22 Apr
2017
22 Apr
'17
5:08 p.m.
Hey sudo,
Up for omni consensus, a proposal to lock the Classroom (the room between
the entrance hall and the ballroom along shattuck) up for consenso at the
next delegates meeting on May 3rd.
I am wary to say yes as GCEA is currently 5 months behind on rent ($250/mo)
and part of the rationale was that "every other collective has locked
rooms". Also, i have not seen any attempt made to store project items in a
locked cabinet, and the group was effectively not present in the building
from January through March. Finally, Global Womens Strike and Chiapas
Support Committee, who have been members much longer, would like a room of
their own and have never been late on rent ($564 and $200, respectively) or
gone inactive from delegates meetings.
This is the proposal and those are my thoughts. Plz discuss.
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From: "Laura Turiano" <scylla(a)riseup.net>
Date: Apr 20, 2017 4:27 PM
Subject: [omni-consensus] GCEA proposal
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Proposal from GCEA for 4/20/17:
We are in the process of renegotiating our lease. One of our concerns is
that the room we have been using (the classroom behind the children’s
room) is not secure. We agreed to try using the room without a lock, but
multiple items have been stolen including activity folders with personal
information, chargers, books, art supplies and a stapler. We intend to
use the room to hold documents, a laptop, projectors, children activity
folders and other valuables.
Our proposal is to add a lock with a code to the doors to the room.
Anyone who wants to use the room when it is free can get the code from
us. We have discussed this with BAPS and they are in agreement with this
arrangement.
We appreciate your attention to this request.
Thank you in advance.
Best Regards,
Almaz
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23 Apr
23 Apr
1:02 a.m.
My thoughts:
If they haven't even tried locking up their valuables in a cabinet or
something, it seems a little odd to want to lock up the whole room. I'm
sensitive to concerns about theft, but it's not clear why "documents, a
laptop, projectors, children activity folders and other valuables"
couldn't be locked up when not in use, without locking the entire room.
Also, I'd expect that the code for the room will become widely known
over time, reducing the security of the valuables kept inside. On the
other hand, access to the valuables can likely be kept more restricted.
As opposed to giving the combination to "anyone who wants to use the
room when it is free", people who need access to GCEA documents,
laptop, projectors, folders, and other things could be issued keys.
Surely the number of people who will need access to those items is
more limited than the number of people who might ever want to use that
room.
Kind regards,
--
Charley Sheets
24 Apr
24 Apr
11:37 a.m.
5 months late on rent and asking to be granted exclusive control of more
space? Seems like success in meeting previously agreed obligations
should be the prerequisite for any renegotiation of their lease. I
appreciate the importance of GC's mission and if folks believe the theft
issue has been the principal limitation on their ability to meet agreed
commitments after they took all necessary measures to secure property
then it could make sense.
Also I was searching on the Omni wiki for a definition of conditions for
member collectives being deemed in bad standing but no dice. Is it in
the minutes somewhere?
On 2017-04-22 17:08, Jenny Ryan wrote:
Hey sudo,
Up for omni consensus, a proposal to lock the Classroom (the room between the entrance
hall and the ballroom along shattuck) up for consenso at the next delegates meeting on May
3rd.
I am wary to say yes as GCEA is currently 5 months behind on rent ($250/mo) and part of
the rationale was that "every other collective has locked rooms". Also, i have
not seen any attempt made to store project items in a locked cabinet, and the group was
effectively not present in the building from January through March. Finally, Global Womens
Strike and Chiapas Support Committee, who have been members much longer, would like a room
of their own and have never been late on rent ($564 and $200, respectively) or gone
inactive from delegates meetings.
This is the proposal and those are my thoughts. Plz discuss.
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "Laura Turiano" <scylla(a)riseup.net>
Date: Apr 20, 2017 4:27 PM
Subject: [omni-consensus] GCEA proposal
To: "consensus(a)lists.omnicommons.org" <consensus(a)lists.omnicommons.org>
Cc:
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Proposal from GCEA for 4/20/17:
We are in the process of renegotiating our lease. One of our concerns is
that the room we have been using (the classroom behind the children's
room) is not secure. We agreed to try using the room without a lock, but
multiple items have been stolen including activity folders with personal
information, chargers, books, art supplies and a stapler. We intend to
use the room to hold documents, a laptop, projectors, children activity
folders and other valuables.
Our proposal is to add a lock with a code to the doors to the room.
Anyone who wants to use the room when it is free can get the code from
us. We have discussed this with BAPS and they are in agreement with this
arrangement.
We appreciate your attention to this request.
Thank you in advance.
Best Regards,
Almaz
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