[sudo-discuss] Re: why we should not consider donating the building to Peoples Programs

Edwin I wish you wouldn't write quite this way to this list, even though I agree with your point in principle. I know I may have set a bad example in some of my messages to Yar but the wording and theme of your message really doesn't seem appropriate. Please help keep this list non-gross. Also Yar has already acknowledged in another email that PP is not a good fit for us (literally an employee of PressTV) -jake On Wed, Dec 13, 2023, 11:38 Edwinsaurus &lt;plutosaurus(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: > Hey Yar, I don't think "passing the baton to them (people's programs) is > a wise idea. Getting a good vibe when looking into someone's eyes at an > event may work sometimes when deciding if we should sleep with them, but > there is a lot more at stake here and any future partners need to be > thoroughly vetted. Agree? Keep looking. Thanks. > > On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 10:49 PM Yardena Cohen via sudo-discuss < > sudo-discuss(a)sudoroom.org&gt; wrote: > >> > This was an explicit death wish and nonconsensual photography >> > Why would you expect the victim to come forward for mediation? >> >> She already has, and we are working to resolve this conflict. There is >> no death wish. The main issues here are fears and tensions among local >> black, iranian and palestinian communities, and I believe justice can be >> arrived at with patience and understanding. >> >> > they will put it toward a charitable purpose, such as low-income >> housing >> >> So you'd rather see the building knocked down, than share it with PP? >> Are we that petty?? >> >> PP made a great proposal with significant overtures and concessions to >> us. It's legally very open-ended. This is an opportunity for Jesse to write >> a counter-proposal/MOU with fine print giving protections & guarantees to >> us and the building, while still honoring everything they explicitly asked >> for. >> >> I strongly disagree with some of PP's politics, but unlike CLP, these >> are honest people grounded in community with long-standing local ties. They >> live here, use their real names, don't hide behind anonymous protonmails or >> sock puppets. Unlike CLP, they have a genuine desire to use restorative >> justice to resolve petty disputes, rather than just use politics as an >> excuse to treat people like shit. Unlike CLP, our differences can be >> resolved with time and good faith. >> >> CLP are assholes, and CLP definitely wanted to bring in PP for >> ideological reasons. PP also took the CLP lies at face value, boosted them, >> and came in hot on us. This was bad judgement, but doesn't mean conspiracy. >> Frankly I don't blame them for assuming their comrades' post was true, and >> if it was, then we'd have deserved it. >> >> Of all the options I've seen so far, PP is by far the best. They're not >> perfect, but nobody is. When I look into folks' eyes at their People's >> Breakfast program, I see a large community of wonderful radical folks who >> are ready to do hard work and take ownership of something big. I see us 10 >> years ago. I would feel good passing the baton to them. >> _______________________________________________ >> sudo-discuss mailing list -- sudo-discuss(a)sudoroom.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to sudo-discuss-leave(a)sudoroom.org >> More options at >> https://sudoroom.org/lists/postorius/lists/sudo-discuss.sudoroom.org/ >> >