[sudo-discuss] noisebridge throwing out Scanning Electron Microscope etc

Hi guys,  Instead of taking the Noisebridge SEM, I have a great idea... Let's get another SEM!  One of the problems with the Noisebridge SEM is that the community of SEM experts is too small. So let's enlarge that community by getting another.  If you do get the Noisebridge SEM, NB will be out of a significant resource and its repair and operation are likely to fall on the same exact shoulders. You will also encounter ALL of the same problems that NB has encountered and will need to go to extreme effort to build infrastructure around the microscope (which we haven't completed).  I have a lead on another SEM that would be free. They aren't as rare as you might think.  In my previous e-mail, which may not have been posted to the sudo room list yet (I'm not a list member), I didn't understand that there was a plan afoot to take the NB SEM (which technically does not belong to NB anyway, it's on loan). I thought that someone named Dr. X was going to donate another SEM to sudo room. I generally disapprove of dismantling Noisebridge resources.  Chris Sent from my iPhone On Jun 11, 2013, at 15:25, Ryan Bethencourt <ryan.bethencourt(a)gmail.com> wrote: Great thanks Jake, we're working on the space thing for CCL and hoping to have one in the nearish term... it's kind of like the early days of Sudo Room when we talked on and on about getting a space... until we finally got one :) On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 3:16 PM, Jake <jake(a)spaz.org> wrote: it is currently in a relatively safe place, especially considering that moving it is the most dangerous thing to it.  So it should stay where it is until a new place is chosen for it. Since Sudoroom doesn't have enough room for it and CCL has NO room yet, moving it will have to wait. However, i know of a pickup truck that can be used to move it if and when the time comes. -jake On Tue, 11 Jun 2013, Ryan Bethencourt wrote: Thanks Jake, It looks like we may have to rent a uhaul truck to move it as it looks large? Sounds like Ben has a place for us to store it and we have another Counter Culture labs co-founder/member (Shanee) who knows how to use it and said she could teach us :) On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 3:10 PM, Benjamin Lack <benlack(a)gmail.com> wrote:       It looks like it would be fine sitting in a garage for a few months, if so, I have space. Ben On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 2:46 PM, Patrik D'haeseleer <patrikd(a)gmail.com> wrote:       That would be excellent! Here's the user manual with all the specs: https://www.noisebridge.net/images/c/c7/ISI_Mini-TV_SEM_Manual-Troubleshoot… It's a desktop machine, so doesn't necessarily take up any more space than some bio equipment. Wonder how easy it would be to DIY a gold sputterer... Patrik On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 1:15 PM, Jake <jake(a)spaz.org> wrote:       I'm sure that Dr. X would be very pleased if it went to Counter Culture Labs.  He just wants it to be understood and appreciated, rather than sitting       neglected.  CCL should hurry up and buy the church building before the price goes up on it, and I can help transport it.       It is basically an equipment rack and a cart of accessories, so it doesn't take up a ton of room.  But it's good to be able to set the microscope and       vacuum pump on different structures so that the vibration of the pump doesn't shake the scope.  Also, to take higher resolution pictures it will be       necessary to construct an analog data importer but that will likely just be a computer with a slightly modified sound card and some software.       keep in mind that to view organic (nonmetallic) things you will need a gold sputterer.       -jake       On Tue, 11 Jun 2013, Ryan Bethencourt wrote:             Hi Jake,             I'd be very happy to help transport the scanning electron microscope and if             it can't fit into Sudo Room, I'd also love to float the idea of potentially             housing it at Counter Culture Labs (the Sudo room DIY Bio offshoot) when we             eventually open up. Any thoughts?             How big is the SEM (I know some of them can be huge which might prohibit             location)?             All the best,             Ryan             Best,             Ryan             On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 6:33 PM, Jake <jake(a)spaz.org> wrote:                   sudoroom is being offered a scanning electron microscope (by Dr.                   X).                   it comes with all the stuff and actually works, but it requires                   a bit of knowledge to operate it.  unfortunately Mr. X is not                   available to train us how to operate it, however Chris Murphy                   may be available and knows how it works.                   It would take up about 30 square feet of space including the                   place where the operators sit or stand.  It is not computerized                   like the one at Pumping Station One, it is an analog machine.                    Pictures can be taken at high resolution by long-exposure photo                   of the CRT on the front of the machine, or we can build an                   analog data importer to reconstruct images at much higher                   resolution if we desire.                   The cash price of this SEM is $10 in gas and tolls, I will                   provide the vehicle and movement.  The rest of the price of the                   machine in blood and sacrifice is in the time and energy to                   learn its intricicies and idiosynchracies while learning about                   vacuum pumps and vacuum oil, and how not to let vacuum oil                   contaminate your vacuum and get all over your filament.                   https://noisebridge.net/wiki/SEM                   ironically, one of the reasons it doesn't work as well at                   noisebridge is because the whole place shakes when the city                   buses ride by.  and sudoroom is apparently directly over the                   bart tunnel so i wonder how different it will be.                   -jake                   _______________________________________________                   sudo-discuss mailing list                   sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org                   http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss             --             Ryan Bethencourt             Tel: (415) 825 2705             ryan.bethencourt(a)gmail.com             www.bamh1.com             www.linkedin.com/in/bethencourt             www.logos-press.com/books/biotechnology_business_development.php _______________________________________________ sudo-discuss mailing list sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Counter Culture Labs" group. 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