2 Apr
2014
2 Apr
'14
9:15 p.m.
Hello at this week's meeting we made a new fundraising strategy, that is
participatory.
==Background==
Last year we won two *$4,000 cash* grants, and a *$2,000 3D printer* just
by being sudo room and filling out forms.
==New fundraising Idea==
1. Any sudoer can fill out, or add to this list of 41 grants to apply for.
2. The grant writers for an application will receive a recommendation at a
sudomeeting to get * 50% commission* for applying on sudo's behalf.
3. We organize on fundraising(a)lists.sudoroom.org , so sign up there to
discuss
==Medium-Term Strategy===
1. We think that if the Omni-move-in happens, we would like to fundraise
with them together as a unit. We will wait until July 1st.
2. If the Omni falls through, then we will have a sudo space individual
fundraiser. Idea is a harmonious-hackathon / pay-what-you-can dev bootcamp
one weekend. It can be paired with this idea:
2.1 Offer to host an RSVP Dinner w/ Francisco and Liberation Food Worker
Cooperative
2 Apr
2 Apr
9:56 p.m.
New subject: Earn Money Helping Sudo Room: Write Grants - Get 50%.
On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 9:15 PM, Maximilian Klein <isalix(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hello at this week's meeting we made a new
fundraising strategy, that is
participatory.
==Background==
Last year we won two $4,000 cash grants, and a $2,000 3D printer just by
being sudo room and filling out forms.
==New fundraising Idea==
1. Any sudoer can fill out, or add to this list of 41 grants to apply for.
2. The grant writers for an application will receive a recommendation at a
sudomeeting to get 50% commission for applying on sudo's behalf.
3. We organize on fundraising(a)lists.sudoroom.org , so sign up there to
discuss
That might be difficult to accomplish for some grants (we'll have to
look at individual grant's terms and conditions) but if not possible
for a certain grant, maybe we can let the grant-writer spend them on a
sudo room project of their choosing instead? Of course it should be a
project related to the kinds of things that sudo room does and should
be open/free/libre.
==Medium-Term Strategy===
1. We think that if the Omni-move-in happens, we would like to fundraise
with them together as a unit. We will wait until July 1st.
2. If the Omni falls through, then we will have a sudo space individual
fundraiser. Idea is a harmonious-hackathon / pay-what-you-can dev bootcamp
one weekend. It can be paired with this idea:
2.1 Offer to host an RSVP Dinner w/ Francisco and Liberation Food Worker
Cooperative
_______________________________________________
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11:38 p.m.
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I appreciate the brainstorm on fundraising, and as someone who's
written half a dozen grants this past year, I also appreciate just how
much time and energy it takes to do so.
However, I think this is a bad idea. Namely, because it uses individual
financial incentivization of what should be the natural incentive to
help the community you participate in.
Receiving a set-upon grantwriter stipend if we get the grant? Cool.
Receiving 50% of any funds procured from essentially bragging about the
community? Not cool, and probably not compliant with the terms and
conditions of most grants.
Relevant wiki page for finding funding opportunities and documentation
from past grants: https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Funding
Also, the projected date for the Omni move-in (WHICH IS LOOKING REALLY
REALLY POSSIBLE) is June 1st, not July 1st, and we would probably be
organizing a crowdfunding campaign before then.
Just my two cents!
- -Jenny
On Wed 02 Apr 2014 09:56:59 PM PDT, Marc Juul wrote:
On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 9:15 PM, Maximilian Klein
<isalix(a)gmail.com> wrote:
- --
Jenny
http://jennyryan.net
http://sudomesh.org
http://thevirtualcampfire.org
http://technomadic.tumblr.com
`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
"Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories."
- -Laurie Anderson
"Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining
it."
-Hannah Arendt
"To define is to kill. To suggest is to create."
- -Stéphane Mallarmé
~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
Hello at this week's meeting we made a new
fundraising strategy, that is
participatory.
==Background==
Last year we won two $4,000 cash grants, and a $2,000 3D printer just by
being sudo room and filling out forms.
==New fundraising Idea==
1. Any sudoer can fill out, or add to this list of 41 grants to apply for.
2. The grant writers for an application will receive a recommendation at a
sudomeeting to get 50% commission for applying on sudo's behalf.
3. We organize on fundraising(a)lists.sudoroom.org , so sign up there to
discuss
That might be difficult to accomplish for some grants (we'll have to
look at individual grant's terms and conditions) but if not possible
for a certain grant, maybe we can let the grant-writer spend them on a
sudo room project of their choosing instead? Of course it should be a
project related to the kinds of things that sudo room does and should
be open/free/libre.
==Medium-Term Strategy===
1. We think that if the Omni-move-in happens, we would like to fundraise
with them together as a unit. We will wait until July 1st.
2. If the Omni falls through, then we will have a sudo space individual
fundraiser. Idea is a harmonious-hackathon / pay-what-you-can dev bootcamp
one weekend. It can be paired with this idea:
2.1 Offer to host an RSVP Dinner w/ Francisco and Liberation Food Worker
Cooperative
_______________________________________________
sudo-discuss mailing list
sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org
https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss
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sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org
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3 Apr
3 Apr
12:30 a.m.
i like the idea that the 50% goes to a sudo room project of all the grant writers'
choosing and 50% to the space
on Apr 02, 2014, Jenny Ryan <tunabananas(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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I appreciate the brainstorm on fundraising, and as someone who's
written half a dozen grants this past year, I also appreciate just how
much time and energy it takes to do so.
However, I think this is a bad idea. Namely, because it uses individual
financial incentivization of what should be the natural incentive to
help the community you participate in.
Receiving a set-upon grantwriter stipend if we get the grant? Cool.
Receiving 50% of any funds procured from essentially bragging about the
community? Not cool, and probably not compliant with the terms and
conditions of most grants.
Relevant wiki page for finding funding opportunities and documentation
from past grants: https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Funding
Also, the projected date for the Omni move-in (WHICH IS LOOKING REALLY
REALLY POSSIBLE) is June 1st, not July 1st, and we would probably be
organizing a crowdfunding campaign before then.
Just my two cents!
- -Jenny
On Wed 02 Apr 2014 09:56:59 PM PDT, Marc Juul wrote:
On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 9:15 PM, Maximilian Klein
<isalix(a)gmail.com> wrote:
- --
Jenny
http://jennyryan.net
http://sudomesh.org
http://thevirtualcampfire.org
http://technomadic.tumblr.com
`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
"Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories."
- -Laurie Anderson
"Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining
it."
-Hannah Arendt
"To define is to kill. To suggest is to create."
- -Stéphane Mallarmé
~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
Hello at this week's meeting we made a new
fundraising strategy, that is
participatory.
==Background==
Last year we won two $4,000 cash grants, and a $2,000 3D printer just by
being sudo room and filling out forms.
==New fundraising Idea==
1. Any sudoer can fill out, or add to this list of 41 grants to apply for.
2. The grant writers for an application will receive a recommendation at a
sudomeeting to get 50% commission for applying on sudo's behalf.
3. We organize on fundraising(a)lists.sudoroom.org , so sign up there to
discuss
That might be difficult to accomplish for some grants (we'll have to
look at individual grant's terms and conditions) but if not possible
for a certain grant, maybe we can let the grant-writer spend them on a
sudo room project of their choosing instead? Of course it should be a
project related to the kinds of things that sudo room does and should
be open/free/libre.
==Medium-Term Strategy===
1. We think that if the Omni-move-in happens, we would like to fundraise
with them together as a unit. We will wait until July 1st.
2. If the Omni falls through, then we will have a sudo space individual
fundraiser. Idea is a harmonious-hackathon / pay-what-you-can dev bootcamp
one weekend. It can be paired with this idea:
2.1 Offer to host an RSVP Dinner w/ Francisco and Liberation Food Worker
Cooperative
_______________________________________________
sudo-discuss mailing list
sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org
https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss
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sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org
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On Thu 03 Apr 2014 12:30:34 AM PDT, Hol Gaskill wrote:
i like the idea that the 50% goes to a sudo room
project of all the grant writers' choosing and 50% to the space
+1
- --
Jenny
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1:53 a.m.
New subject: Earn Money Helping Sudo Room: Write Grants - Get 50%.
Uhm - whomever writes the grant, will presumably write it to support a
project of their choosing anyway. Most grants *are* for projects, not the
"give us $1000 to do with what we want because we're cool" variety that
sudoroom has managed to land so far. Are you suggesting to tack on a 100%
overhead for sudo room?
At BioCurious, we've had a few occasions to discuss what overhead rates
would be appropriate for a hacker space, and the consensus was that
something in the 20% range was reasonable. Funding agencies understand
overhead rates, and 20% will seem very affordable to them.
So if someone were to write a grant to raise $5K for a project, they would
tack on an extra $1K to the budget as overhead for sudoroom. And if someone
happened to raise half a million in a kickstarter for a project, and pass
along a nice percentage to run the project out of sudo room - well, let's
just say that would buy free Mate for everyone for quite a while...
Patrik
On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 12:30 AM, Hol Gaskill <hol(a)gaskill.com> wrote:
i like the idea that the 50% goes to a sudo room
project of all the grant
writers' choosing and 50% to the space
on Apr 02, 2014, Jenny Ryan <tunabananas(a)gmail.com> wrote:
- --
Jenny
http://jennyryan.net
http://sudomesh.org
http://thevirtualcampfire.org
http://technomadic.tumblr.com
`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
"Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories."
- -Laurie Anderson
"Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining
it."
-Hannah Arendt
"To define is to kill. To suggest is to create."
- -Stéphane Mallarmé
~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
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I appreciate the brainstorm on fundraising, and as someone who's
written half a dozen grants this past year, I also appreciate just how
much time and energy it takes to do so.
However, I think this is a bad idea. Namely, because it uses individual
financial incentivization of what should be the natural incentive to
help the community you participate in.
Receiving a set-upon grantwriter stipend if we get the grant? Cool.
Receiving 50% of any funds procured from essentially bragging about the
community? Not cool, and probably not compliant with the terms and
conditions of most grants.
Relevant wiki page for finding funding opportunities and documentation
from past grants: https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Funding
Also, the projected date for the Omni move-in (WHICH IS LOOKING REALLY
REALLY POSSIBLE) is June 1st, not July 1st, and we would probably be
organizing a crowdfunding campaign before then.
Just my two cents!
- -Jenny
On Wed 02 Apr 2014 09:56:59 PM PDT, Marc Juul wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 9:15 PM, Maximilian Klein <isalix(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
>> Hello at this week's meeting we made
a new fundraising strategy, that
is
>> participatory.
>>
>> ==Background==
>> Last year we won two $4,000 cash grants, and a $2,000 3D printer just
by
>> being sudo room and filling out forms.
>>
>> ==New fundraising Idea==
>> 1. Any sudoer can fill out, or add to this list of 41 grants to apply
for.
>> 2. The grant writers for an application
will receive a recommendation
at a
>> sudomeeting to get 50% commission for
applying on sudo's behalf.
>> 3. We organize on fundraising(a)lists.sudoroom.org , so sign up there to
>> discuss
>
> That might be difficult to accomplish for some grants (we'll have to
> look at individual grant's terms and conditions) but if not possible
> for a certain grant, maybe we can let the grant-writer spend them on a
> sudo room project of their choosing instead? Of course it should be a
> project related to the kinds of things that sudo room does and should
> be open/free/libre.
>
>> ==Medium-Term Strategy===
>> 1. We think that if the Omni-move-in happens, we would like to
fundraise
>> with them together as a unit. We will
wait until July 1st.
>>
>> 2. If the Omni falls through, then we will have a sudo space individual
>> fundraiser. Idea is a harmonious-hackathon / pay-what-you-can dev
bootcamp
>> one weekend. It can be paired with this
idea:
>> 2.1 Offer to host an RSVP Dinner w/ Francisco and Liberation Food
Worker
Cooperative
_______________________________________________
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