Yo Andrew, you're OK and I know you're not a homophobe. Your statements
didn't come across as homophobic _at all_. Mildly sarcastic yes, homophobic no.
Sarcasm is good, no apologies needed.
I've seen some pretty obnoxo bits come across these tubes, including nasty
ad-hominems, assertions of superiority, category put-downs, and "I refuse to hear
you" stuff. Most of that seems to me to be psychological defensiveness, heated-up by
dynamics such as you pointed out in your article excerpt yesterday, plus the usual
outcomes of a hybridized communications medium that's part conversation, part
broadcast, delayed rather than realtime, and minus all nonverbal cues.
Generally the sting wears off after a few days and then it's over & done with.
Contrast to: imagine if every conversation you ever had at a pub, was preserved for
posterity and searchable under your name. (The idea that this stuff needs to be indexed
& searchable is more than a little narcissistic: to quote someone I was hanging out
with last night, are we really so important?)
Knowing the person at the other end of the wire, and being able to translate their
writing into their spoken voice, makes many of those issues disappear. In my mind's
ear I hear you telling sheep jokes. They're not bad, for sheep jokes;-)
OK, so who's going to launch a Kickstarter to build another giant gay sheep?
Or how'bout a couple of giant lesbian sheep? With audio chips & speakers, so
they can say to each other, "Baaa-aaa-aaa, I love ewe!" and "Baa-aa-aaa, I
love ewe too!"
-G.
On 13-05-30-Thu 9:22 PM, Andrew wrote:
I realize that my statements may have come of as
homophobic. I apollogize and would be more that happy to talk about it in person or
otherwise directly with anyone who wants to.
On May 30, 2013 7:55 PM, "GtwoG PublicOhOne" <g2g-public01(a)att.net>
wrote:
>
> I'm gay & Andrew's cool with me & has no issues with gay folks
generally. Just in case anyone thinks otherwise (incoming drama-missile intercept
launched).
>
> OK, so: what to do about that sheep:
>
> Start another kickstarter to build another gay sheep, so there'll be two of them
and they can go out on dates together.
>
> -G.
>
>
>
>
> On 13-05-30-Thu 2:17 PM, Matthew Meier wrote:
>> As "a gay" I think everything needs more queering :D
>>
>> -Wolfy
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 2:11 PM, Andrew <andrew(a)roshambomedia.com> wrote:
>>> This project just made $200 in the last hour. Someone at Sudo Room really
wants the Big-Ass Amazingly Awesome Homosexual Sheep to have laser eyes!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 2:04 PM, Jehan Tremback
<jehan.tremback(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> NO. I hate sudo room >:-|
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 1:57 PM, Max B <maxb.personal(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
>>>>> Hahaha yeah on second thought I'm not
actually curious why you would say that. I'm happy to let it be a hole in
my knowledge of the world.
>>>>>
>>>>> We can (probably?) all agree that a sudoroom crowdfunding project
would be more admirable than a lot of others on kickstarter?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu 30 May 2013 01:52:50 PM PDT, Jehan Tremback wrote:
>>>>>> Drama incoming...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Max B
<maxb.personal(a)gmail.com
>>>>>> <mailto:maxb.personal@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Also Burning Man does not need queering."...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> what makes you say that?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu 30 May 2013 01:27:18 PM PDT, Andrew wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, I think a giant sheep that you enter through the ass
is
>>>>>> way less
>>>>>> admirable than
making a crowd funded movie. I think crowd funded
>>>>>> movies are extremely important, given what traditional
funding has
>>>>>> done to the creativity of film.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also Burning Man does not need queering.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 12:49 PM, Max B
>>>>>> <maxb.personal(a)gmail.com
<mailto:maxb.personal@gmail.com>
>>>>>> <mailto:maxb.personal@gmail.__com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <mailto:maxb.personal@gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Eh I think that queering burningman is a much more
>>>>>> admirable goal
>>>>>> than, say, Zach Braff being able to produce his
little pet
>>>>>> project
>>>>>> (with $3mil...)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
http://www.kickstarter.com/____projects/1869987317/wish-i-____was-here-1
>>>>>>
<http://www.kickstarter.com/__projects/1869987317/wish-i-__was-here-1>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
<http://www.kickstarter.com/__projects/1869987317/wish-i-__was-here-1
>>>>>>
<http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1869987317/wish-i-was-here-1>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu 30 May 2013 12:38:50 PM PDT, Andrew wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> These people got over $10,000 to build a giant
gay
>>>>>> sheep for
>>>>>> Burning Man
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
http://www.kickstarter.com/____projects/391007482/baaahs-big-____ass-amazin…
>>>>>>
<http://www.kickstarter.com/__projects/391007482/baaahs-big-__ass-amazingly-awesome-__homosexual-sheep>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
<http://www.kickstarter.com/__projects/391007482/baaahs-big-__ass-amazingly-awesome-__homosexual-sheep
>>>>>>
<http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/391007482/baaahs-big-ass-amazingly-awesome-homosexual-sheep>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, dream
big Sudoers, if they can do it so can you...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> -------
>>>>>> Andrew Lowe
>>>>>> Cell: 831-332-2507 <tel:831-332-2507>
>>>>>> <tel:831-332-2507 <tel:831-332-2507>>
>>>>>>
http://roshambomedia.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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