Sudoroom's values that we agreed on way back in 2011 include "safe space over ideology". Omni's values clearly say that we center the perspectives and prioritize the needs of survivors of assault, and of trans people struggling against transphobia. Our safer space policy says that we "prioritizes marginalized people’s safety over privileged people’s comfort." https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Articles_of_Association https://omnicommons.org/wiki/Statement_of_Solidarity https://omnicommons.org/wiki/Safer_Space_Policy I think the best thing our community can do right now is show support for Ryan in this moment. I'm sad that we are getting distracted by other things. Policy details have their place, but not if it just multiplies the trauma of assault with the additional trauma of not being fully and unambiguously supported by your community when it happens. At the risk of continuing a heated thread, I must repeat this: I don't find Ryan's tone offensive our uncalled for. Ryan is speaking from a place of vulnerability and immediate experience, and I would ask others who are coming to this from a place of distance, abstraction and polite discourse to please have more humility, compassion and forgiveness towards a recent survivor of assault and of multiple axes of oppression at Omni. Just two days ago Ryan hosted an "empathetic listening circle" at Omni. The idea was to be a place for people to open their hearts and hear each others' raw words. Just listen. Without immediately replying with advice, redirection, or contradiction. He hosted this because he really needs that right now, and I believe many of us direly need it as well. Can we please have another round of empathetic listening right now, with priority going to immediate survivors of assault? I believe that is the key to continuing this conversation respectfully without shutting it down entirely. Thank you. _______________________________________________ sudo-discuss mailing list sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss