3 Feb
2015
3 Feb
'15
3:35 p.m.
I like the phrase space-invaded because it just made me think of Space
Invaders which made me think of making a Safe Space top-down shooter video
game, which made me smile.
On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 3:27 PM, Jenny Ryan <tunabananas(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Oh, *that* dude. So sorry you were space-invaded, Ryan
:(
I remember being in the mezzanine when Perry was in the ballroom, reading
Sarah's report about the incident with him peeking into the Disco Room,
then overheard him say to someone on the phone about being asked to stop,
"Dude, I was just looking at this beautiful naked dancer, I mean wow" and
turning to Matt or Marc, can't recall, and fuming that I'd love to go kick
that creep out of the space.
Wish I had then. Fully in support of his ban but don't personally have the
bandwidth to steward a mediation process. I think he might know Gabby from
Rise Above, or seemed to be helping / around that area some. CC'ing her to
see if she has his contact info.
/jnny
On 02/03/2015 02:49 PM, David Keenan wrote:
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Hi all,
Yes, I agree, this person should persona non grata pending mediation.
Perry is an olderish white guy musician who comes around sometimes, much
of
the time seriously drunk it would appear. Being
drunk seems to clearly
impair his judgement and his actions become invasive to others in the
ways
Ryan describes.
My history with him is only the following. I first talked to him a while
ago asking him to turn down his electric guitar in the ballroom while a
large meeting was taking place in La Commune - he complied. I noticed he
really did reek of alcohol. I asked if he volunteered with any
collective,
he said FNB - but he didn't know where the
kitchen was, or that there was
even a basement, which rang alarm bells for me (ie, it was probably a
fib.)
I later followed up with Helen and Joe and they
said they had never heard
of him, and that sometimes people 'say' theyre in FNB but aren't really..
Anyhow, Perry left the ballroom and wandered upstairs by the kitchen
above
La Commune, now playing the mandolin -
'quietly', yes - but alas still
distracting to those in the large meeting below, and I again asked if he
could play music in the basement or another room in the building until
the
meeting as finished - he complied, but seemed
pretty out of it and not
understanding why (drunk).
I later found out that while upstairs he was 'peeking' into the Disco
Room
on a dance rehearsal that made those inside feel
uncomfortable and Sarah
sent an email out to that effect. Next time I saw him, I re-introduced
myself, took him up to the dance room and let him know that they require
privacy and to not do that. He said he had something of one the dancers
inside and was trying to return it to her.. I did not verify whether this
was true or not, but since the dancers did not seem to know him, it seems
doubtful.
Then, one day after that, he was walking into the building and I
admittedly
gave him a bit of a 'side-eye' on the way
in because I wasn't sure if he
was wasted or what. He himself came up to me and said, "why'd you give me
that look?", and I said, it appears you come into the building drunk, and
we can't have drunk people in here - you aren't known to our community,
and
I don't know what you will do in that state.
I said if you want to get
drunk, try not to come here. To his credit he admitted being drunk the
aforementioned day, agreed it was unacceptable, and said that wasn't
going
to happen again.
But, since it has happened again, to my mind that is grounds to ban him
pending mediation that he will have to arrange.
Does anyone know him, or have his email?
Best,
David
On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 2:20 PM, Ryan <yandoryn(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> fwding this to sudo and cdc as well
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Ryan <yandoryn(a)gmail.com>
> Date: Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 1:59 PM
> Subject: Proposed Safe Space Ban: Perry
> To: "discuss(a)lists.omnicommons.org"
<discuss(a)lists.omnicommons.org>rg>,
> David Keenan <dkeenan44(a)gmail.com>
>
>
> Perry, who as far as I know is not affiliated with any collective in
the
> space, was at the Omni until late last
night. He was heavily
inebriated and
> reeked of alcohol.
>
> In attempting to talk with me, he got incredibly touchy-feely and
further
> invaded my space, getting so close that I
could feel his breath on my
skin.
> I informed him loudly that touch needs to be
consensual in the space
and
> that he should ask me before touching me. I
told him that the safe
space
> policy is next to the front door and that he
should read it. I managed
to
> get away from him, but he followed me
outside.
>
> Ribre (sp?) was outside with her guitar and he sat down next to her,
> invaded her space, and tried to strike up a seemingly very
uncomfortable
> conversation. She told him that whatever he
was talking about was
something
> that he'd have to deal with on his own,
not with her, and that she
cannot
> deal with drunk men, and that they make her
unsafe. Instead of ceasing
the
> conversation, he got closer and tried to
tell her that they needed to
> continue it.
>
> He continued in this vein for a while longer, until I loudly informed
him
> that the conversation was not consensual and
he needed to stop. He
started
> to argue with me, however RAYC was able to
defuse Perry and lead him
away
> from the interaction.
>
> I spoke to Kwe and Juul before they left, to make sure I had backup if
I
> needed to ask Perry to leave the building.
Eventually, I was the only
> member left in the building, so I asked RAYC to shut down the building
for
> me, and that I was only comfortable vouching
for him and Nicholas.
RAYC got
> Perry to leave.
>
> I spoke with David Keenan this morning, explaining the situation, and
DK
> said that he has spoken to Perry in the past
about his behaviour,
> specifically his behaviour when under the influence of alcohol. I will
let
> DK speak more to that.
>
> Is anyone aware of a collective that Perry is involved with? In my
> conversation with DK, he said that when he spoke to Perry he said he
was
> with FNB, but was probably lying, as he
didn't even know where the
kitchen
was.
Regardless, I ask that Perry be banned from the Omni, pending
mediation, as his actions clearly violate our safe space policy and he
refused to take action to alter his behaviour.
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