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Re: [sudo-discuss] Fwd: ECONOMIC CONTROVERSIES : A discussion group and concept resource

by Texas Blackwell

I'll BE THERE! Tx.Blackwell Troy Massey <ecoeconomist11(a)gmail.com> wrote: >On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Troy Massey ><<http://EconomicPolicyJournal.com> >ecoeconomist11(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> >> "ECONOMIC CONTROVERSIES" >> > > >A DISCUSSION GROUP AND CONCEPT RESOURCE > >> >> >> >> >> >> Hello Bay Area citizens, >> > > >> I am proposing to hold discussions on current economic controversies >> >> Bob Wenzel a local dedicated Austrian school economist will be in >> attendance to offer his controversial perspective on the economy, it's >> mechanisms, and will be available to answer general questions through out >> his presentation. >> >> Be prepared to learn and promote your own thoughts. We encourage people to >> bring any burning questions and perspectives which will be worked into the >> presentations so that we can study to help develop dialogue. >> >> >> EconomicPolicyJournal.com >> >> www.Sudoroom.org >> >> > >> >> We will be holding the discussions on >> >> * 7pm Tuesdays at Sudoroom * >> >> (2141 Broadway on 22nd street entrance Oakland 94612 ) >> > > >> We look forward to your attendance! >> <http://EconomicPolicyJournal.com> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> We will be holding the discussions on >> * >> **7pm** Tuesdays at Sudoroom* >> >> (2141 Broadway on 22nd street entrance Oakland 94612 ) >> >> ( type in your blog or webpage here Bob ) >> >> www.Sudoroom.org >> >> We look forward to your attendance! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Sincerely, >> >> Troy Massey >> 510.383.6117 >> >> LIBRARIAN >> www.SUDOroom.org >> 2141 Broadway >> Oakland Ca, 94612 >> >> >> COMMUNICATIONS COORDINATOR >> www.CommunityDemocracyProject.org >> >> >> "You are the source of freedom. The price of freedom is awareness and >> action." >>

11 years, 11 months

UC Berkeley Student plan field trip to Sudo Room, ask for hackers to give them 'real' education

by Max Klein

Hell Holy Kopimists and Sudoers, A group of self-organized students from UC Berkeley want to Visit Sudo Room on October 14th 5pm to take theory into praxis. Their student-run class is "Politics of Digital Piracy" . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_Program:University_of_California,_B… They are asking if someone would like to take point on peer-teaching one of the following topics to the insatiable and impressionable minds of the hackcers-to-be. As far as volunteers go, I think if would be cool if someone: > a.) did a hands-on workshop setting up Thunderbird, enigmail, and explain > a bit about encryption/decryption, pgp and private keys ect. > > b.) setting up tor. Despite its recent cracks, there have been students > that have expressed interest in using Tor. > > c.) talk about the hack culture, and what kind of things sudoroom does. > > Let me know if you think this is doable. Should be fun. Also, bringing a > group from the Open Computing Facility as well. > Please reply all so that our organizer Angelica can be part of the conversation or reply to her directly. Gratutiously yours, Max ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Angelica Tavella <angelicatavella(a)gmail.com> Date: 30 September 2013 08:32 Subject: Re: September updates To: Max Klein <isalix(a)gmail.com> Cc: Matthew Senate <mattsenate(a)gmail.com> Great. So here is a link to the class wiki page (yes, we're still using your implementation of the WMF Education Program). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_Program:University_of_California,_B… The topics we have covered so far are copyright law, privacy and surveillance, hack culture, and are moving on to peer to peer networks this week. The week of Oct 14 (the proposed evening), we will just be presenting midterm projects, so I think the learning objective of our trip to sudoroom could be related to any of our covered topics so far. As far as volunteers go, I think if would be cool if someone: a.) did a hands-on workshop setting up Thunderbird, enigmail, and explain a bit about encryption/decryption, pgp and private keys ect. b.) setting up tor. Despite its recent cracks, there have been students that have expressed interest in using Tor. c.) talk about the hack culture, and what kind of things sudoroom does. Let me know if you think this is doable. Should be fun. Also, bringing a group from the Open Computing Facility as well. -Ang

11 years, 11 months

Deathguild dance night for Sudoroom & Noisebridge

by Romy Snowyla

Any Noisebridge and Sudoroom regulars into some death guild tonight? There's ample wifi there and I run into you all from time to time ! Sent from my iPhone

11 years, 11 months

Re: [sudo-discuss] Fwd: The Omni

by Liberty Madison

I am hoping we continue to occupy the current location under more favorable terms. The access to not only BART, but city government, assemblies, events, community is appealing. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note™, an AT&T LTE smartphone -------- Original message -------- Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] Fwd: The Omni From: David Keenan <dkeenan44(a)gmail.com> To: "sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org" <sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org> CC: Re: [sudo-discuss] Fwd: The Omni Thanks Eddan for clarifying. Im sad i missed the joint meeting with CCL re: moving in - we definitely need more meatspace strategizing on making a 3-way move like that happen - I'm really happy that marina and y'all are checking out the Omni and other potential spaces - I'm going to start looking pretty hard and get BAPSers in on this too - sounds like a guesstimated combo sudo/baps/ccl monthly budget would be ~$4500, does that seem about right? Re: SUDO moving into the Omni, it sounds super cool and personally I have no problem with the location - but I do think if there are ppl living in the space, that might make it challenging - conversely if there are lots of loud shows there, that might make having a class tough? And more or less importantly.. are there windows in the Omni space? It's be great if whatever space SUDO moved to had more natural light.. On Monday, September 30, 2013, Eddan Katz wrote: Terminating the current lease means the latter, David. That is - at that point, a new/better lease can be negotiated. Or not, if so decided. While the details on what a co-op purchase would look like still have to be hammered out in detail, it was my understanding from George that he was interested in an arrangement that would include selling off equity in that portion. Different organizations would put up money in their collective shares and that wing would be organized as a co-op with the different organizational/individual owners taking part in the decision-making of managing the building. On Sep 30, 2013, at 12:05 PM, David Keenan wrote: Hey guys, Regarding leaving 2141 and scoping out new spaces.. I was hoping someone could fill me in on what is really meant by deciding we are officially 'terminating the lease' in Dec. ? Does it mean we are definitely out of 2141 come Jan., ie, we definitely dont want to stay at 2141? Has that been decided? Or, would we have the opportunity to negotiate a new/better lease if we did decide to keep on at 2141? Re: a co-op purchase of part of 2141, what are the brass tacks of that exactly? I..e, do we have however many tens of thousands I imagine we would need for most mortgage downpayments? Is there some angel investor here I dunno about? Along the same lines what are our real-world options with respect buying the church, or part of the Omni? Or are we just talking about renting part of the omni? Personally, I'd prefer to move, but move with BAPS, SUDO, and CCL. It kind of seems like maybe we should find a good place to move to, and understand what our combined budget is. if SUDO moves out without BAPS that would suck for BAPS and also mean that SUDO would probably get a smaller space than we would get if we combined forces, synchronized, and all moved somewhere together (or mayber stayed at 2141 together, under more amenable conditions). Staying together being the operative word to me here.. Best. David On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 10:46 AM, David Rorex <drorex(a)gmail.com> wrote: On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 5:05 PM, Marina Kukso <marina.kukso(a)gmail.com> wrote: *Half the room will still be avavilable, and could be Sudo's for approx $2k/month. How many square feet are we getting in exchange for that $2k? *It is 10 minutes walk from McArthur BART That's not too bad, obviously closer is better, and MacArthur is not a very safe area at night, but it's oakland, what are you gonna do On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 9:01 PM, Tracy Jacobs <kinetical(a)comcast.net> wrote: You do realize that's very close to Ace Monster Toys? If Sudo room moves up to the Berkeley Border, it would make sense to join with Ace Monster Toys. Also, in my opinion that is way too far from Bart, and way too far from where I live, so I would probably not ever go there. Sounds like an interesting space though, and that is a better neighborhood than where AMT is now. Maybe they would be interested in this space? Tracy It's 1.4 mi away, which is relatively close, though not a super convenient walking distance. However they are looking for bigger cheaper spaces (minimum 3000 sq ft, and at most $1/sqft), so I'm not sure this would work. Also they have a requirement that anything over 2500sqft MUST have overhead sprinklers. That combined with the noise constraints might be an issue, since AMT has lots of big noisy toys (large CNC router tables, laser cutters, power saws, etc) _______________________________________________ sudo-discuss mailing list sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org

11 years, 11 months

Let's move in together!

by Marc Juul

Hi sudo room and public school! People from sudo room, the public school and counter culture labs are showing up at 7 pm today (friday) to talk about the possibility of moving in together. Come join if you want to be part of the discussion! -- Marc Juul

11 years, 11 months

Can anyone recommend a good electrician?

by Zee

Hi! I'm new to Oakland/SudoRoom, so this may be the completely wrong place to ask this... but can anyone recommend a good electrician to run phone cables? Ideally one who is available on the weekends? Zee

11 years, 11 months

Citizen Science wikibook - Virtual Science Hack with us for the next 24hrs @California Academy of Sciences

by Ryan Bethencourt

Hi All, We're currently working for the next 24hrs on projects to help the Citizen Science community at the California Academy of Sciences in SF and one of our projects is a Citizen Science Wikibook listing as many of the resources, blogs and tools for Citizen Science as we can, if you have the time and interest we'd really appreciate your input in the wiki! http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Citizen_Science All the best, Ryan -- Ryan Bethencourt Tel: (415) 825 2705 Conf Call: (650) 741 5013 ryan.bethencourt(a)gmail.com http://www.litmususa.com/ http://berkeleybiolabs.com/ www.bamh1.com www.linkedin.com/in/bethencourt www.logos-press.com/books/biotechnology_business_development.php

11 years, 11 months

Re: [sudo-discuss] [spaghettinight] Buying Greater Galilee Church in West Oakland - Viewing Tuesday 8pm

by Morten H. D. Fuglsang

Yes, the building itself is certainly not worth a lot/if anything. It was built by one of the founders of that specific church, some 4-7 decades ago. One of the churchgoers' fathers I believe. But hey! with some creativity, skill and hard work anything is possible, and building new dwelling(s) doesn't necessarily have to be a 2 year project. Might even be possible to get for less than 400k. Make a great day, Morten H. D. Fuglsang US: +1 415 799 6931 // skype: FlyvendeHest On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 4:03 PM, David Wild <davidnorbertwild(a)gmail.com>wrote: > rad, max. > > you seem to know a thing or two about group financing. but for more info I > bet you could get advice on group purchasing from this crew who is starting > a community nexus in north oakland. check them out: > https://www.facebook.com/theomniproject . they recently acquired a huge > lot on shattuck behind creative reuse! > > i can put you in touch with one of the founding members if you like! > > -dw > > > On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 1:57 PM, Max Klein <isalix(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hello All, >> >> ==What?== >> There is a church that has gone bankrupt, and their property is for sale. >> >> 2439 Adeline Street >> Oakland, CA 94607 >> >> The appraisal value is $500k, but it is not on the market yet. (Appraisal >> pdf attached). So my feeling is that we can make an offer for somewhere >> around $400k if we organize quickly. >> >> There are some pictures in the appraisal PDF. >> >> I have set up an appointment to View the church at 8pm on Tuesday 1st >> October. I'm inviting you to come see if you want. >> >> ==Communal Buying== >> There are several ways to buy the property. I am intrigued by a >> multi-buyer shared-equity approach. Where everybody that pays not >> necessarily equal amounts, owns equity in not necessarily equal amounts. >> >> There has also been an offer of lender financing if we put $178k down. >> >> I am open to creative solutions. >> >> ==Potential Uses== >> Currently it is zoned "CIX" commercial-industrial mix. That means that >> officially you can only use one-third of the space for living. If we were >> to get a mortgage we would need a business license. Of course thought once >> you own it, there isn't zoning police that check what you do with it. >> >> So we could make this into housing, hostel, a venue, keep it a church, >> have a tiny house village on the back bit. >> >> Again I am open to creative solutions. >> >> ==Get in touch== >> If you want to come to the viewing, please email or call me (7074787023). >> >> _______________________________________________ >> spaghettinight mailing list >> spaghettinight(a)tentacle.net >> Rabbit administers this list; email them at rabbitface(a)gmail.com if you >> have questions >> To unsubscribe send an email to spaghettinight-leave(a)tentacle.net >> https://tentacle.net/mailman/listinfo/spaghettinight >> > > > _______________________________________________ > spaghettinight mailing list > spaghettinight(a)tentacle.net > Rabbit administers this list; email them at rabbitface(a)gmail.com if you > have questions > To unsubscribe send an email to spaghettinight-leave(a)tentacle.net > https://tentacle.net/mailman/listinfo/spaghettinight >

11 years, 11 months

Fwd: Raw Food Meetup Group - 11/3/2013 Confirmed for Large Space

by mattsenate＠gmail.com

// Matt ----- Forwarded message ----- From: "Laurie Cooperman Rosen" <Lscoop(a)comcast.net> To: <exchequer(a)sudoroom.org>, <eddan(a)eddan.com>, <mattsenate(a)gmail.com>, "'Robert Wenzel'" <rw(a)economicpolicyjournal.com>, <poems(a)zachhouston.com> Subject: Raw Food Meetup Group - 11/3/2013 Confirmed for Large Space Date: Fri, Sep 27, 2013 20:17 Hi All-Since I didn’t get word of any conflicts I have scheduled our Raw Foods Meetup Group for 11/3 with Heather Haxo Philips teaching a Fermentation Class. Setup 2-3, class 3-5, clean-up 5-6 (Sunday afternoon). I would also like to schedule a similar time for December 14th unless you have anything scheduled. Please let me know ASAP.Thank you!Laurie

11 years, 11 months

Buying Greater Galilee Church in West Oakland - Viewing Tuesday 8pm

by Max Klein

Hello All, ==What?== There is a church that has gone bankrupt, and their property is for sale. 2439 Adeline Street Oakland, CA 94607 The appraisal value is $500k, but it is not on the market yet. (Appraisal pdf attached). So my feeling is that we can make an offer for somewhere around $400k if we organize quickly. There are some pictures in the appraisal PDF. I have set up an appointment to View the church at 8pm on Tuesday 1st October. I'm inviting you to come see if you want. ==Communal Buying== There are several ways to buy the property. I am intrigued by a multi-buyer shared-equity approach. Where everybody that pays not necessarily equal amounts, owns equity in not necessarily equal amounts. There has also been an offer of lender financing if we put $178k down. I am open to creative solutions. ==Potential Uses== Currently it is zoned "CIX" commercial-industrial mix. That means that officially you can only use one-third of the space for living. If we were to get a mortgage we would need a business license. Of course thought once you own it, there isn't zoning police that check what you do with it. So we could make this into housing, hostel, a venue, keep it a church, have a tiny house village on the back bit. Again I am open to creative solutions. ==Get in touch== If you want to come to the viewing, please email or call me (7074787023).

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