Wonder what is going on. It looks like sudohumans was working for me until October: 10/28/2020 XX3735 DDA RECURR SUDO ROOM OAKLAND CA 00383493 995809 - Is it still working for other people? I wanted to check my account status so I went to https://sudoroom.org/humans/ My username and password were rejected. Are other folks able to log in? I gave John Torok a check a couple of weeks ago, so at least my dues have been covered in the interim, and I should be fully Pfizered by the end of the month, so I can lay out some more bread in meatspace, but sudohumans may be having issues. On a doganal note, Einstein will be Sweet 16 on Thursday if he is spared, but he hasn't been able to handle the stairs for about 6 weeks, so we've been living in the backyard in a tent and then then migrated to a shed. Gobs of fun. E² On 4/5/21 5:36 PM, Yardena Cohen wrote: Apparently we stopped paying rent 6 months ago and nobody noticed because they were reading quickbooks wrong. Anybody wanna solve this? 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From straight cash available, we can pay off $6K (need to keep some $$ in

I love you, Ed & Einstein!!! I was able to log in to sudohumans. It seems most accounts are disconnected... folks, please check your sudohumans account and make a donation if you're able! <3 Jenny Help open a professional kitchen at the Omni Commons in Oakland! https://omnicommons.org/kitchen `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~` "Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories." -Laurie Anderson "Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it." -Hannah Arendt "To define is to kill. To suggest is to create." -Stéphane Mallarmé "Anything done for the first time unleashes a demon." --Dave Sim, "Cerebus the Aardvark" ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~` On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 9:35 PM Ed Biow &lt;biow(a)riseup.net&gt; wrote:

So I guess we have about $11,500 total.

Or maybe we should save that money to pay for a dump run when we get evicted? C'mon y'all. If not a single person is willing to handle this, then sudoroom is over and we should close up shop. This is not going to end well for us. _______________________________________________ sudo-discuss mailing list sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org https://sudoroom.org/lists/listinfo/sudo-discuss

I'm trying to find out myself -jake On Sun, 18 Apr 2021, Taylor Alexander wrote: > Hmm well my issue is I don’t know how to do this. Does someone know how? > > On Sun, Apr 18, 2021 at 7:51 AM Yardena Cohen &lt;yardenack(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: > >>>> So I guess we have about $11,500 total. >>> >>> This is a good start. Who's going to take responsibility for sending >>> this money to omni? >> >> Or maybe we should save that money to pay for a dump run when we get >> evicted? >> >> C'mon y'all. If not a single person is willing to handle this, then >> sudoroom is over and we should close up shop. This is not going to end >> well for us. >> _______________________________________________ >> sudo-discuss mailing list >> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >> https://sudoroom.org/lists/listinfo/sudo-discuss >> >

No, actually, self-hosted / internal email is really hard for many domains affected by those uceprotect asshole's RBLs (which are maybe finally resolved as of February?). I could elaborate, but better y'all duckduckgo it..

On Tue, Apr 20, 2021 at 9:00 PM Jenny Ryan &lt;tunabananas(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: I think this is probably in response to my comment, "It's not hard for apps to send email." My point was that apps aren't handling the smtp, postfix is. Self-hosting an email server is hard, but doesn't need to be within the scope of sudo-humans, which can just send emails by passing them to postfix with a simple command.

So is this resolved then? It would be a shame if sudoroom dissolved. Are we set on using the sudohumans site for collections? Seems like its unreliable at best and no one is on point for it. I've worked for a number of nonprofits and all of them outsourced collections. Getting a monthly letter from a 3rd party with a monthly budget breakdown goes a long way. "thank you for your donation of X dollars. 70% went to rent and we were able to complete X outstanding project and host X lecture series." Right now it feels like throwing money into a void and it's unclear if it was even received. On Tue, Apr 20, 2021, 10:02 PM Jake &lt;jake(a)spaz.org&gt; wrote: _______________________________________________ sudo-discuss mailing list sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org https://sudoroom.org/lists/listinfo/sudo-discuss

Delinquent property taxes in the amount of $201,161 are due for the Omni Commons Building (Alameda parcel 13-1161-1) Property tax default foreclosure proceedings may be initiated by next year: $161,526 Prior year delinquent taxes $ 39,635 Current year property tax $201,161 Total property taxes due https://www.acgov.org/ptax_pub_app/RealSearchInit.do?searchByParcel=true&am… There is still time to apply for a payment plan to avoid tax foreclosure. But instead of $40K/year taxes would be increased to $60K/year to pay off back taxes. According to the Alameda county tax collector it is still possible to apply for a waiver of penalties for 2020 taxes but the deadline to apply is May 6 2021. On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 11:23 AM Yardena Cohen &lt;yardenack(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: > > AFAIK sudo is still very much in the red. I think the next steps should be: > > 1) determine exactly how much we still owe > 2) gofundme for that amount, plus may, june & july rent > 3) make a plan to be sustainable beyond july > > Insurance inspection went as well as we could have hoped. Loan > application is being finalized and hopefully submitted tomorrow. > _______________________________________________ > sudo-discuss mailing list > sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org > https://sudoroom.org/lists/listinfo/sudo-discuss

Hi Ed, My sudo humans payment stopped working around the same exact time, but i'm pretty sure it's because my card went missing and I got a new one at that time, but it could be a coincidence and that sudo humans and/or stripe has had problems that we didn't realize. Does anyone know if we get emails from stripe about cards being rejected / automatic payments failing?  Who is maintaining sudo humans? Ed, if you're unable to login, is it possible that there's a capitalization issue with your login name?  The system is case-dependant. I was able to log in recently so I think the system is at least partially working.  If you are still unable to get in, I am willing to work on it with you over the phone, you have my number and we're both on Signal. I'm also trying to find other people who are more qualified to help with this. sudo-humans is important!  it's how we get our money so sudoroom and omni-commons can continue to exist. -jake On Mon, 5 Apr 2021, Ed Biow wrote: > Wonder what is going on. It looks like sudohumans was working for me > until October: > > 10/28/2020 XX3735 DDA RECURR SUDO ROOM OAKLAND CA 00383493 995809 > > - > > > > > Is it still working for other people? > > I wanted to check my account status so I went to > https://sudoroom.org/humans/ > > My username and password were rejected. Are other folks able to log in? > > I gave John Torok a check a couple of weeks ago, so at least my dues > have been covered in the interim, and I should be fully Pfizered by > the end of the month, so I can lay out some more bread in meatspace, > but sudohumans may be having issues. > > On a doganal note, Einstein will be Sweet 16 on Thursday if he is > spared, but he hasn't been able to handle the stairs for about 6 > weeks, so we've been living in the backyard in a tent and then then > migrated to a shed. Gobs of fun. > > E² > > > On 4/5/21 5:36 PM, Yardena Cohen wrote: >> Apparently we stopped paying rent 6 months ago and nobody noticed >> because they were reading quickbooks wrong. >> >> Anybody wanna solve this? I call not it. >> _______________________________________________ >> sudo-discuss mailing list >> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >> https://sudoroom.org/lists/listinfo/sudo-discuss > > -- > +++++++++++++++++++sig hell+++++++++++++++++++ > Edmund Joseph Biow > 328 Haddon Road > Oakland, California 94606 > (510) 763-0591 (dumb landline, no caller ID, answering machine in > attic, generally monitored in morning) > (415) 623-6473 (cell, I monitor the landline more frequently) > > EMAIL > biow(a)sonic.net (personal) - biow(a)riseup.net (political) - > ejbiow(a)gmail.com (large attachments) - ebiow(a)yasashi.net (bcc) > ejbiow(a)yahoo.com (commercial) > > IM (Instant Messaging, like text messaging but for computers) > (I recommend pidgin with the 'otr' encryption plugin as an instant > message client): > ejbiow(a)gmail.com - ejbiow(a)yahoo.com - EdJBiow (AIM) - biow(a)riseup.net > - often "Gnudnik" on irc.freenode.net > > Skype username: edmundbiow > > To subscribe or unsubscribe to the lists for which I'm an > administrator send an email to the following: > Subscribe: > occupyoakland-subscribe(a)lists.riseup.net > oscargrantcommittee-subscribe(a)lists.riseup.net > oaklandprivacyworkinggroup-subscribe(a)lists.riseup.net > oaklandpublicbank-subscribe(a)lists.riseup.net > occupyoaklanddiscuss-subscribe(a)lists.riseup.net > oaklandlivablewagediscussion-subscribe(a)lists.riseup.net (dormant) > occupyoaklandkitchen-subscribe(a)lists.riseup.net (dormant) > > Unsubscribe: > occupyoakland-unsubscribe(a)lists.riseup.net > oscargrantcommittee-unsubscribe(a)lists.riseup.net > oaklandprivacyworkinggroup-unsubscribe(a)lists.riseup.net > oaklandpublicbank-unsubscribe(a)lists.riseup.net > occupyoaklanddiscuss-unsubscribe(a)lists.riseup.net > > Relatively secure EMAIL: > >  You can use a PGP key to encrypt and secure our messages. To start > using it, you'll need to install an OpenPGP software on your > computer.  Below you'll find a list of possible solutions for your > operating system: > > Windoze: Kleopatra (http://gpg4win.de/download.html) > OSX: GPG Keychain (https://gpgtools.org/#gpgsuite) > Linux: GnuPG (https://www.gnupg.org/related_software/frontends.html) > Android: OpenKeychain > (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.sufficientlysecure.keycha…) > i(diot)OS: iPGMail > (https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/ipgmail/id430780873?mt=8) > > Once you set up PGP on your computer please import my public key into > your local OpenPGP Key-Manager. The valid PGP keys for my > biow(a)cubasoldarity.net & biow(a)riseup.net accounts can be downloaded > here: http://ebiow.yasashi.net/pgp/ > > An "easy" way to set up PGP on your computer is to download the free > & open sources Thunderbird email client (available on Linux, Windohs > & O$X) & install the EnigMail Add-On. > https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/all.html > https://www.enigmail.net/download/ > https://www.enigmail.net/documentation/quickstart-ch1.php > > Looking forward to exchange snooping-free messages with you & making > the NSA spend mondo bucks to discover the secret of my bube's > kartofel kugel recipe. >  PGP Public Key for biow(a)riseup.net: > > -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- > Version: GnuPG v1 > > mQSuBFH/+cURDADp1FTESAcLH801d1ueRIIresIKhoGx4TjeBFuJgwcGEDazeSJa > 9sd9yw7q9vfqQ/yeNxt4fy3GgWuKIEmjHgdmlSA0gC5QYfA6yvhR0ejrwkV1K1F/ > kV0H83HWFTi04LA6+9gIiq0YYtWaXOvi5H/PcRUpTyRBGet2KGZKrgNxTVo+Acp/ > +bt8uqFjVE8/b1jZdqVDfA/DgUJj2UPdP1gPnvUxv5VKQLRvOEbEnN+0aqvezty2 > DQNxEfqWQiOtytXmf3xy76MFeWYWtFxQG3av8IsBu6LiaKxL2/gvWezzl8NjG/eH > ODPscrNOWj5Lb9f/KgrPMCEwDFRUw4/yV+L5OsWgeN6hc1ZRm83OTfbgr0I+35/S > QtBFEbJ8uZh8g6wAioZGjMEaZb+3KZy/Ys39Bye1gxqjuasz5A1Fe9fHAiKB5OZT > XRlXHHklAXMX+4QCG2epuDvWDmi8Fkl5movo2C09rjYAs2NthZiLDVoT2aMEOsuR > y6KzgJFYugQoWe8BAKofM7OAtdHfkjjcMyGdowuig3ZRF/0ORBJU4KXDG00HC/4/ > 3hJl1hDvNNsukMIkaMbjSFjISro8whM1zR++yLilxk2HqHQ62kQmpi/dy9qdl8X9 > X9TZhzqtMQ8FCqoQPbnIeF5U6qLxgKajdggbmu+CQqthbYLoNrCBoQ3mq6Llnn6y > +0+iADDWnIkDCKY4KojwqeAO4KcHazCQXsyNw64vl/ttfp2OCPkM3CwLWywE99lb > QDqYHYiL9o29C/rRlDkiBmatY6OG+R5h9NPURoKCTK4VTr1/DzHIevTseNlX+we2 > DQhoP5Mc47wBzZMUxlZTKP5WxSO3aLxIIkHLNI/PLoPoK0RhlV0kao2vyHF67/v+ > JETKSnQrDEABW6VX0mH9OCzEm4QIm/RSPP/dOpYV71EqVgtCBGBteR4UAgUBWmrq > MRNW4mReFZVoZmPbgfuo5+h7lnqrc85n+B8WVCZZ3ObCc9AdmOo0YZX08Tbxct3o > Bo6BB6fAkX65ny5Z0L771TI8fZmnwlGY+c4SF5zTV+NI/mgP8xQEGPonQKUUujEM > AIho9waVpg14kas+9wSKC+CqhCsoM3kEHQV9VE+YlNK2UjZQ2P2EOFEXd0FZoB6Z > uJlZhyOxuQrdDcaIG33+nsJIhMvvjOxCU1bnb2mL7UG8u4EPwCG7ByNTJdtv7Fh8 > uZWk6AMOWUNDSHSUqlTj+hK8vOy/JYACAPdsU4+wJwywtdtesBmDVP1L5RU++vXm > UKxTylKiNt9zFdUbq3tqJCI7tpZ8KJNVN+f/lbozdD0LLI5D6iTAJeH39+HNDvuM > eRL6d5VCMWQee509nlpiCdwUDrgiVzGKZLZnD24q0YCYUY9qXeUDz6516e5oN1PD > YKKySv2iaSBxkEuiLFm8P3aREX49SajAZSsVKrjHVxIPVU+sJxwOv3knAv9S6hR4 > /PjKy97SarxccT94q7EaNfoSeU2vDouOrBQbPXuUXmo6JCYkZ7diRHuS8UohYynD > fGkAEDJIdUl5gk94tSFlyQLf6VvfhGxvfxZ07IEfwg0ngCIA3yOoOMIKolqW3Y8x > brQ2RWQgQmlvdyAoNGssIGJyaW5nIG9uIHRoZSAkNSB3cmVuY2gpIDxiaW93QHJp > c2V1cC5uZXQ+iHoEExEIACIFAlH/+cUCGyMGCwkIBwMCBhUIAgkKCwQWAgMBAh4B > AheAAAoJECFwMETW4AsTkt0BAJ0PVd61nLWwLAnuXHZLiFEkoHsJ67Ia9g+Ko2sd > KdQPAP4lsgljmyiPk+yTRphXKuckoOjxjsFmmaqge1fHNf0S2LkEDQRR//nFEBAA > jo3VP8u7CksqPneuFn6IrmO61jinCEo6dZW4a9loUDuX2gJI7wj918OEck2dBJn2 > ubv3+G8scZhfU9HpDajbh161IW2hldvukk4il9TzKbOIV8g+CG7bTo1I3k8cFVmX > JjMI52uKqSkaoEodtU5lQvhYYyMXMLJ/QbaStA3kgTubWvS/N3/iQ3gRZVHkzRyj > fNe2OM2+fY2AFpuVZEn0eu+DfqILzPWTFCSVSXFZLcBe6crPYJaLW2gFf9eL6aDg > gBoP2AMeurg3WwjkCvAOSK6xD/TcCLZiWWjnWL/i3d+7A3l9yw7eCvNYkbEbuy9M > 9aMUwHBg+dRvKpyTGA4O9FF5jXKWBaUiDZxR8+hkDaYLhyxafQiXRF9NmSes/v8o > Q9q4tYUDpvQbZpj7vjkCS6MOVq7oN3MPx9eGyHYpxXI3yP7gupYwfAydmVLCrvUt > WK97v/KcystOnNEpiLavEuqEhEIv6U8RaNLxPPI2CmlLCyyadZfv4NHfU2WYo8H3 > rd1CZyvC/iBM5ZBqbLL8WmOVxMjFkwCY78FBRKQ5LGGp5V8UvgvEWJcmlhKGK9FM > tY6XkgWuujYgWqmMtgf09BntYaJ1oruaOCyazufrhyx/296GHNU3dvFRgq37ePq+ > FiFQV83U0PR0uqYtNaFFlDViuCqtNQxx33nl8m3cQJMAAwUP/0XDRpBJ6uMAUpkq > oKIgJjbWNUbbUh+RuL3LWY30foxF8Q1A5xJJ+2P0WLcr0j+hsVJLjA7zn38o6Zbn > qT/0S6mKIEcXlsulrcDtbSLQ8MUJO+sky2XZlk1knL0xcrw9OgaebpzHU4mWviyj > 8HqHHzhjD1ZHA42CkDyI8DyXwXJvez2yFcxtKrjVMrGuxRjEwZtJqaOuWt9pp9Tp > l6VXzdOTPDC8FdHl50HVGJoVX1HJJtbRlDHskBX6eU683+1i4BCdoyNUNzHzkVYB > +FT3hrwiPtG8ac5BXSdFHb+opNCYrp4qMbWBe4BrMGm+QipTU9/0FhxfR94qgEC1 > nL/pgeItXwe4iC3mqc7tEBhy6KWdeY7QXYDnKb4dDW/ipTHP1+TBBfXtH+4cGdXd > PUEJ/6Aqe60qFau1Vh4yTqoCG0B6tKHxwThOZQ/SxQRKl/fmHN7EFJaG6IcRBrRD > 2RbUNkCmp+MOvVWYuQiq6WfiORjUI3DcMRcbjkRr2wX2ihjFi+dJodbIfqjr0q1X > DHVXnT7BDZXWvhDyyCsd1nwxoJW8KBQbm5BTYQ5ROz++nYDtt/4Is8eK5SY7G3rY > dE8x3ypbnfX/LrYM9dPkAL4ulUnmO6dqwbvAZc3pQBiurTxjpqdvqx9CpbjVDSmf > XJcG/zgfqdYGdkFwM8JSXG2DOmB5iGEEGBEIAAkFAlH/+cUCGwwACgkQIXAwRNbg > CxPSXwD/QDF0ILGa8LD+YF7eGC7JZasuRu2100EwLeQlCx5X920A/3mk0gr4Lo7e > cKuaMJnvySeLUouC8+LF7a8ePxmbfHvw > =gUK/ > -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- > > Is god willing to prevent evil but not able? Then he is not > omnipotent. Is he able but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he > both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able > nor willing? Then why call him god? - Epicurus (341-270 BCE) > >                        _-^--^=-_ >                   _.-^^          -~_ >                _--                  --_ >               <                        >) >               |    That's all, folks!   | >                \._                   _./ >                   ```--. . , ; .--''' >                         | |   | >                      .-=||  | |=-. >                      `-=#$%&%$#=-' >                         | ;  :| >                _____.,-#%&amp;$(a)%#&amp;#~,._____ > >

Anyone know if this grant program would apply to Omni? https://www.sba.gov/funding-programs/loans/covid-19-relief-options/shuttere… From the FAQ <https://www.sba.gov/document/support-faq-regarding-shuttered-venue-operators-grant-svog> : "Eligible entities may be live venue operators or promoters, theatrical producers, live performing arts organization operators, museum operators, motion picture theatre operators, and talent representatives, per the Economic Aid Act." Seems like "live venue operator" would be appropriate. On Thu, Apr 8, 2021 at 6:59 PM Ed Biow &lt;biow(a)riseup.net&gt; wrote: _______________________________________________ sudo-discuss mailing list sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org https://sudoroom.org/lists/listinfo/sudo-discuss

Hi Ed, My sudo humans payment stopped working around the same exact time, but i'm pretty sure it's because my card went missing and I got a new one at that time, but it could be a coincidence and that sudo humans and/or stripe has had problems that we didn't realize. Does anyone know if we get emails from stripe about cards being rejected / automatic payments failing? Who is maintaining sudo humans? Ed, if you're unable to login, is it possible that there's a capitalization issue with your login name? The system is case-dependant. I was able to log in recently so I think the system is at least partially working. If you are still unable to get in, I am willing to work on it with you over the phone, you have my number and we're both on Signal. I'm also trying to find other people who are more qualified to help with this. sudo-humans is important! it's how we get our money so sudoroom and omni-commons can continue to exist. -jake On Mon, 5 Apr 2021, Ed Biow wrote: until https://sudoroom.org/humans/ have of the be spared, but been of ejbiow(a)gmail.com (commercial) message often send using https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.sufficientlysecure.keycha… ) https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/ipgmail/id430780873?mt=8) your biow(a)cubasoldarity.net & open NSA recipe. Is he willing? him sudo-discuss mailing list sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org https://sudoroom.org/lists/listinfo/sudo-discuss

I'm guessing this has to do with the fact that email is very difficult to do without constant maintenance and that even if messages are being sent out, they're likely getting spam-canned. Off the top of my head, the solution could be to make the messages go directly to a small mailinglist so that humans can see the messages and then send a personal reminder to whomever fell off of their tithing. but I can't really understand how the code of sudo-humans works, so I have to defer to people who have contributed and are offering to contribute. But I do have access to the server it's running on. Patrik, is there a github issue specific to that problem? -jake On Fri, 9 Apr 2021, Patrik D'haeseleer wrote: with i'm that rejected / capitalization partially may attic, - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.sufficientlysecure.keycha… the >> NSA >>> spend mondo bucks to discover the secret of my bube's kartofel kugel >> recipe. >>> PGP Public Key for biow(a)riseup.net: >>> >>> -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- >>> Version: GnuPG v1 >>> >>> mQSuBFH/+cURDADp1FTESAcLH801d1ueRIIresIKhoGx4TjeBFuJgwcGEDazeSJa >>> 9sd9yw7q9vfqQ/yeNxt4fy3GgWuKIEmjHgdmlSA0gC5QYfA6yvhR0ejrwkV1K1F/ >>> kV0H83HWFTi04LA6+9gIiq0YYtWaXOvi5H/PcRUpTyRBGet2KGZKrgNxTVo+Acp/ >>> +bt8uqFjVE8/b1jZdqVDfA/DgUJj2UPdP1gPnvUxv5VKQLRvOEbEnN+0aqvezty2 >>> DQNxEfqWQiOtytXmf3xy76MFeWYWtFxQG3av8IsBu6LiaKxL2/gvWezzl8NjG/eH >>> ODPscrNOWj5Lb9f/KgrPMCEwDFRUw4/yV+L5OsWgeN6hc1ZRm83OTfbgr0I+35/S >>> QtBFEbJ8uZh8g6wAioZGjMEaZb+3KZy/Ys39Bye1gxqjuasz5A1Fe9fHAiKB5OZT >>> XRlXHHklAXMX+4QCG2epuDvWDmi8Fkl5movo2C09rjYAs2NthZiLDVoT2aMEOsuR >>> y6KzgJFYugQoWe8BAKofM7OAtdHfkjjcMyGdowuig3ZRF/0ORBJU4KXDG00HC/4/ >>> 3hJl1hDvNNsukMIkaMbjSFjISro8whM1zR++yLilxk2HqHQ62kQmpi/dy9qdl8X9 >>> X9TZhzqtMQ8FCqoQPbnIeF5U6qLxgKajdggbmu+CQqthbYLoNrCBoQ3mq6Llnn6y >>> +0+iADDWnIkDCKY4KojwqeAO4KcHazCQXsyNw64vl/ttfp2OCPkM3CwLWywE99lb >>> QDqYHYiL9o29C/rRlDkiBmatY6OG+R5h9NPURoKCTK4VTr1/DzHIevTseNlX+we2 >>> DQhoP5Mc47wBzZMUxlZTKP5WxSO3aLxIIkHLNI/PLoPoK0RhlV0kao2vyHF67/v+ >>> JETKSnQrDEABW6VX0mH9OCzEm4QIm/RSPP/dOpYV71EqVgtCBGBteR4UAgUBWmrq >>> MRNW4mReFZVoZmPbgfuo5+h7lnqrc85n+B8WVCZZ3ObCc9AdmOo0YZX08Tbxct3o >>> Bo6BB6fAkX65ny5Z0L771TI8fZmnwlGY+c4SF5zTV+NI/mgP8xQEGPonQKUUujEM >>> AIho9waVpg14kas+9wSKC+CqhCsoM3kEHQV9VE+YlNK2UjZQ2P2EOFEXd0FZoB6Z >>> uJlZhyOxuQrdDcaIG33+nsJIhMvvjOxCU1bnb2mL7UG8u4EPwCG7ByNTJdtv7Fh8 >>> uZWk6AMOWUNDSHSUqlTj+hK8vOy/JYACAPdsU4+wJwywtdtesBmDVP1L5RU++vXm >>> UKxTylKiNt9zFdUbq3tqJCI7tpZ8KJNVN+f/lbozdD0LLI5D6iTAJeH39+HNDvuM >>> eRL6d5VCMWQee509nlpiCdwUDrgiVzGKZLZnD24q0YCYUY9qXeUDz6516e5oN1PD >>> YKKySv2iaSBxkEuiLFm8P3aREX49SajAZSsVKrjHVxIPVU+sJxwOv3knAv9S6hR4 >>> /PjKy97SarxccT94q7EaNfoSeU2vDouOrBQbPXuUXmo6JCYkZ7diRHuS8UohYynD >>> fGkAEDJIdUl5gk94tSFlyQLf6VvfhGxvfxZ07IEfwg0ngCIA3yOoOMIKolqW3Y8x >>> brQ2RWQgQmlvdyAoNGssIGJyaW5nIG9uIHRoZSAkNSB3cmVuY2gpIDxiaW93QHJp >>> c2V1cC5uZXQ+iHoEExEIACIFAlH/+cUCGyMGCwkIBwMCBhUIAgkKCwQWAgMBAh4B >>> AheAAAoJECFwMETW4AsTkt0BAJ0PVd61nLWwLAnuXHZLiFEkoHsJ67Ia9g+Ko2sd >>> KdQPAP4lsgljmyiPk+yTRphXKuckoOjxjsFmmaqge1fHNf0S2LkEDQRR//nFEBAA >>> jo3VP8u7CksqPneuFn6IrmO61jinCEo6dZW4a9loUDuX2gJI7wj918OEck2dBJn2 >>> ubv3+G8scZhfU9HpDajbh161IW2hldvukk4il9TzKbOIV8g+CG7bTo1I3k8cFVmX >>> JjMI52uKqSkaoEodtU5lQvhYYyMXMLJ/QbaStA3kgTubWvS/N3/iQ3gRZVHkzRyj >>> fNe2OM2+fY2AFpuVZEn0eu+DfqILzPWTFCSVSXFZLcBe6crPYJaLW2gFf9eL6aDg >>> gBoP2AMeurg3WwjkCvAOSK6xD/TcCLZiWWjnWL/i3d+7A3l9yw7eCvNYkbEbuy9M >>> 9aMUwHBg+dRvKpyTGA4O9FF5jXKWBaUiDZxR8+hkDaYLhyxafQiXRF9NmSes/v8o >>> Q9q4tYUDpvQbZpj7vjkCS6MOVq7oN3MPx9eGyHYpxXI3yP7gupYwfAydmVLCrvUt >>> WK97v/KcystOnNEpiLavEuqEhEIv6U8RaNLxPPI2CmlLCyyadZfv4NHfU2WYo8H3 >>> rd1CZyvC/iBM5ZBqbLL8WmOVxMjFkwCY78FBRKQ5LGGp5V8UvgvEWJcmlhKGK9FM >>> tY6XkgWuujYgWqmMtgf09BntYaJ1oruaOCyazufrhyx/296GHNU3dvFRgq37ePq+ >>> FiFQV83U0PR0uqYtNaFFlDViuCqtNQxx33nl8m3cQJMAAwUP/0XDRpBJ6uMAUpkq >>> oKIgJjbWNUbbUh+RuL3LWY30foxF8Q1A5xJJ+2P0WLcr0j+hsVJLjA7zn38o6Zbn >>> qT/0S6mKIEcXlsulrcDtbSLQ8MUJO+sky2XZlk1knL0xcrw9OgaebpzHU4mWviyj >>> 8HqHHzhjD1ZHA42CkDyI8DyXwXJvez2yFcxtKrjVMrGuxRjEwZtJqaOuWt9pp9Tp >>> l6VXzdOTPDC8FdHl50HVGJoVX1HJJtbRlDHskBX6eU683+1i4BCdoyNUNzHzkVYB >>> +FT3hrwiPtG8ac5BXSdFHb+opNCYrp4qMbWBe4BrMGm+QipTU9/0FhxfR94qgEC1 >>> nL/pgeItXwe4iC3mqc7tEBhy6KWdeY7QXYDnKb4dDW/ipTHP1+TBBfXtH+4cGdXd >>> PUEJ/6Aqe60qFau1Vh4yTqoCG0B6tKHxwThOZQ/SxQRKl/fmHN7EFJaG6IcRBrRD >>> 2RbUNkCmp+MOvVWYuQiq6WfiORjUI3DcMRcbjkRr2wX2ihjFi+dJodbIfqjr0q1X >>> DHVXnT7BDZXWvhDyyCsd1nwxoJW8KBQbm5BTYQ5ROz++nYDtt/4Is8eK5SY7G3rY >>> dE8x3ypbnfX/LrYM9dPkAL4ulUnmO6dqwbvAZc3pQBiurTxjpqdvqx9CpbjVDSmf >>> XJcG/zgfqdYGdkFwM8JSXG2DOmB5iGEEGBEIAAkFAlH/+cUCGwwACgkQIXAwRNbg >>> CxPSXwD/QDF0ILGa8LD+YF7eGC7JZasuRu2100EwLeQlCx5X920A/3mk0gr4Lo7e >>> cKuaMJnvySeLUouC8+LF7a8ePxmbfHvw >>> =gUK/ >>> -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- >>> >>> Is god willing to prevent evil but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. >> Is he >>> able but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and >> willing? >>> Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call >> him >>> god? - Epicurus (341-270 BCE) >>> >>> _-^--^=-_ >>> _.-^^ -~_ >>> _-- --_ >>> < >) >>> | That's all, folks! | >>> \._ _./ >>> ```--. . , ; .--''' >>> | | | >>> .-=|| | |=-. >>> `-=#$%&%$#=-' >>> | ; :| >>> _____.,-#%&amp;$(a)%#&amp;#~,._____ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >> sudo-discuss mailing list >> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >> https://sudoroom.org/lists/listinfo/sudo-discuss >> >