Be there before and or after the Rally+March at the Lake. Thanks!
Yar <yardenack(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 4:09 PM, Somebody <somebody(a)riseup.net> wrote:
>> Just "curioso".
>
>A lot of conversations are still happening. We're going to have even
>more conversations at tomorrow's hackathon. Look forward to seeing you
>there. :)
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On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 4:09 PM, Somebody <somebody(a)riseup.net> wrote:
> Just "curioso".
A lot of conversations are still happening. We're going to have even
more conversations at tomorrow's hackathon. Look forward to seeing you
there. :)
Just "curioso".
Hol Gaskill <hol(a)gaskill.com> wrote:
>i have to disagree on that assessment - if it's under closed loop control, it should be shut off once it reaches a certain temperature well below failure temp. if the thermistor reading is lagged significantly behind the temperature of the heating element then it will ramp up past the high temp each cycle for a period of time even with the thermistor functioning perfectly. not sure on conductivity of jb weld but i'd bet a 6 that pack thermal grease (either 'arctic cool' type or lithium grease) will solve the problem.
>
>on May 01, 2014, Jake <jake(a)spaz.org> wrote:
>>once the resistor gets hotter than it should, it probably burns away >whatever paste is conducting its heat to the block, and runs away, so of >course there is no thermal glue there now..>>I believe putting a cyindrical resistor in a cylindrical hole in an >aluminum block is a recipe for disaster, unless you have magic thermal >glue that is also pliable, since everything is expanding and contracting >with every thermal cycle.>>I don't have any reason to believe there's anything wrong with the >thermistor, which is the temperature sensor.>>i'll probably be there on saturday. Do you know if JB weld is a good >choice for gluing the resistor in place?>>-jake>>On Thu, 1 May 2014, Hol Gaskill wrote:>>> just popped by the space and noticed the air gap - should probably use >> some kind of high temp thermal grease. my bet is that the heater was >> getting significantly above max temp but that heat wasn't getting >> conducted into the block and into the thermistor. i'll check mine and >> bri
> ng in on saturday for omni hackathon with a side of 3ding - will you >> be around? would also like to learn how to work with thermistors.>>>> cheers>>>> on May 01, 2014, Jake <jake(a)spaz.org> wrote:>>> if the TAZ we has now has the 2.0 schnozzle then it might use the 4.7 ohm >resistor>as seen here:>http://www.lulzbot.com/products/heat-resistor-47-ohm>>of course the printer will work with a different resistor as long as it >provides>enough heat to print. Worst case we have to insert M220 S50 to >slow it down to half>speed printing until we get a better resistor...>>what value resistors do you have?>any special glue?>>On Thu, 1 May 2014, Hol Gaskill wrote:>>> this is what i pull>up for the part - 6.8 ohm:>> http://www.lulzbot.com/products/heat-resistor-68-ohm>>>> sounds like the most common reason for these failing is over temp from miscalibrated>thermistor>- i did find those 3 i got for the type a machine and if it's the same>part i'll>bring them in.>>>> on May 01, 2014, Jake <jake@sp
> az.org> wrote:>>> so i spent all evening (and some of last night) to finally spool up the>>gigantic>pile of black filament for the TAZ 3D printer.>>i finally got it hung from>the wall>with a!> dust cover over it and ready to >feed smoothly into the printer, and then>i discovered>that the heating >element in its extruder head is dead.>>oh well.>>so,>we need a>new resistor to go in there. I don't know what the original >spec is, but>since the>whole thing runs on 24VDC and assuming 24 watts of >heat, that would be>a 24 ohm>resistor or so.>>Is someone other than me interested in contacting Lulzbot>and asking>>whether they want to send us a new resistor, or if they can tell us what>>part number>of resistor we should get as a replacement?>>-jake>>P.S. yes i tested>the resistor>and it's dead, infinite ohms, it's burned >out. When we get a replacement>we can>glue it in there better than they >apparently did. If the glue goes bad it>dies.>>>>>>
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so i spent all evening (and some of last night) to finally spool up the
gigantic pile of black filament for the TAZ 3D printer.
i finally got it hung from the wall with a dust cover over it and ready to
feed smoothly into the printer, and then i discovered that the heating
element in its extruder head is dead.
oh well.
so, we need a new resistor to go in there. I don't know what the original
spec is, but since the whole thing runs on 24VDC and assuming 24 watts of
heat, that would be a 24 ohm resistor or so.
Is someone other than me interested in contacting Lulzbot and asking
whether they want to send us a new resistor, or if they can tell us what
part number of resistor we should get as a replacement?
-jake
P.S. yes i tested the resistor and it's dead, infinite ohms, it's burned
out. When we get a replacement we can glue it in there better than they
apparently did. If the glue goes bad it dies.
On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 3:15 PM, Marina Kukso <marina.kukso(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> would someone be willing to catch the list up on what the current situation
> is with the omni and what needs to be discussed and/or decided tonight?
Sorry for the late reply!
There has been a growing consensus that Omni things should move faster
than originally planned. At this meeting, we ratified and affirmed the
consensus that has been called for repeatedly over the past few weeks:
* We affirmed our commitment to the Omni project
* In particular, we committed to paying our first/last/deposit to the
Omni project
* Finally, we decided that should happen sooner than May 15 (the date
suggested last week)
We did this all with a keen mindfulness towards the process. It was a
difficult discussion, but we took into account the text of our
articles, all previous conversations in the community, and our human
understanding of the situation. We concluded that not only was last
night's meeting empowered to make this decision, but it was pressing.
The votes were unanimous, with quorums of 12-15 voting members (some
people left partway through).
Please note this doesn't commit us to particular details or
arrangements, only our confidence that those will be worked out. There
is still a lot more to decide, particularly with Counter Culture Labs
at our unconference/hackathon/thingamabob this weekend, which everyone
interested should attend. :)
Now that sudoroom is moving to a bigger space, would there be any interest
in
https://groups.freecycle.org/group/oaklandfreecycle/posts/39254461/Hammond%…
If not, perhaps one of the other new residents of the Omni?
Thought about it for myself, but don't think I can fit it down the stairs
of my house to the music room.
It's at Alameda High School, and they'd like to get it out of there soon,
but there doesn't appear to be any real deadline.
It's a Hammond Concorde, but not sure of the specific model number.
Probably needs a bit of restoration (replace some capacitors and fix some
broken keys) to make it deluxe, but it could be a really cool addition.
If you are interested, please contact serenadietrich(a)comcast.net and
jrandell(a)alameda.k12.ca.us. The email address in the freecycle ad is wrong.
--
-steve
The following additions to the sudo room articles of association are
proposed. They are hereby announced an the mailing list and we will make a
decision on whether to adopt these additions at the sudo room meeting on
wednesday may 7th.
== Section 2.1b Process for becoming a member ==
* To become a member, a person must submit a brief written or spoken
Declaration of Intent to Join where they answer the following questions:
** Why do you want to be a member of sudo room?
** What are you excited about hacking at sudo room?
** What are you excited about sharing with sudo room?
* It is only possible to become a member at the weekly sudo room meeting.
Prospective new members should attend if possible but can submit a written
declaration if they are not able to attend.
* At the sudo room weekly meeting, all prospective members must leave the
room while the existing members have a chance to bring up any concerns or
reasons why the prospective member should not be allowed membership (This
shall be referred to as the Initial Pondering).
** The intent is for it to be very easy for new members to join, so only
very serious concerns should be brought up.
** If any existing member objects to a prospective new member becoming a
member, and this cannot be resolved through discussion, then the
prospective member will not be allowed membership.
** Unreasonable or frequent blocking of new members by an existing member
is grounds for immediate termination of membership based on a 2/3 vote.
* After the Initial Pondering, if there are no objections, the member
becomes a partial member, which means that they have all rights that
membership confers, except the following:
** The right to participate in decisionmaking at the sudo room weekly
meeting.
** The right to throw non-members or sleepers out of sudo room.
* Partial members must be introduced to sudo room's values and be given a
tour of the space after or during the sudo room weekly meeting where they
became partial members, of if they are not present, at their earliest
convenience.
* New partial members must be communicated to the sudo rooom mailing list
within 24 hours, including their Decleration of Intent to Join.
* After becoming a partial member, there will be one week for sudo room
members to raise objections as to why the partial member should not be
allowed to join (This shall be referred to as the Extended Pondering). If
objections occur and cannot be resolved through discussion, then the
partial member will loose their partial membership and they will be
refunded any paid memberships fees or dues.
* If after the Extended Pondering there are no unresolved objections, the
partial member automatically becomes a full member. No announcement of this
change of status is necessary.
= Article 5. Empowerment of members =
== Section 5.1 Non-member access ==
* To empower members to deal with problematic non-members:
** Any member may deny non-members access to sudo room assets (and require
the non-member in question to vacate the physical space) at any time, with
no reason given, unless some other member currently present in the space is
willing to vouch for the non-member in question as a guest.
** Before denying a non-member access (and requiring the non-member in
question to vacate the physical space), the member must ask both the
non-member and the members present in the space if any member is vouching
for the non-member as a guest.
** For a non-member, being denied access (and required to vacate the
physical space) is not a ban, and the non-member in question may return
after 12 hours.
== Section 5.2 Domestic Use ==
The bay area is in the throes of a housing crisis. Despite the abundance of
resources (space, buildings, etc), the distribution of those resources is
unfair. For many it can be costly and difficult to fulfill the basic human
need of shelter. However, sudo room, as a creative community and hacker
space, must maintain a division between habitation and usage of the space.
As such the following are resolved:
* Sudo room is not intended to be used for habitation or domestic purposes.
* No-one is allowed to sleep in sudo room at any time.
* Any member can require that anyone sleeping in sudo room must leave
immediately.
* Repeated sleeping at sudo room is grounds for being temporarily or
permanently denied access to sudo room's assets, including its physical
space.
Hey all,
I'm working on a series of upgrades for the website. Testing out a new
wordpress theme and event management / calendaring plugin on our
development site. Please take a look:
http://dev.sudoroom.org/
I plan to have www.sudoroom.org direct users to a landing page on this
site, with clear donation and calendar information, rather than directing
them to the wiki (as it does now).
I'll also need a few people to help migrate content, is anyone interested?
No coding skills required, just copying old event information into the new
event form so we can preserve the historical data.
// Matt
I had sent this out to the Omni Logistics group earlier. If anyone would
like me to go over any of this at the meeting this evening, let me know...
Patrik
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Patrik D'haeseleer <patrikd(a)gmail.com>
Date: Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 5:44 AM
Subject: Price calculations
To: omnilogistics(a)lists.riseup.net
Hi all,
I've fleshed out my rate calculations for $/sqft of dedicated space, and
for use of the shared space. Details are in my spreadsheet and on the wiki:
http://wiki.omni-oakland.org/w/Building#Price.2FSq_Fthttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17DINigEczGwjfTdmdxl-MpYe1KJzJJDeCHR…
There's a lot of details, but in the end it boils down to (1) you pay a
fixed rate for any dedicated space you'd like to claim (including storage
space etc.), and (2) you pay some "share" towards use of the resources of
the shared space.
I know, this is a big departure from the "offer what you can afford, and
ask for whatever space you'd like" approach we've been taking so far. But I
do feel we need something like this, to make our pricing scheme fair and
transparent.
Two big discrepancies, when comparing with how much rent different groups
have pledged:
- The Cafe covers a large amount of high-quality space - and should be a
potential money-maker for the space. However, right now it's only penciled
in as contributing $1500 to the rent.
- Oakland Nights Live wants to host a large event in the Ballroom once a
month, but have only committed to $100 in rent so far.
I definitely don't want to pick on these two groups, and I would love to
see these be part of the Omni. But it does point out that we need to work
with them to make sure that what they propose makes financial sense as
well. E.g. If we put a bit more effort into fundraising during the Oakland
Nights Live events (even just asking for donations, and/or selling
T-shirts), there's no reason we couldn't make these self-sufficient.
Patrik
Things are happening very quickly and tonight's Sudoroom meeting is
going to be important. If you are interested in the process of our
move or reboot, or have feelings and opinions about any of it, coming
to this meeting would be a good idea.
Counter-Culture Labs will also be meeting at the same space and there
will be opportunities (like last week) for us to talk together about
the many details involved in potentially sharing the space at the
Omni.
P.S. Cross-posting to sudo-announce, but please only reply on sudo-discuss.
https://sudoroom.org/
We have a new calendar system that allows for booking events. This has
always been a struggle with sudo room activities. However, we have not yet
made the transition to this new system as we need a bit of volunteer help
to groom events from the old system.
Let me know if you could lend a hand.
// Matt
FYI
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Matthew Senate <mattsenate(a)gmail.com>
Date: Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 6:20 PM
Subject: Re: [omnilogistics] [Critical Proposal] Omni Hackathon
To: omnilogistics(a)lists.riseup.net
Cc: omni-announce(a)lists.riseup.net
Hey all,
We'll discuss this proposal at the next Omni meeting on Thursday May 1
(technically starting at 6:30pm), but so far there no one has shared any
reasons not to go forward with:
Omni Hackathon
May 3 - 4 (Sat - Sun)
2141 Broadway, Oakland, CA
Please add to the agenda:
http://wiki.omni-oakland.org/w/Event:2014/05/03_Omni_Hackathon
My original message explaining the situation:
We need to spend some serious in-person time on the various omni proposals.
> There are too many options, and we have done too little information sharing
> across all our groups.
>
> I'd like to discuss on this email thread, and at the next Omni meeting,
> that we throw an Omni Hackathon to collaborate with all of the
> member-groups and harmonize our various proposals (finance, space
> allocation, governance, etc). I'm suggesting we have no further luxury than
> holding the event:
>
> May 3 - 4 in the BAPS / Sudo common space.
>
See the calendar for more information: wiki.omni-oakland.org/w/Calendar
// Matt
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 6:48 PM, Jenny Ryan <tunabananas(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
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>> Intelligence wrote:
>> > Live Space will have at least 1-2 people who can come to write and work
>> over the weekend. What hours are you all thinking about?
>> >
>> > mg
>> >
>>
>> Awesome! The common space at 2141 Broadway is free all weekend. We can
>> make lots of sudo mate <https://sudoroom.org/wiki/sudomate> and bring
>> snacks.
>>
>> The wiki event page is here to add topic suggestions and begin creating
>> an agenda:
>> http://wiki.omni-oakland.org/w/Event:2014/05/03_Omni_Hackathon
>>
>> I've added a few topics and an agenda skeleton to get us started.
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Hi Everyone,
<http://localwiki.org/>
LocalWiki <http://localwiki.org>, the nonprofit that helps grow
community-based wikis like Oakland Wiki <http://oaklandwiki.org> (which
started and is based out of sudo), is moving. We're a very tiny nonprofit
(only two of us on staff) and we're looking for donated office space
(really just two desks).
If you know anyone with spare office space who might be interested in
hosting us, please contact us! We're pretty happy to go anywhere in the Bay
Area.
Best,
Marina Kukso
Managing Director, LocalWiki <http://localwiki.org>
i made a spreadsheet to calculate proportional cost sharing for a space
with private and common space:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AktkZZru71ymdEFUSUtCSnQ5TXFfaE…
anyone with the link above can edit the spreadsheet. please feel free to
make changes to get a feel for how it works, but put things back with undo
unless you've made improvements.
feel free to fork it by making your own copy of it, either on google drive
or by downloading it as a file and playing with it in a program such as
libreoffice.
the way it works is that you start by entering in the total monthly costs
that the omni collective is going to need to come up with. Like many
things in life, this number is something we can't directly control so we
enter it in as a given.
the next info we enter are the various rooms/spaces that we predict might
become sectioned off for non-common uses. We enter the dimensions or
square footage of those rooms and the other numbers change to reflect the
proportion of total space used by those rooms / subcollectives / groups.
the other thing we can adjust is the "percentage of costs shared equally"
because simply using the actual percentage of space that is not private
may not result in equitable costs-sharing among the groups. So while
actual percentage is calculated and displayed, the number we use to
calculate cost sharing is something you can type in whatever you want.
I put in 40% to see what it would come up with.
do you think this is helpful?
-jake
Hey all,
Please forward this message:
Oakland Night's Live and Bay Area Public School are hosting a screening of
*The Waiting Room*
Mon 4/28, 7pm-10pm
BAPS / Sudo Room Common Space
https://sudoroom.org/ai1ec_event/the-waiting-room-a-film-screening/?instanc…
Update:
Cynthia Johnson, the most charismatic member of the Highland Hospital ER
staff featured in *The Waiting Room, *will join us for the showing. She can
discuss the film and what it depicts to screening attendees.
Hope to see you there,
Matt
Hey all,
Just posted a draft floor plan proposal to the Omni email lists, which
needs vast improvement, you can see it here:
http://wiki.omni-oakland.org/w/Floorplan#Proposals
I also wanted to share a sketch of what CCL and Sudo Room could do with the
bocce ball court in order to contain the CCL lab areas, ensure they are
dust free and secure, and connect to the existing plumbing and water lines.
I suggest CCL enclose two rooms and use a staircase to turn the roof of the
rooms into a lounge. The rest of the space would contain sudo room. Curious
to hear what ya'll think!
http://wiki.omni-oakland.org/w/Bocce_ball_court
// Matt
thanks so much jenny!
On Saturday, April 26, 2014, Noemie Serfaty <noemieserfaty(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> It is mine... It has an old sudo room sticker on it... I'm such a
> scatterer... I'm feeling lucky to be surrounded by gatherers!
> <3
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 1:43 AM, Jenny Ryan <tunabananas(a)gmail.com<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','tunabananas(a)gmail.com');>
> > wrote:
>
>> Ah! I meant to post about this, then didn't want to so publicly announce
>> it. I found 2 macbook chargers and an Apple USB charger at the end of the
>> night Thursday and put them in a slim cardboard box with blue tape on it
>> that says "i-thingies".
>>
>> I may have left it on the table in Sudo, or Chris stashed it somewhere in
>> Sudo.
>>
>> Noemie, is the other one yours?
>> On Apr 26, 2014 3:06 PM, "David Keenan" <dkeenan44(a)gmail.com<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','dkeenan44(a)gmail.com');>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> If anyone sees it, can you stash it in the BAPS room?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> David
>>>
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>
>
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Sent from my iPhone
Begin forwarded message:
> From: Romy Ilano <romy.ilano(a)gmail.com>
> Date: April 26, 2014 at 12:47:51 PM PDT
> To: Romy Ilano <romy(a)snowyla.com>
> Subject: The Tyranny of Stuctureless
>
>
> http://www.jofreeman.com/joreen/tyranny.htm
>
> The Tyranny of Stuctureless
>
> The basic problems didn't appear until individual rap groups exhausted the virtues of consciousness-raising and decided they wanted to do something more specific. At this point they usually foundered because most groups were unwilling to change their structure when they changed their tasks. Women had thoroughly accepted the idea of "structurelessness" without realizing the limitations of its uses. People would try to use the "structureless" group and the informal conference for purposes for which they were unsuitable out of a blind belief that no other means could possibly be anything but oppressive.If the movement is to grow beyond these elementary stages of development, it will have to disabuse itself of some of its prejudices about organization and structure. There is nothing inherently bad about either of these. They can be and often are misused, but to reject them out of hand because they are misused is to deny ourselves the necessary tools to further development. We need to understand why "structurelessness" does not work.
>
> FORMAL AND INFORMAL STRUCTURES
>
> Contrary to what we would like to believe, there is no such thing as a structureless group. Any group of people of whatever nature that comes together for any length of time for any purpose will inevitably structure itself in some fashion. The structure may be flexible; it may vary over time; it may evenly or unevenly distribute tasks, power and resources over the members of the group. But it will be formed regardless of the abilities, personalities, or intentions of the people involved. The very fact that we are individuals, with different talents, predispositions, and backgrounds makes this inevitable. Only if we refused to relate or interact on any basis whatsoever could we approximate structurelessness -- and that is not the nature of a human group.This means that to strive for a structureless group is as useful, and as deceptive, as to aim at an "objective" news story, "value-free" social science, or a "free" economy. A "laissez faire" group is about as realistic as a "laissez faire" society; the idea becomes a smokescreen for the strong or the lucky to establish unquestioned hegemony over others. This hegemony can be so easily established because the idea of "structurelessness" does not prevent the formation of informal structures, only formal ones. Similarly "laissez faire" philosophy did not prevent the economically powerful from establishing control over wages, prices, and distribution of goods; it only prevented the government from doing so. Thus structurelessness becomes a way of masking power, and within the women's movement is usually most strongly advocated by those who are the most powerful (whether they are conscious of their power or not). As long as the structure of the group is informal, the rules of how decisions are made are known only to a few and awareness of power is limited to those who know the rules. Those who do not know the rules and are not chosen for initiation must remain in confusion, or suffer from paranoid delusions that something is happening of which they are not quite aware.
>
> For everyone to have the opportunity to be involved in a given group and to participate in its activities the structure must be explicit, not implicit. The rules of decision-making must be open and available to everyone, and this can happen only if they are formalized. This is not to say that formalization of a structure of a group will destroy the informal structure. It usually doesn't. But it does hinder the informal structure from having predominant control and make available some means of attacking it if the people involved are not at least responsible to the needs of the group at large. "Structurelessness" is organizationally impossible. We cannot decide whether to have a structured or structureless group, only whether or not to have a formally structured one. Therefore the word will not be used any longer except to refer to the idea it represents. Unstructured will refer to those groups which have not been deliberately structured in a particular manner. Structured will refer to those which have. A Structured group always has formal structure, and may also have an informal, or covert, structure. It is this informal structure, particularly in Unstructured groups, which forms the basis for elites.
>
> THE NATURE OF ELITISM
>
> "Elitist" is probably the most abused word in the women's liberation movement. It is used as frequently, and for the same reasons, as "pinko" was used in the fifties. It is rarely used correctly. Within the movement it commonly refers to individuals, though the personal characteristics and activities of those to whom it is directed may differ widely: An individual, as an individual can never be an elitist, because the only proper application of the term "elite" is to groups. Any individual, regardless of how well-known that person may be, can never be an elite.Correctly, an elite refers to a small group of people who have power over a larger group of which they are part, usually without direct responsibility to that larger group, and often without their knowledge or consent. A person becomes an elitist by being part of, or advocating the rule by, such a small group, whether or not that individual is well known or not known at all. Notoriety is not a definition of an elitist. The most insidious elites are usually run by people not known to the larger public at all. Intelligent elitists are usually smart enough not to allow themselves to become well known; when they become known, they are watched, and the mask over their power is no longer firmly lodged.Elites are not conspiracies. Very seldom does a small group of people get together and deliberately try to take over a larger group for its own ends. Elites are nothing more, and nothing less, than groups of friends who also happen to participate in the same political activities. They would probably maintain their friendship whether or not they were involved in political activities; they would probably be involved in political activities whether or not they maintained their friendships. It is the coincidence of these two phenomena which creates elites in any group and makes them so difficult to break.These friendship groups function as networks of communication outside any regular channels for such communication that may have been set up by a group. If no channels are set up, they function as the only networks of communication. Because people are friends, because they usually share the same values and orientations, because they talk to each other socially and consult with each other when common decisions have to be made, the people involved in these networks have more power in the group than those who don't. And it is a rare group that does not establish some informal networks of communication through the friends that are made in it.Some groups, depending on their size, may have more than one such informal communications network. Networks may even overlap. When only one such network exists, it is the elite of an otherwise Unstructured group, whether the participants in it want to be elitists or not. If it is the only such network in a Structured group it may or may not be an elite depending on its composition and the nature of the formal Structure. If there are two or more such networks of friends, they may compete for power within the group, thus forming factions, or one may deliberately opt out of the competition, leaving the other as the elite. In a Structured group, two or more such friendship networks usually compete with each other for formal power. This is often the healthiest situation, as the other members are in a position to arbitrate between the two competitors for power and thus to make demands on those to whom they give their temporary allegiance.The inevitably elitist and exclusive nature of informal communication networks of friends is neither a new phenomenon characteristic of the women's movement nor a phenomenon new to women. Such informal relationships have excluded women for centuries from participating in integrated groups of which they were a part. In any profession or organization these networks have created the "locker room" mentality and the "old school" ties which have effectively prevented women as a group (as well as some men individually) from having equal access to the sources of power or social reward. Much of the energy of past women's movements has been directed to having the structures of decision-making and the selection processes formalized so that the exclusion of women could be confronted directly. As we well know, these efforts have not prevented the informal male-only networks from discriminating against women, but they have made it more difficult.Because elites are informal does not mean they are invisible. At any small group meeting anyone with a sharp eye and an acute ear can tell who is influencing whom. The members of a friendship group will relate more to each other than to other people. They listen more attentively, and interrupt less; they repeat each other's points and give in amiably; they tend to ignore or grapple with the "outs" whose approval is not necessary for making a decision. But it is necessary for the "outs" to stay on good terms with the "ins." Of course the lines are not as sharp as I have drawn them. They are nuances of interaction, not prewritten scripts. But they are discernible, and they do have their effect. Once one knows with whom it is important to check before a decision is made, and whose approval is the stamp of acceptance, one knows who is running things.Since movement groups have made no concrete decisions about who shall exercise power within them, many different criteria are used around the country. Most criteria are along the lines of traditional female characteristics. For instance, in the early days of the movement, marriage was usually a prerequisite for participation in the informal elite. As women have been traditionally taught, married women relate primarily to each other, and look upon single women as too threatening to have as close friends. In many cities, this criterion was further refined to include only those women married to New Left men. This standard had more than tradition behind it, however, because New Left men often had access to resources needed by the movement -- such as mailing lists, printing presses, contacts, and information -- and women were used to getting what they needed through men rather than independently. As the movement has charged through time, marriage has become a less universal criterion for effective participation, but all informal elites establish standards by which only women who possess certain material or personal characteristics may join. They frequently include: middle-class background (despite all the rhetoric about relating to the working class); being married; not being married but living with someone; being or pretending to be a lesbian; being between the ages of twenty and thirty; being college educated or at least having some college background; being "hip"; not being too "hip"; holding a certain political line or identification as a "radical"; having children or at least liking them; not having children; having certain "feminine" personality characteristics such as being "nice"; dressing right (whether in the traditional style or the antitraditional style); etc. There are also some characteristics which will almost always tag one as a "deviant" who should not be related to. They include: being too old; working full time, particularly if one is actively committed to a "career"; not being "nice"; and being avowedly single (i.e., neither actively heterosexual nor homosexual).Other criteria could be included, but they all have common themes. The characteristics prerequisite for participating in the informal elites of the movement, and thus for exercising power, concern one's background, personality, or allocation of time. They do not include one's competence, dedication to feminism, talents, or potential contribution to the movement. The former are the criteria one usually uses in determining one's friends. The latter are what any movement or organization has to use if it is going to be politically effective.The criteria of participation may differ from group to group, but the means of becoming a member of the informal elite if one meets those criteria art pretty much the same. The only main difference depends on whether one is in a group from the beginning, or joins it after it has begun. If involved from the beginning it is important to have as many of one's personal friends as possible also join. If no one knows anyone else very well, then one must deliberately form friendships with a select number and establish the informal interaction patterns crucial to the creation of an informal structure. Once the informal patterns are formed they act to maintain themselves, and one of the most successful tactics of maintenance is to continuously recruit new people who "fit in." One joins such an elite much the same way one pledges a sorority. If perceived as a potential addition, one is "rushed" by the members of the informal structure and eventually either dropped or initiated. If the sorority is not politically aware enough to actively engage in this process itself it can be started by the outsider pretty much the same way one joins any private club. Find a sponsor, i.e., pick some member of the elite who appears to be well respected within it, and actively cultivate that person's friendship. Eventually, she will most likely bring you into the inner circle.
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> Sent from my iPhone
if you are interested in printing at sudoroom, whether it's 2D
conventional printing or new 3D printing, please join the sudo-prints
email list.
https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-prints
i'm about to post a message on that list about the TAZ Lulzbot 3D printer
that we recently got. it's good news.
also, if you know anything about any of the printers at sudoroom, you
should join this list. Soon all the sudoroom printers will have labels on
them that say "Email sudo-prints(a)lists.sudoroom.org for information about
how to use this printer!"
if you just want to raed the list, i suppose you can just click here:
https://lists.sudoroom.org/pipermail/sudo-prints/
-jake
Spark Art is across 22nd St. from 2141 Broadway.
> AWS Oakland -
>
> We are looking forward to seeing everyone on Thursday, April 24th at 7:00 hosted at Sparkart where:
>
> Sami Zuhuruddin, Amazon Web Services Solutions Architect, will be presenting “Scaling on AWS for the First 10 Million Users”.
>
> Matt Trescot, StudyBlue’s Head of Operations, will be presenting how StudyBlue uses Stackdriver to monitor their AWS resources as they rapidly approach the 10 million user mark.
>
> The address is 2201 Broadway Ste 100, Oakland, CA.
>
> AWS will be providing pizza (vegetarian included) and refreshments (Beer, Soda, & Water).
>
> Please remember to RSVP on the AWS-Oakland Meetup site.
>
> The more the merrier,
> AWS Oakland Team
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>
fyi. kindred spirits of sudo mesh.
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Date: Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 10:45 AM
Subject: [personal-clouds] First Indie Box Meetup
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The Indie Box Project is planning our first Indie Box Meetup:
on May 12, 2014
from 6:30-8:00pm
at the Hacker Dojo in Mountain View, CA
price: free
registration: http://bit.ly/1lJoDyx
If you want to talk Indie Box, Personal Clouds, and anything related, come
by! We're probably have a couple demos, and discuss how you run your own
web applications at home. Or write apps for Indie Box that you and others
can use.
Bring your own hardware and we'll work on getting Indie Box software
running on it. (x86, Raspberry Pi, and the like)
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Hey all,
What does it mean to have a sudo reboot? What do we see? What do we want to
put our energy and effort towards?
We've come a long way. I'd like to start a thread just hearing what folks
think about rebooting sudo room.
*If you had a chance to re-write sudo room from scratch, what would would
you do differently?*
We now have something like this chance.
Hi all!
I just sent you an email about the freedom from full-time event at Hotel
Zorba on the 29th <http://www.nowsf.org/#!schedule/cee5>. One of the
speakers, Chris Carlsson, is going to inquire with folks he knows to see if
they'd be interested in doing a panel discussion at 2141. If you're
interested in connecting with these folks and talking with them about what
we're doing to redefine work/productivity/contribution, I'd recommend
checking out the event!! I'm unfortunately stuck in sunny SoCal paradise
until the 5th (scroll down).
About Chris: he is kind of like a Sudoer's kindred spirit, his activism
starting in the 70s against corporate SF. He's one of the people who
published Processed World <http://processedworld.com/> (an anti-market
labor maga/zine we have copies of and will be getting more of through
Chris), is one of the cofounders of Critical Mass, and is a radical
historian and archivist. And he loves Sudo Room!
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>>Tuesday, April 27th<
>>6:30-9p<<<<<<<<<
>>Hotel Zorba <<<<<
>>1554 Fulton St.<<
>>San Francisco<<
The question "what do you do?" is a complicated one, as our answers
increasingly reflect our principles, ambitions, and our relationship with
society. Especially in the Bay Area, more companies and workers are
choosing to turn work into a lifestyle, and our constant connectivity blurs
the distinction between our personal and professional lives. If handled
well, this can empower us as individuals and stimulate our creativity and
citizenship; if not it can stifle us and harm our communities.
Featured guests, who will share their perspectives on these trends,
include:
Chris Carlsson, long-time SF activist and author. www.chriscarlsson.com
Brian Bugh, systems engineer and techno-philosopher. http://brianbugh.me/
Kendra Shanley, co-founder of Bay Bucks and advocate for a New Economy.
www.baybucks.com
...and YOU! Participation from all in attendance is welcome and encouraged.
This event is partially inspired by a recent article in the SF Bay
Guardian, which explores the idea that working less may be one reasonable
solution to climate change. We will investigate this idea while extending
well beyond it. http://en-us.www.sfbg.com/2014/04/15/save-world-work-less
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From: Jonathan Youtt <jyoutt(a)gmail.com>
Date: Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 6:40 PM
Subject: [spaghettinight] Open House @ PLACE for Sustainable Living :
Sunday April 27th 3pm-7pm
To: The Spaghetti Night mailing list <spaghettinight(a)tentacle.net>
*PLACE for Sustainable Living* is a volunteer-run public-serving,
experiential learning center showcasing and fostering sustainable living
practices, urban homesteading, community resiliency & preparedness, social
justice and artistic expression.
We are hosting an Open House in order to highlight some of the
accomplishments in our first 3 years, outline the expanded vision and
identify the different ways that you can participate. We are excited to
announce that after three years building out PLACE for Sustainable Living,
we have secured a new five year lease. This lease will enable us to
continue building our collective vision of a dynamic educational center for
urban sustainability and regenerative practices.
DATE: Sunday, April 27, 2014
TIME: 3:00pm - 7:00pm (Stone soup supper is: 6-7pm)
WHERE: *PLACE for Sustainable Living*
1121 64th Street near San Pablo Ave & Alcatraz Ave,
Oakland, CA 94608
http://aplaceforsustainableliving.org/https://www.facebook.com/oakleyville
PLACE will continue to serve our educational and sustainability showcase
goals, and our newly formed cooperative, Oakleyville will grow its
membership into a multi-stakeholder cooperative serving its Workers, Makers
and the Community at large. Please join us as we enter the next chapter of
this co-creative place.
*SUN, 4/27/14 OPEN HOUSE Schedule:*
3:00-3:30 pm — Meet & Greet (some snacks & tea)
3:30-4:45 pm — Presentations: PLACE, Oakleyville Cooperative, & Affiliate
Groups
4:45-5:30 pm — Breakout sessions for PLACE Pods*(see below)
5:30-6:00 pm — Site Tour
6:00-7:00 pm — Stone Soup + Report backs from breakouts and next steps
Stay after the open house for our regular monthly Final Sunday Music Jam
from 7:00-10:00pm
STONE SOUP: If you wish to drop off any veggies for the soup prior to the
open house, email us at: info(a)aplaceforsustainableliving.org with “Stone
Soup” in the subject line.
*PLACE Pods are smaller organizing groups with special functions of PLACE
and Oakleyville. They include the following: Education (Youth & Adults),
Programs (Partnerships, neighborhood activism, placemaking), Admin/Org
Development, BUZZ (Marketing Comm.), Site Permaculture Design, Events,
Facilities, Fundraising, Urban Gardening, Hearth, & Volunteering
SAVE THE DATE: We will also be celebrating this good news at our upcoming
three-year anniversary event: Creating Commons Festival, Saturday, May 10,
2014.
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Made me think about Sudo Mesh...
http://vimeo.com/92252467
"Ripple explores how information is propagated across loosely coupled
networks with no central controller. The installation mimics the way ants
communicate in the sense that information is relayed to the nearest
neighbor only, as opposed to being broadcast to all participants. Where the
ants use pheromones and touch as the message medium, Ripple uses infrared
signals. The invisible infrared communication between the nodes is
translated to visible light by each node so that viewers can get a glimpse
of how information travels across a network when each node can only
communicate with its immediate neighbors. Viewers may further interact with
the installation by breaking the "line of sight" between the nodes there by
blocking or reflecting the IR signals causing information to be lost or
distorted."
--Andrew
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Andrew Lowe
Cell: 831-332-2507
http://roshambomedia.com
I found the Type-A sitting by the window, where it was not attached to
any computer. It seems that whoever moved it decided that people have
to hook up their own laptops in order to use it? Was that the idea? Or
am I missing something? I personally prefer having it attached to the
desk computer so that I can ssh from my laptop while sitting at the
table. So I moved it back.
Also, who took the SD card out of the TAZ? Can you please tell us where it is?
Hey Sudo!
Not sure if you know it is Oakland Veg week! April 21-27 www.oaklandveg.com
So Vegetarians and Vegans do awesome things ALL week!
WEEK LONG EVENTS GO TO
http://oaklandveg.com/events/
The event I am inviting you to is SATURDAY APRIL 26
SF Bay Area Grass Valley Trip
I would love to gather a group of Sudoers to attend this year!
If you look on the www.oaklandveg.com/events
You will see Me with my boyfriend Nikolas the COW! I can't wait to see him
again this year!
If you want to come hang out in Grass Valley and chat about sustainable
ways to improve all life on this lovely planet please join me!
It is $30 on the site but through Oakland Veg week you get $10 off!
So $20 for a nice air conditioned ride on a bus up to Grass Valley,life
time of memories, tons of photos, and really good free vegan food! PLUS you
can meet more people who are passionate about all forms of life.
I am going and would love to have some Sudoers join me! Call/Text/Email if
you are down!
Check out the meetup with more detail
http://www.meetup.com/vegetarians/events/177381222/?a=ea1_grp&rv=ea1
-Liberty
415.937.3785
Hi Sudoers,
I'd like to tell you about a new hackerspace that I'm helping to form in the East Bay. It's called HayHackers, and it'll be located in Hayward. Why Hayward you may ask? Well because there aren't any in the area. The closest hackerspaces are in Oakland, Mountain View, and Livermore, but nothing really covering the Hayward, San Leandro, Union City, Newark, Fremont, Castro Valley, and Dublin area. We're right in the center of this area. There's also Cal State East Bay, Chabot and Ohlone community colleges.
Being located in a more suburban community, we'd also like to make this a more family-friendly community space. It'll have a section for adults and one for children / families. It'll be a collaborative workspace where people come together, share and learn, use tools such as laser printers and 3D printers, learn about technology, science, computer programming, and work on building their inventions.
Hayward could also REALLY use a general-purpose community space as well. There's nothing like it here!
We also hope to be located near a BART station, so you can come visit us anytime. We could really use your help though. Please reach out to your network of friends in the East Bay and tell them about us!
Also, as we're just starting our outreach and marketing, we will be launching our big fundraising campaign in mid-May. We could use your help and donations to lift us off the ground.
We'll be tabling at the Maker Faire on May 17 & 18th, come visit our table!
Please visit our website, watch our 1-minute video, and sign up for our newsletter:
http://hayhackers.org
If you happen to be in the Hayward area, we'll be holding a Meetup at Eko coffee in downtown Hayward, within walking distance from Hayward BART, this Thursday 4/24. There will be other meetups in case you miss this one. Please signup on our meetup page here:
http://www.meetup.com/HayHackers/
Also like our Facebook page and follow our Twitter feed if you'd like.
Let me know if you'd like to help in any way.
Thanks!
Carl G.
(frequent visitor of Sudo Room)
Some of you may know I am wiki crazy, and I would like to help create the
Omni's wiki. Only I am on holiday and am taking an e-break. Can anybody set
this up, on there own server at the moment so all that needs to be done is
point wiki.omni-oakland.org DNS to it?
I can help with tech support from the sidelines over email.
Max Klein
http://notconfusing.com/
Hey all,
For your information, there are now two Omni Collective email lists, one
for infrequent updates, and one for coordinating logistics:
announcements - omnicollective(a)lists.riseup.net -
https://lists.riseup.net/www/omnicollective
logistics / discussion / werk - omnilogistics(a)lists.riseup.net -
https://lists.riseup.net/www/omnilogistics
// Matt
Just a heads up everyone.. SR common area will be imvaded this aft by legal
aid workers. Furniture may need to get re-arranged. I am bottomlining so if
y'all have any q's, hit me up -
:)
David
Updated lease, to put it in sudo room's name. I'm requesting one change which is to list sudo room as a "public nonprofit" since we have created a state public benefit nonprofit corporation and are in the process of obtaining 501(c)3 status.
// Matt
----- Forwarded message -----
From: "Laurie Cooperman Rosen" <Lscoop(a)comcast.net>
To: "'Matthew Senate'" <mattsenate(a)gmail.com>
Cc: "'Eddan Katz'" <eddan(a)eddan.com>, "'George'" <travology(a)mindspring.com>, <isalix(a)gmail.com>
Subject: Revised lease, 2141 Broadway
Date: Fri, Apr 18, 2014 23:11
Hi Matt-Attached is the revised lease. I am also sending a revised bill, with a referral fee to you to pretty much offset the other charges. The additional $90 security deposit is the Sudo Room’s money in any case.Laurie From: Matthew Senate [mailto:mattsenate@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 10:09 PM
To: Laurie Cooperman Rosen
Cc: Eddan Katz; George
Subject: Re: 2141 Yes, I was out of town, I was off my email, I thought I caught up on it but apparently I missed some messages. I had been checking our previous thread and did not expect to see messages outside of the original thread, my mistake. I was under the impression you had my address on file from the previous lease, here it is: 359 Bellevue Ave, Oakland CA, 94610 - Matt On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 10:02 PM, Laurie Cooperman Rosen <Lscoop(a)comcast.net> wrote:Hi Matt-The lease has been held up because multiple times I have requested an address for you and you have yet to reply! We ordered a new netgear router today online from Frys which should work a better and faster. We’ll let you know when it’s installed or if there is a problem with its installation. You are under the terms of the old lease until we have agreed to the new one, and we have been trying for 2 weeks to get this settled---this is the first that I have heard from you since I started emailing you simply asking for your address!Had you replied we could have been talking about new lease terms early in the month and had it settled well before now, but somebody told me that you were out of town—maybe you weren’t picking up your emails while you were gone? Laurie From: Matthew Senate [mailto:mattsenate@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 9:39 PM
To: George; Laurie Cooperman Rosen
Subject: Re: 2141 My last message to Laurie requested a new lease under sudo room's name for this month. We provided the information needed. Just now I saw her most recent message to me (sent 5 days ago) that I missed in my inbox. Laurie suggested adding additional terms to the lease. I have not paid rent because I was waiting for the new lease. We cannot wait any longer with the lease as-is. Can we please change it to sudo room's name, and then also discuss additional terms for the lease afterward? Eddan has wanted off of the lease for months and we satisfied all of the baseline needs to make the transition. This is really important to complete ASAP, in all of our interests. Replacing the modem should not be difficult to install (just plug in the same cables as the old one). If it doesn't work, Sonic provides on-site service that should be covered by your internet service payment. - Matt On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 8:33 PM, George <travology(a)mindspring.com> wrote:We have not received rent for april you are late as usual. Also we ordered a faster modem for sonic if you can help us hook it up
Hackpacks must have hacksnacks.
What kind of emergency snack/meal/drink/tools do you always carry with you
in your hack pack? Mine are:
Drink:
Yerba mate (dried tea)
Yerba mate straw
5-hour-energy or similar
No-prep snack:
Nuts or granola bar
Meal:
Instant oatmeal packet
Ramen packet
Food-related hygiene:
Folding toothbrush
Small toothpaste
Dental floss (doubles as general purpose string)
Tools:
Collapsible silicone cup/bowl
Filtering water bottle
Spork
P-38 can opener
Knife (in multi-tool)
zip-lock bags
All of the food/drink items have in common that they don't weigh much and
don't really go bad. We usually buy these items bulk and re-fill missing
item when at home base.
I'm not sure I'm happy about the ramen (so salty) and all of the granola
bars I've tried are so sugary (bleh).
--
marc/juul who is at sudo room and just had his oatmeal
I understand the landlard entered the premises a couple of days ago and
gave folks 5 minutes to evacuate before setting off several bug bombs.
I'm pretty sure that kind of behavior is illegal without at least 24
hours notice. I haven't noticed much sign of non-landlord related vermin
in the room, but I don't spend extended amounts of time at the space.
When folks objected to this intrusion I understand that the landlord set
off one or more foggers in a garbage can, which, of course, rather
defeats the purpose, particularly since Elliot bravely (if perhaps
foolishly) took the still fuming trash can outside, I hope he's OK.
Anywho, I stopped by the room last night to drop off a bag of bread and
hung around gabbing for 20-30 minutes and noticed that my exposed skin
was burning & itching and my lungs felt weird. I think I suffered from
contact dermatitis, I took a shower as soon as I got home and threw all
of my clothes in the laundry hamper even though I'd only been wearing
them for a week or two, but I'm still feeling a bit of intermittent
tingling.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fogger
Personally, I suspect that a fair amount of the hoopla over exposure to
household chemicals is overblown, even neurotic is some cases, but given
the landlord's cavalier and abusive actions I surmise that he may have
visited during the middle of the night and set off a large number of
TRFs. Now I'm beginning to see why so many sudoers are agitating for a
change of venue. Cue the music: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVDo_Ub-s9U
So if this has not been done yet, I recommend that all utensils and
plates get washed and all surfaces get wiped down with a damp cloth.
http://insects.answers.com/pest-control/diy-pest-control-how-to-use-a-bug-b…
Clean Surfaces to Remove Residue
Upon returning to the area it is important to properly clean the
pesticide residue from all major surfaces. Counter tops, especially
those that encounter food, cookware, and/or dishes, should be wiped
thoroughly with warm soapy water. Carpets and rugs should be
vacuumed, as should any cloth furniture that was not covered prior
to fogging the area. Bedcovers, pillows, and any clothing left out
during the treatment should be washed with detergent and hot water.
Wood and tile floors should be swept and mopped to prevent pesticide
particles from being shuffled up into the air.
In the meantime, I suggest not using utensils, cups, plates, etc.
without giving them a rinse first.
While we are on the subject of landlords, pests and food, I pick up a
fair amount of bread and pizza every Friday night from a local
collective to share with the community. If there are not a lot of
demonstrations or picnics scheduled for the weekend I typically drop off
some of this bounty at the sudoroom. Is this largess welcome? Does
anyone have an opinion about how much I should deposit, say 1 bag of
bread, 10 pizzas or some such number?
The devil take all landlards (except me),
Ed
"Let's Lynch The Landlord"
The Landlord's here to visit
They're blasting disco down below
Sez, "I'm doubling up the rent
Cos the building's condemned
You're gonna help me buy City Hall"
But we can, you know we can
Let's lynch the landlord man
I tell them 'turn on the water'
I tell 'em 'turn on the heat'
Tells me 'All you ever do is complain'
Then they search the place when I'm not here
But we can, you know we can
Let's lynch the landlord
Let's lynch the landlord man
There's rats chewin' up the kitchen
Roaches up to my knees
Turn the oven on, it smells like Dachau, yeah
Til the rain pours thru the ceiling
But we can, you know we can
Let's lynch the landlord man
The omni neighborhood is so bougie. I hope people aren't still worrying about crime. I'd be concerned about the opposite .. On a weekend it's like watching tech guys walk their trophy girlfriends around the marina. Lots of changes
It's very pretty though . Maybe there's an incentive that sudoroom will keep the neighborhood rad .!
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