mosoiu | Tech Liminal > > > > > > anca(a)techliminal.com (mailto:anca@techliminal.com) > > > > > > M: (510) 220-6660 > > > > > > http://techliminal.com | T: @techliminal | F: facebook.com/techliminal (http://facebook.com/techliminal) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > sudo-discuss mailing list > > > > > > sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org (mailto:sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org) > > > > > > http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > > > Rusty Lindgren > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > sudo-discuss mailing list > > > > > sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org (mailto:sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org) > > > > > http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > sudo-discuss mailing list > > > > sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org (mailto:sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org) > > > > http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > sudo-discuss mailing list > > > sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org (mailto:sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org) > > > http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss > > > > > > > > > [View Less]

12 years, 4 months

Membership dues - payment options!

by Tommy York

Hey everyone, Please pay membership dues when you get a chance. I updated the WePay campaign page, so you can again donate money / pay membership dues (with a new total in the percentage widget covering February actual and projected March), and can collect checks whenever you see me. I live two blocks away, so I'm more than happy to just run over if I'm not getting anything done. At the moment, I'm trying to collect all the payment information, so I can develop a member list for February. … [View More]

12 years, 4 months

Fwd: 3/2013 Statement, 2141 Broadway

by Matthew Senate

apologies, attachment should be included, also in HTML: Statement The Sudo Room (2141art) 2141 Broadway, Oakland CA 94612 Date Description Charges Payments Balance Balance Forward 0.00 03/01/13 Rent (03/2013) 1,500.00 1,500.00 03/01/13 PG&E (03/2013) 168.34 1,668.34 Current 30 Days 60 Days 90 Days Amount Due 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 1,668.34 Page 1/1/97 12:00 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Laurie Cooperman Rosen <Lscoop(a)comcast.net> Date: … [View More]

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FUD around Lockpicking class

by Anca Mosoiu

Hi everyone, Heads up. Looks like some folks aren't too happy that people are learning how to pick locks this weekend. http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/local/east_bay&id=9010047 Here is Oakland Local's response: http://m.oaklandlocal.com/article/oaklands-mayor-quan-apologizes-mentioning… Anca -- -=-=-=- Anca Mosoiu | Tech Liminal anca(a)techliminal.com M: (510) 220-6660 http://techliminal.com | T: @techliminal | F: facebook.com/techliminal

12 years, 4 months

Fwd: [Longfellow Community Association & Friends] Mayor Quan is getting some serious flak for...

by Marina Kukso

workshop weekend scandal! see the offending newsletter here: http://jeanquan.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/State-of-City-Wednesday-Firs… please enjoy a wide variety of workshop weekend events this weekend at sudo room and tech liminal: http://workshopweekend.net/ - marina PS - i am only a member of the longfellow community association list for purely oakland wiki research reasons - not a longfellow myself. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Leslie Cleaver Wood <notification+… [View More]

12 years, 4 months

Re: [sudo-discuss] [Artmurmur] Art Murmur membership

by Tracy Jacobs

Thanks Eddan, I'm glad you're taking action on this. I'm still finishing up the wiring on my megavirus, this Friday and Saturday is Barbot 2013 in San Francisco, so I will be busy until Sunday. Come to Barbot if you're able, it's really fun! http://events.sfgate.com/san_francisco_ca/events/show/305281805-barbot-2013 On Feb 27, 2013, at 2:17 PM, Eddan <eddan(a)clear.net> wrote: > Since the subject of Sudo Room membership in the official Art Murmur program has come up several … [View More]times - let me point people to where the conversation was left off on the Sudo Room mailing list. > Though it is not necessary and perhaps a distraction to discuss for planning this Friday, the fact that it's come up every time gives me the sense that people have strong opinions about it. > > http://lists.hackerspaces.org/pipermail/sudoroom/2012-July/000622.html > > Tracy et al. Sudo Artists - > > Did we end up doing anything further about being members of Art Murmur after your message below? Do Sudo artists think it's worth being officially connected? According to the Art Murmur membership guidelines (http://oaklandartmurmur.org/images/stories/docs/oam-membership-guidelines-a…), galleries or mixed-use spaces participating in First Fridays receive the following benefits: > > * Representation on the Art Murmur map and postcard, which will be printed as needed. > * Representation on the Art Murmur website, with ability to update your events. > * Access to post on the Oakland Art Murmur Facebook page. > * Opportunity to participate in Saturday Stroll, which is marketed with its own postcard, ad campaign, program listings, and press campaign. > * Opportunity to participate in the annual Murmurama event, which takes place on the third Saturday in May. > * Opportunity to lead a guided tour of OAM galleries, which is a great way to bring new people to your venue. > * Sticker to identify you as an Oakland Art Murmur member, and temporary signs that wrap around poles, to install when you are open or on First Friday. > * Networking and press opportunities as they arise. > > As Tracy described in her earlier email below, the only real obstacle to our joining is the cost - $100 one time application fee and then $175/year membership. > > If we do join (and probably even if we don't), it seems like a good idea to create some way of regularly organizing events around Art Murmur. > There was an ad hoc list of a few people who expressed interest in helping out, but there wasn't much of a coordinated effort. Tracy's set-up in the box office was awesome last month, but we're going to need > more reliable participation for this to work. While an ad hoc group makes sense for particular projects, I think some kind of stable, but dynamic group of Sudo folk, even if just a few people, could really help round up participation for displaying the art people make anyhow as well as other coordination as required. I propose we form something like a Dynamic Association for Displayed Art (DADA) that rotates active contributors each month based on the particular installations and projects are going on. Documenting how we go about it each month on the Sudo Wiki would also be really helpful for coordinating future events more efficiently. > > Given the Ferro Fluids phenomena transpiring in Sudo Room and now the arrival of a giant papier-maché cruise-ship, we should get some Sudo folks on a cc:ed list to communicate about the Aug. 3 Art Murmur. This group can solicit people's art, make sure projectors, etc. are set up, make sure there are cups to accompany the wine, make sure teenagers don't exceed their turn playing Frogger, and other logistics evidently requiring organization. > > I want to put together a 'happening' connected to the box office maximum occupancy experiment on Aug. 3, if anyone else wants to help out with > that. And with the Ghostbusters showing at the Paramount - it would also be great to get some help with the 8.5 ft. inflatable Stay Puft Marshmallow Men (which ended up taking more than three hours to hang from the roof of 2135 Broadway, even with the landlord George's assistance.) > > So since the August First Friday Art Murmur is now coming upon us in a week and a half and with the possibility of also doing something for the Saturday Stroll, we should find out who's interested in being in the DADA committee for August. Following up on yesterday's meeting minutes > about Art Murmur (https://pad.riseup.net/p/sudoroom), please let Tracy (kinetical at comcast.net) and/or me know and we'll start off the planning discussion. > > -Eddan > [7/2012 DADA collaborator] > > > On 6/23/12 5:37 PM, Tracy Jacobs wrote: > > Welcome Hilary! > > > > So about the Art Murmur membership, I don't see anything on here that > > would exclude us, it might require some small time committments from > > people to have the "gallery" open. In theory the gallery could just > > be the box office, with a rotating show. > > > > http://oaklandartmurmur.org/get-involved/become-a-member-gallery > > > > The other thing though is there is a fee, it's pretty cheap for an > > organization, but too much for me to pay alone. $100 one time > > application fee and then 175 a year membership. Perhaps we can > > consider this at a future business meeting. > > > > I have yet to hear from any of you about your plans for the July 6th > > Art Murmur? Is anybody working today ? > > > > Tracy > _______________________________________________ > Artmurmur mailing list > Artmurmur(a)lists.sudoroom.org > http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/artmurmur [View Less]

12 years, 4 months

Fwd: 3/2013 Statement, 2141 Broadway

by mattsenate＠gmail.com

// Matt ----- Forwarded message ----- From: "Laurie Cooperman Rosen" <Lscoop(a)comcast.net> To: <exchequer(a)sudoroom.org> Cc: <eddan(a)eddan.com>, <mattsenate(a)gmail.com> Subject: 3/2013 Statement, 2141 Broadway Date: Wed, Feb 27, 2013 4:04 PM Hi All- Attached please find The Sudo Room invoice for March. Thank you! Laurie

12 years, 4 months

Meeting tonight - Please add to agenda

by Marina Kukso

Hi everyone, Meeting this evening at 7PM. Please add to the agenda here: https://pad.riseup.net/p/sudoroom Marina

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