[sudo-discuss] Re: [omni-building] Re: OMNI Commons - Rat and pest abatement.

Not a bad idea re FRP, patrik. That would also make trash room walls cleanable, which would be nice. The trash room has a really high fire load - so much cardboard etc, & features the exposed underside of an unrated wooden stair, interior-facing wooden siding, etc. Therefore, this room could also really use some DW under the stair, and also I think that ceiling + wall areas in this room which are not finished in FRP should ideally have 2 coats of our intumescent paint, which we still have a lot of.. (There’s a special application for intumescent paint - the layers / mils must be pretty exact - but it ain’t rocket science). The combination of the above would lead to not only a more rat-proof, but a more cleanable and fire-safe trash room as well. (Ps. Sarah, btw - FRP = fiberglass reinforced panels, not paint) Best, David On Wed, Feb 23, 2022 at 17:04 Sarah Lockhart &lt;sarah.ee.el(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: > I believe that paint is with the other paint in the basement. In case > someone wants to do a Malevich tribute > > SL > > On Wed, Feb 23, 2022 at 4:42 PM Patrik D'haeseleer &lt;patrikd(a)gmail.com&gt; > wrote: > >> (Copying the building list on this as well) >> >> We may want to consider covering the walls of the trash room in FRP, >> especially since our lab space is right on the other side of the back >> wall... >> >> Patrik >> >> On Wed, Feb 23, 2022 at 3:37 PM David Keenan via sudo-discuss < >> sudo-discuss(a)sudoroom.org&gt; wrote: >> >>> We also need to rat-proof the trash room from the disco room’s ground >>> floor stair landing side. >>> >>> On Wed, Feb 23, 2022 at 12:15 Jenny Ryan via sudo-discuss < >>> sudo-discuss(a)sudoroom.org&gt; wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks, Sarah!! (and lol re: rodent-inclusivity..) >>>> >>>> Adding the list back to this earlier reply I sent re: traps: >>>> >>>> I bought 4-5 nice electric traps back in 2019 (much more humane to >>>> kill via electrocution than snaptraps). They take C (or maybe D?) >>>> batteries. I bought rechargeable batteries for them, as well as a battery >>>> charger that accommodates all types of rechargeable batteries. >>>> >>>> ^ these electric traps are the Rat Zappers in boxes that Sarah >>>> mentioned. Unsure about status of rechargeable batteries and battery >>>> charger. >>>> >>> On 2/23/22 11:57, Sarah Lockhart via sudo-discuss wrote: >>>> >>> Just FYI -- I just ordered the hardware cloth to rat-proof under the >>>> stage of the ballroom. There should be some left over that can be put in >>>> omni's toolroom and used for various sites where we need to more >>>> emphatically demonstrate that we are not a rodent-inclusive building >>>> >>>> On Wed, Feb 23, 2022 at 9:59 AM Ian C &lt;icumming2020(a)yahoo.com&gt; wrote: >>>> >>>>> "think that it would be really nice to have the space clean and >>>>> organized and >>>>> inviting, and the way we will do that is by people coming into the >>>>> space and >>>>> cleaning and organizing it. There is no substitute for that, and >>>>> people who >>>>> think that turning away donations (which have supplied literally >>>>> everything in >>>>> sudoroom) are mistaken, and their suggestions harm us and don't help >>>>> anything." >>>>> >>>>> Jake, David, and Sarah: >>>>> Two nights ago, as I was leaving, I saw a large rat, run down the >>>>> hall past the restroom, >>>>> towards the front room. >>>>> Last night I saw the same rat run from the beige couch in the >>>>> entrance hall, >>>>> to the far side of the building, and as I was leaving, the rat ran >>>>> from >>>>> the far side of the building towards the Beige couch. >>>>> >>>>> You have rats and food. >>>>> Two nights in a row. >>>>> >>>>> You can have a professional exterminator come and remove it, >>>>> or you can wait until the health department closes all food >>>>> operations down. >>>>> If you want to ever have a commercial kitchen, ( Which I have worked >>>>> in) >>>>> you need to handle pests professionally. ( Which my former roommate >>>>> worked for Clarke ). >>>>> Or any time you ask for a permit, the health department will ask to >>>>> see your extermination bills and records, which makes some commercial >>>>> kitchens, >>>>> not viable, and they either have to shut down, or they never get >>>>> started. >>>>> >>>>> The Town fridge needs a clean up in front of the building. >>>>> There is food spread all over, >>>>> THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING. >>>>> Remember the neighbors who complained about the front steps? >>>>> Also, another toaster was removed, >>>>> I will be emptying SuDo Rooms trash tonight. >>>>> >>>>> So, Jake is out of town, and these problems, >>>>> and gone from a concern, to urgent, to Emergency. >>>>> This is what happens when you ignore problems, >>>>> >>>>> If a rat bites someone, >>>>> ( because it is now living in the front entrance hall) >>>>> Do you understand the consequences of not doing anything? >>>>> >>>>> There are currently places that I can point out where rats are moving >>>>> into the walls. >>>>> The hole I saw has enlarged since last night. >>>>> >>>>> Here are some suggestions: >>>>> Have David, put out as many commercial traps, and get some exclusion >>>>> material. >>>>> Install today, not tomorrow, or the next day: >>>>> When Sudo room had a mice problem, that I noticed, >>>>> I put traps out that day. >>>>> When Counter Culture Labs had a mouse, >>>>> they put out traps immediately. >>>>> AVN keeps all food off the floor. >>>>> They are meticulous about it. >>>>> >>>>> Here is the alternative: >>>>> You really never want a kitchen, >>>>> and you want the fate of the Redstone building in San Francisco to >>>>> repeat: >>>>> "San Francisco's Redstone Building sells below..." >>>>> ( reduced from $22M to $7M. a 69% Devaluation. ) >>>>> Most probably because of unabated pests. >>>>> Could the OMNI survive a 69% devaluation? >>>>> >>>>> "Nov 19, 2021 — Despite years of advocacy >>>>> to keep the historic Redstone Building in community hands, >>>>> the building has been sold to a real estate company" >>>>> >>>>> When you are flying a 747, another 747 flying at you, >>>>> looks like a tiny dot, until It gets really big, and then you are >>>>> dead. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Saturday, February 19, 2022, 03:19:34 PM PST, Jake via >>>>> sudo-discuss &lt;sudo-discuss(a)sudoroom.org&gt; wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, 19 Feb 2022, Alexander Papazoglou wrote: >>>>> >>>>> > I don't have any concrete suggestions other than finding a way to >>>>> make >>>>> > stuff transit though sudoroom in a more orderly fashion. Like with >>>>> planned >>>>> > events, maybe in concert with other hackerspaces. But I'm probably >>>>> just >>>>> > echoing Joule's sentiments there. >>>>> >>>>> I listed concrete suggestions: I said "come and get involved, spend >>>>> time >>>>> understanding what we have and why, and make an impact." >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> sudo-discuss mailing list -- sudo-discuss(a)sudoroom.org >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to sudo-discuss-leave(a)sudoroom.org >>>> More options at https://sudoroom.org/lists/postorius/lists/sudo-discuss.sudoroom.org/ >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> sudo-discuss mailing list -- sudo-discuss(a)sudoroom.org >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to sudo-discuss-leave(a)sudoroom.org >>>> More options at >>>> https://sudoroom.org/lists/postorius/lists/sudo-discuss.sudoroom.org/ >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> sudo-discuss mailing list -- sudo-discuss(a)sudoroom.org >>> To unsubscribe send an email to sudo-discuss-leave(a)sudoroom.org >>> More options at >>> https://sudoroom.org/lists/postorius/lists/sudo-discuss.sudoroom.org/ >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> building mailing list >> building(a)lists.omnicommons.org >> https://omnicommons.org/lists/listinfo/building >> >