I urge we don't involve the police though.

Niki honestly I think you are tokenizing Rannette if anyone else was being as problematic and aggressive as she has been to many people in the space people would call it put. It ain't micro aggressions she has always acted rude and transphobic to me from day one. But I guess you can tokenize her and say just because she is black it is pk to be transphobic. I know plenty of black trans women and black trans allies that would not put up with her. On Thursday, June 25, 2015, niki &lt;niki.shelley(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: > I don't believe we have an explicit policy re: cops but we should > probably articulate one. > > Regarding this particular conflict, I just went and met with Ranette. > > First of all, I want it to be 100% clear that this email is not meant > to condone Ranette's behavior or the ways in which she handles > confrontation or engages in transphobic attacks. > > That said, oftentimes the most insidious and persistent forms of abuse > and oppression are not as obvious as a violent outburst. These are the > forms of abuse and oppression most instrumentalized by dominant culture and > they are consistently employed in order to control oppressed populations. > > You, Morgan, need to accept accountability for continuing to engage in > provocative micro-aggressions and gaslighting - particularly with those who > are different from you and who may not possess the best coping mechanisms / > most radical politics. I really believe that you intentionally push people > you don't like and who you know will react badly in an attempt to get them > banned from the space. > > I'd like to also ask that you think about the ways in which you > repeatedly police people in the space in ways such as inserting yourself > into private phone conversations. > > We don't need cops, we need people who are compassionate towards one > another's differences and who are willing to work through those differences > to arrive at some kind of common ground. > > I don't personally know that reconciliation is possible either at this > time, given our limited capacities and the level of aggression with which > Ranette has responded however, I believe your behavior to be a major part > of the problem. > > Another issue is the fact that the Omni is pretty maxed out with > regards to our capacity for conflict mediation / resolution at the moment. > Both Morgan and Ranette told me that they'd asked for mediation from > several people including the mediation mailing list and no one ever > followed up with either of them. I don't really know what to do about this > but it should be made clear to members of our community that they cannot > rely on us at the time for mediation / resolution. > > I told Ranette I would inquire about mediation. Obviously others > involved in this conflict must be willing to participate, a well if there's > to be any kind of resolution, which, I understand, some might not be > interested in pursing. > > N > > > > On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 10:08 PM, max cadji &lt;max(a)phatbeetsproduce.org&gt; > wrote: > >> Does omni have a no police policy? >> >> max >> >> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 4:56 PM, Pete Forsyth &lt;peteforsyth(a)gmail.com&gt; >> wrote: >> >>> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 4:38 PM, Julio Rios &lt;julio.rios(a)gmail.com&gt; >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I urge we don't involve the police though. >>>> >>> >>> Just a quick point of clarification -- I wasn't urging Sudo or Omni >>> to do so, but any *individual* who feels threatened. (And actually, just >>> urging them to consider it as a viable option...I'm not confident to >>> recommend anything specific, as my info is limited.) >>> >>> Pete >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Support Prescription Veggies! Order a Beet Box CSA today! >> <http://www.phatbeetsproduce.org/order-a-beet-box-csa/> >> 510-250-7957 >> ...connecting small farmers of color to urban communities >> >> *Check out Feel the Beet! Farmers Market* >> www.youtube.com/watch?v=Keawnad90aQ >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> discuss mailing list >> discuss(a)lists.omnicommons.org >> https://omnicommons.org/lists/listinfo/discuss >> >> >

Please actually read the emails. She has been asked to leave without attempts at reconciliation at this time. However, please acknowledge that this isn't about tokenization. You are a button pusher and aggressive. You are constantly inserting yourself where it isn't appropriate, pushing boundaries, and making demands on others without thinking about the consequences for them in these actions. I'm not saying that she isn't rude or transphobic. What others are saying is that you escalate. You push people and push people. Honestly, I think you should be asked to leave. Not about this. About a pattern of shitty and even threatening behavior against multiple people when you don't agree with them or aren't getting what you want. If you *were* a member of sudo room, you would likely no longer be a member in good standing. Fuck, you intentionally pushed my buttons when I didn't immediately turn my music off when you asked me to turn it down. You are manipulative. And I feel that you intentionally choose behaviors that are deniable, which is so fucking abusive, even if you aren't aware of it. On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 12:22 PM, WIld Cat &lt;wildcatofthewoods(a)gmail.com > wrote: > And she attacked me in the street I think she should be banned if not > it ain't a safer space. Also she has attacked two other people. Don't try > to make this about race Niki. This is I give her shade because she is > aggressive, messy, rude, violent, and transphobic > > > On Friday, June 26, 2015, WIld Cat &lt;wildcatofthewoods(a)gmail.com&gt; > wrote: > >> Niki honestly I think you are tokenizing Rannette if anyone else was >> being as problematic and aggressive as she has been to many people in the >> space people would call it put. It ain't micro aggressions she has always >> acted rude and transphobic to me from day one. But I guess you can tokenize >> her and say just because she is black it is pk to be transphobic. I know >> plenty of black trans women and black trans allies that would not put up >> with her. >> >> On Thursday, June 25, 2015, niki &lt;niki.shelley(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: >> >>> I don't believe we have an explicit policy re: cops but we should >>> probably articulate one. >>> >>> Regarding this particular conflict, I just went and met with >>> Ranette. >>> >>> First of all, I want it to be 100% clear that this email is not >>> meant to condone Ranette's behavior or the ways in which she handles >>> confrontation or engages in transphobic attacks. >>> >>> That said, oftentimes the most insidious and persistent forms of >>> abuse and oppression are not as obvious as a violent outburst. These are >>> the forms of abuse and oppression most instrumentalized by dominant culture >>> and they are consistently employed in order to control oppressed >>> populations. >>> >>> You, Morgan, need to accept accountability for continuing to engage >>> in provocative micro-aggressions and gaslighting - particularly with those >>> who are different from you and who may not possess the best coping >>> mechanisms / most radical politics. I really believe that you intentionally >>> push people you don't like and who you know will react badly in an attempt >>> to get them banned from the space. >>> >>> I'd like to also ask that you think about the ways in which you >>> repeatedly police people in the space in ways such as inserting yourself >>> into private phone conversations. >>> >>> We don't need cops, we need people who are compassionate towards one >>> another's differences and who are willing to work through those differences >>> to arrive at some kind of common ground. >>> >>> I don't personally know that reconciliation is possible either at >>> this time, given our limited capacities and the level of aggression with >>> which Ranette has responded however, I believe your behavior to be a major >>> part of the problem. >>> >>> Another issue is the fact that the Omni is pretty maxed out with >>> regards to our capacity for conflict mediation / resolution at the moment. >>> Both Morgan and Ranette told me that they'd asked for mediation from >>> several people including the mediation mailing list and no one ever >>> followed up with either of them. I don't really know what to do about this >>> but it should be made clear to members of our community that they cannot >>> rely on us at the time for mediation / resolution. >>> >>> I told Ranette I would inquire about mediation. Obviously others >>> involved in this conflict must be willing to participate, a well if there's >>> to be any kind of resolution, which, I understand, some might not be >>> interested in pursing. >>> >>> N >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 10:08 PM, max cadji < >>> max(a)phatbeetsproduce.org&gt; wrote: >>> >>>> Does omni have a no police policy? >>>> >>>> max >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 4:56 PM, Pete Forsyth < >>>> peteforsyth(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 4:38 PM, Julio Rios &lt;julio.rios(a)gmail.com&gt; >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I urge we don't involve the police though. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Just a quick point of clarification -- I wasn't urging Sudo or >>>>> Omni to do so, but any *individual* who feels threatened. (And actually, >>>>> just urging them to consider it as a viable option...I'm not confident to >>>>> recommend anything specific, as my info is limited.) >>>>> >>>>> Pete >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Support Prescription Veggies! Order a Beet Box CSA today! >>>> <http://www.phatbeetsproduce.org/order-a-beet-box-csa/> >>>> 510-250-7957 >>>> ...connecting small farmers of color to urban communities >>>> >>>> *Check out Feel the Beet! Farmers Market* >>>> www.youtube.com/watch?v=Keawnad90aQ >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> discuss mailing list >>>> discuss(a)lists.omnicommons.org >>>> https://omnicommons.org/lists/listinfo/discuss >>>> >>>> >>> > _______________________________________________ > discuss mailing list > discuss(a)lists.omnicommons.org > https://omnicommons.org/lists/listinfo/discuss > > -- Currently Reading <https://www.goodreads.com/user/email_signature_destination/35215676?utm_medium=reading_link&utm_source=email_signature> [image: Book Cover] <https://www.goodreads.com/user/email_signature_destination/35215676?utm_medium=cover&utm_source=email_signature>