This is not a sudo room vs Timon conflict - it's a George vs. Timon conflict. Having been in the space last night, I can report that Matt's call to George was simply a followup to Friday's conversation, in which George had told Matt that Timon had been kicked out of the building and that he couldn't be in the sudo space. Matt told Timon as much, and that his being in the space could jeapordize our lease, and Timon peaceably agreed to stay out of sudo room. Matt followed up with George to say that while we could border the boundaries of sudo room proper, and that Timon had agreed to stay out of sudo room, we couldn't control who had access to the common space (and that Timon was currently in the common space - but he didn't say anything about him bothering anyone). At that point, George asked Matt to call the police. Matt refused, saying this was an issue between George and Timon, and that it was completely out of line to put us (sudo room) in the middle of a landlord-tenant conflict. He also asked George not to give the police his number. About 15 minutes later, Matt received a call from the police on behalf of Sonitrol (the building's security contractors - George put Matt's number as primary point-of-contact several months ago, despite numerous requests for him not to). I was also in the room for this conversation, and Matt's response was essentially, "This is not our issue. The landlord has kicked a tenant out of the building and it's between them." Matt answered their questions to the extent of supplying them with some descriptive characteristics (name and height), but did not provide anything further (no personal complaints or allegations). After the call, another sudoer present informed Timon that the police had been called by George, and Timon left the common space. All present in sudo room at the time were uncomfortable about the police being invoked, and none of us would willingly bring them into our space regarding a nonviolent interpersonal conflict (had that even been the case). Sudo Room has a conflict resolution process for dealing with conflicts in the community that was written in large part by Matt himself. However, we have a contractual obligation to our landlord that makes this particular situation complicated (as we do not own the building and have no jurisdiction over the landlord's decisions). Had Timon actually been bothering people in the space at that time, Matt would have either talked to him directly or requested mediation by another sudoer. Hopefully this is an unintentional miscommunication between George and Laurie, but it seems they are trying to put sudo room in the middle of their conflict with Timon. Hoping this clarifies things so we can spend more time on Wednesday investigating our new potential spaces rather than a conflict that is not, in fact, between Sudo Room and Timon. Jenny http://jennyryan.net http://thepyre.org http://thevirtualcampfire.org http://technomadic.tumblr.com `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~` "Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories." -Laurie Anderson "Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it." -Hannah Arendt "To define is to kill. To suggest is to create." -Stéphane Mallarmé ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~` On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 5:59 PM, Timon <timondocent(a)gmail.com> wrote: