17 Nov
2013
17 Nov
'13
3:44 p.m.
Would like to return to the idea that we should be
generating other revenue
streams into the picture of whatever standardized reporting format we choose.
The simplest, most efficient, and most rewarding revenue stream is
if members sign up for auto pay of their membership dues.
That's really all there is to it.
17 Nov
17 Nov
4:30 p.m.
New subject: Dealing with funding
I agree with batkid - and marc, in spirit - but I think it IS okay to
accept recurring monies, *we* just have to be prepared to not compromise on
any principles - if this hypothetical/non-hypothetical
grant/donation-giving entity or entities defund us, that's their
prerogative. If they try to influence us, then it's up to refuse their
money at that time, or tell them to f off.
In other words, it's on *us* to keep a grip on our principles, and not
*let*outside forces unduly influence us...we do this through
statements of
principle, bylaws, consensus-based decision-making, etc.
Money is fucking scary. I really feel that way. But let's see if we are
strong enough to control it, rather than the other way around, provided we
one day have enough cash to worry about its sauron-like influences
David
On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 3:44 PM, The Batkid <batkid(a)gmx.com> wrote:
Would like to
return to the idea that we should be generating other
revenue
streams into the picture of whatever standardized
reporting format we
choose.
The simplest, most efficient, and most rewarding revenue stream is
if members sign up for auto pay of their membership dues.
That's really all there is to it.
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4:52 p.m.
New subject: Dealing with funding
FYI, for inspiration, and I concur we should draft something similar we can
consense on:
FINANCIAL POLICY OF THE BAY AREA PUBLIC SCHOOL
PASSED : November 14, 2013
*The Bay Area Public School is a free school.*
*All of its classes and events are always free of charge and free of
monetary solicitation.*
*Our space at 2141 Broadway is paid for by community members who have
pledged $20 a month for six months to make the School’s monthly expenses of
$1000.*
*We also welcome donations in any amount from individuals, with the
understanding that such donations are with no strings attached.*
*The Bay Area Public School is not a nonprofit and does not apply for
grants. Its members may autonomously pursue grants according to their
judgment. As with other kinds of donations, such funds must be offered with
no strings attached.*
*Financial contributions are not and will never be a requirement for
participation in the school's classes, events or in its administrative
process.*
*We are committed to total financial transparency. We will send a
quarterly report on our income and expenses to our announcement list.*
*We hope to make our space at 2141 Broadway available to other community
organizations for their events and projects. In order to use the space,
such organizations must consent to our terms of use : that any events held
in the space or in the name of the Bay Area Public School are free of
charge and free of monetary solicitation.*
*The Public School is structured as a commons. We want what everyone needs
to be free.*
*Organizations wishing to make items available for sale are asked to be
conscious of these core principles of the Public School. If such
organizations have questions about the appropriateness of certain items for
sale, they are encouraged to discuss their questions with their
bottomliner.*
*The Bay Area Public School is an anti-capitalist school. Our politics
are radical and contestatory. We acknowledge the necessary evil of the use
of money but are committed to a continuous reexamination of the ways in
which we use it. Among other inspirations we collectively recall the
money-free space created at Oscar Grant Plaza during Occupy Oakland, and
aspire to create such spaces in the future, and to build the new world in
the shell of the old. *
---------
Jenny
http://jennyryan.net
http://thepyre.org
http://thevirtualcampfire.org
http://technomadic.tumblr.com
9:41 p.m.
New subject: Dealing with funding
On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 4:30 PM, David Keenan <dkeenan44(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I agree with batkid - and marc, in spirit - but I
think it IS okay to
accept recurring monies, *we* just have to be prepared to not compromise
on any principles - if this hypothetical/non-hypothetical
grant/donation-giving entity or entities defund us, that's their
prerogative. If they try to influence us, then it's up to refuse their
money at that time, or tell them to f off.
Ok. I think I actually made a mistake in bringing this up at all, since it
totally _is_ hypothetical so we shouldn't worry about it until we have to.
Also, I like your point.
In other words, it's on *us* to keep a grip on our
principles, and not
*let* outside forces unduly influence us...we do this through statements
of principle, bylaws, consensus-based decision-making, etc.
Money is fucking scary. I really feel that way. But let's see if we are
strong enough to control it, rather than the other way around, provided we
one day have enough cash to worry about its sauron-like influences
David
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Would
like to return to the idea that we should be generating other
revenue
streams into the picture of whatever standardized
reporting format we
choose.
The simplest, most efficient, and most rewarding revenue stream is
if members sign up for auto pay of their membership dues.
That's really all there is to it.
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5:38 p.m.
New subject: Dealing with funding
At one point a while back there seemed to be pretty strong consensus that we intended to
expand beyond membership dues only. there has been talk of all sorts of possible revenue
streams like a public-facing 3D print shop, lockers, selling electronics kits, etc over
the year. I'm thinking about this more because I intend to follow through on
designing one of those kits, and want to do things openly per whatever accountability
standards apply to using the sudo room name and we should indeed have those standards in
writing. I think of this as being akin to having a conflict resolution procedure prior to
conflicts occurring rather than making it up on the fly, and having documents detailing
our entire budget will be needed one way or the other. May as well just build a space for
project and program revenue into the reporting system in my opinion.
cheers,
hol
Nov 17, 2013 04:30:37 PM, dkeenan44(a)gmail.com wrote:
I agree with batkid - and marc, in spirit - but I think it IS okay to accept recurring
monies, we just have to be prepared to not compromise on any principles - if this
hypothetical/non-hypothetical grant/donation-giving entity or entities defund us,
that's their prerogative. If they try to influence us, then it's up to refuse
their money at that time, or tell them to f off.
The simplest, most efficient, and most rewarding
revenue stream is
if members sign up for auto pay of their
membership dues.
That's really all there is to it.
_______________________________________________
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sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org
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>_______________________________________________
>sudo-discuss mailing list
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In other words, it's on us to keep a grip on our
principles, and not let outside forces unduly influence us...we do this through statements
of principle, bylaws, consensus-based decision-making, etc.
Money is fucking scary. I really feel that way. But
let's see if we are strong enough to control it, rather than the other way around,
provided we one day have enough cash to worry about its sauron-like influences
David
On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 3:44 PM, The Batkid batkid(a)gmx.com> wrote:
Would like to
return to the idea that we should be generating other revenue
streams into the picture of whatever standardized reporting format we choose.
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