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Oil Testing kit

by refugia

It's a kickstarter campaign for open source pollution detectors, quite cute http://youtu.be/a6jKe80YO8w

10 years, 2 months

Re: [sudo-discuss] [omni-discuss] email archives for list members only, except announce?

by Jenny Ryan

Concur'd on all points, Matt. If people are concerned about their contributions being publicly viewable, they can post to 'confidential' or another private list - or simply have an in-person conversation. I'd like to know the particular use cases for which we would need closed, private mailing lists - because I strongly believe that open and transparent communication and documentation is essential to this project having an impact not just within our community, but for the wider world. If we intend to create something greater than ourselves, our methods of organizing, the problems we face and overcome, the things that bind or break us, our experiences of creating the space and communicating about it, all of this is vital and important knowledge we have a responsibility to share so that others may learn from, iterate off, adapt, fork, and possibly change their own corners of the world for the better, inspired by what we're doing here. Let's not keep our history to ourselves. Knowing that our communications are public and archivable also keeps us accountable to ourselves, each other, and the world. We should always _expect_ what we communicate online to become potentially public, and may as well just own it, be responsible for our words, and communicate with kindness and wisdom - because words are often the most powerful artifacts we leave behind for future generations to inherit. My favorite quote on communication, in particular the debate of dialogue vs. dissemination and the way in which communication flows from internal dialogue to outward dissemination: Justice that is not loving is not just; love that is not just is not loving. Just so, dissemination without dialogue can become stray scatter, and dialogue without dissemination can be interminable tyranny. The motto of communication theory ought to be: Dialogue with the self, dissemination with the other. This is another way of stating the ethical maxim: Treat yourself like an other and the other like a self. (John Durham Peters, Speaking Into the Air: A History of the Idea of Communication, p. 57) Jenny http://jennyryan.net http://thepyre.org http://thevirtualcampfire.org http://technomadic.tumblr.com `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~` "Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories." -Laurie Anderson "Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it." -Hannah Arendt "To define is to kill. To suggest is to create." -Stéphane Mallarmé ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~` On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 12:21 PM, Matthew Senate <mattsenate(a)gmail.com> wrote: > David, > > I understand what you're sharing about the experiences you have had with > people seeking voice and space in this project. > > However, I do not believe that flipping bits from public to private on our > email list archives will change that. I think Jordan's implementation of a > *helpdesk@* list (private archives to protect senders), and leveraging > clear public-facing, private (or semi-private), and alternative > communication channels (e.g. physical "anonymous comment box" by the front > door) are all *excellent* ways to approach these situations. We should > set up a *whistleblower(a)lists.omnicommons.org > <whistleblower(a)lists.omnicommons.org> *or *leaks(a)lists.omnicommons.org > <leaks(a)lists.omnicommons.org>* for instance! > > Historically, I have had more than a handful of conversations with folks > (some active members, other allies elsewhere in the world) who have used > and read the public archives of the sudo room email lists for their > information and for all of our benefit. We depend on this form of > participation to continue to exist. Further, we link to these discussions > in our email threads, on the wiki, and elsewhere. > > We must be *clear* about what is *public* versus *private,* but we should > challenge ourselves to make more communications available (indexed by > google also means we can link to it on the public web... the structure of > the web that was valuable *even before *search engines and the > information search engines use to crawl content and formulate rankings, > etc). We can also encourage search engines not to index this content to > keep it unsearchable, but probably the folks who typically want to search > it will be us and our community. > > To me, a good number of our problems right now correspond to *access*, > *transparency*, and *engaging new participants*. In light of these > issues, there is a clear direction for us to travel in which we should > value *"open, public discourses over closed, proprietary processes"* as > well as *"access and transparency over exclusivity"* in order to *"solve > real problems over hypotheticals, while respecting visions of the future"* > - https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Articles_of_Association#Values > > All three of us on this thread so far are sudo room members, what do you > all think about these values I've shared? > > // Matt > > On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 2:11 PM, yar <yardenack(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 12:51 PM, David Keenan <dkeenan44(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > I would like to help you welcome new members - if I can get those >> notices, I >> > will reply and copy you and Jenny. >> >> We already have a list called "helpdesk" which is for receiving >> private emails about the omni, so if we all CC helpdesk then others >> know what's being done and how it's being done. Perhaps if we notice >> subscriptions from somebody new, we can forward the request to >> helpdesk! >> >> Anybody interested in being part of the general email liaison / >> outreach team, please subscribe. :) >> >> https://omnicommons.org/lists/listinfo/helpdesk >> _______________________________________________ >> discuss mailing list >> discuss(a)lists.omnicommons.org >> https://omnicommons.org/lists/listinfo/discuss >> > > > _______________________________________________ > discuss mailing list > discuss(a)lists.omnicommons.org > https://omnicommons.org/lists/listinfo/discuss > >

10 years, 2 months

Re: [sudo-discuss] sudo-discuss Digest, Vol 24, Issue 4

by Romy Ilano

All I can say is, kudos for doing it! ============================= Romy Ilano romy(a)snowyla.com On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 11:20 AM, <sudo-discuss-request(a)lists.sudoroom.org> wrote: > Send sudo-discuss mailing list submissions to > sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > sudo-discuss-request(a)lists.sudoroom.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > sudo-discuss-owner(a)lists.sudoroom.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of sudo-discuss digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Can you provide a little feedback on my hardware project > on Kickstarter? (hol(a)gaskill.com) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2014 11:20:37 -0700 > From: hol(a)gaskill.com > To: Autonomous <autonomous666(a)gmail.com> > Cc: sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org > Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] Can you provide a little feedback on my > hardware project on Kickstarter? > Message-ID: <159869525aa44c9fed2cdd04930b3cf8(a)gaskill.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > oh wow i missed that - the sata feature would be a huge plus. how far > along are you in board layout? > > On 2014-10-03 15:07, Autonomous wrote: > > > Oh, sorry it is not a Raspberry PI project. It will use an A20 based > clone of the Raspberry PI model B+. > > > > I am putting the finishing touches on a separate Indiegogo project > called the "Shoofly PI" and will be launching soon. It is an open source > hardware design with the same layout as the Model B+. People can build > their own Shoofly PI for maybe $20-30 cost per unit to produce. Attached is > a high-level design layout: > > > > On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 1:27 PM, <hol(a)gaskill.com> wrote: > > > > it looks like a pretty cool OS, but $500k seems a little steep for > developing another raspberry pi OS mashup. how do you envision that money > being allocated? are there free alternatives that people will choose over > this one? I like the concept of pre-packaging alot of software in an sd > card image for newbies and I think generally people will be willing to pay > extra for that at least until enough copies are distributed for it to be > readily available as a torrent. good luck and keep us posted! > > > > On 2014-10-02 10:28, Autonomous wrote: > > > > I developed a Linux based OS for the Allwinner A20 and Raspberry PI that > has a Mac-like user interface and 3D POV gaming engine. The project also > includes many open source Quake and Halflife game modifications, as well as > a collection of other open source games. The purpose of this Kickstarter > project is to raise funds to manufacture an A20-based board that has the > same form factor and IO connections as the Raspberry PI Model B+, and will > fit into a Model B+ case. > > > https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1429174725/orion-ogs-affordable-3-in-1… > [2] > > > > I am also launching a separate Kickstarter campaign with the same OS > distro on a 16GB SD card for the Raspberry PI. It includes some unique > software that I have developed for the RPi. > > > > I would certainly appreciate any feedback you may have on this project. > The marketing people working with me on this are from the entertainment > industry and have some interesting connections. We don't have many backers > as yet because we are doing a soft-launch and will ramp up marketing and > promotion shortly. > > > > Thanks! > > > > _______________________________________________ > > sudo-discuss mailing list > > sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org > > https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss [1] > > > Links: > ------ > [1] https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss > [2] > > https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1429174725/orion-ogs-affordable-3-in-1… >

10 years, 2 months

Want an antique oscilloscope?

by Patrik D'haeseleer

Anyone want this ancient oscilloscope that John left behind? If not, I may advertise it on the dorkbot list and a few other places. We could ask John to come take it, but it would be a shame to junk it - there's people who are really into this kind of stuff. Does anyone ever go the Electronics Flea Market <http://www.electronicsfleamarket.com/> at De Anza College? That would be the perfect audience for this kind of item. Next one is this Saturday. Patrik

10 years, 2 months

THIS SUNDAY!!! Omni fundraising video shoot: we need all of you!!!

by Noemie Serfaty

Dear Omni members Tomorrow, Sunday the 5th is the long awaited SHOOT of the Omni fundraising video!!! The OptikAllusions film collective has been working hard to make it happen, and it looks like it will be an awesome and fun day at the Omni! WE NEED ALL OF YOU!! In order for the Omni to look like a place buzzing with life and potentialities, we need as many people as possible to show up and help! Production meeting will be at 11:45! We need everyone to be there so Liz can assign everyone to a spot and a role, explain the course of things, how to prepare, etc! We will then shoot from 12:30 to 4pm Help make the Omni look like a wonderful, crazy, wacky, fun, creative and crucial social project! Make your collective look awesome! Help prepare the space! If you want to be a baps student, dress nerdy! If you want to be a yoga student, dress accordingly! if you want to look like your busy drilling stuff, wear your overalls! If you want to juggle or play the banjo, bring your props! Look videogenic! Love and solidarity Noemie and the OptikAllusions Film Collective -- Noémie Serfaty 108 rue du Faubourg du Temple 75011 Paris Tel: 06 27 76 88 84 Tel: 01 71 50 51 82 noemieserfaty(a)gmail.com

10 years, 2 months

Fwd: [omni-discuss] email archives for list members only, except announce?

by Matthew Senate

What do folks think about this discussion on the *omni-discuss* email list? Curious about your thoughts. // Matt ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Matthew Senate <mattsenate(a)gmail.com> Date: Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 12:21 PM Subject: Re: [omni-discuss] email archives for list members only, except announce? To: yar <yardenack(a)gmail.com> Cc: "discuss(a)lists.omnicommons.org" <discuss(a)lists.omnicommons.org> David, I understand what you're sharing about the experiences you have had with people seeking voice and space in this project. However, I do not believe that flipping bits from public to private on our email list archives will change that. I think Jordan's implementation of a *helpdesk@* list (private archives to protect senders), and leveraging clear public-facing, private (or semi-private), and alternative communication channels (e.g. physical "anonymous comment box" by the front door) are all *excellent* ways to approach these situations. We should set up a *whistleblower(a)lists.omnicommons.org <whistleblower(a)lists.omnicommons.org> *or *leaks(a)lists.omnicommons.org <leaks(a)lists.omnicommons.org>* for instance! Historically, I have had more than a handful of conversations with folks (some active members, other allies elsewhere in the world) who have used and read the public archives of the sudo room email lists for their information and for all of our benefit. We depend on this form of participation to continue to exist. Further, we link to these discussions in our email threads, on the wiki, and elsewhere. We must be *clear* about what is *public* versus *private,* but we should challenge ourselves to make more communications available (indexed by google also means we can link to it on the public web... the structure of the web that was valuable *even before *search engines and the information search engines use to crawl content and formulate rankings, etc). We can also encourage search engines not to index this content to keep it unsearchable, but probably the folks who typically want to search it will be us and our community. To me, a good number of our problems right now correspond to *access*, *transparency*, and *engaging new participants*. In light of these issues, there is a clear direction for us to travel in which we should value *"open, public discourses over closed, proprietary processes"* as well as *"access and transparency over exclusivity"* in order to *"solve real problems over hypotheticals, while respecting visions of the future"* - https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Articles_of_Association#Values All three of us on this thread so far are sudo room members, what do you all think about these values I've shared? // Matt On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 2:11 PM, yar <yardenack(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 12:51 PM, David Keenan <dkeenan44(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > I would like to help you welcome new members - if I can get those > notices, I > > will reply and copy you and Jenny. > > We already have a list called "helpdesk" which is for receiving > private emails about the omni, so if we all CC helpdesk then others > know what's being done and how it's being done. Perhaps if we notice > subscriptions from somebody new, we can forward the request to > helpdesk! > > Anybody interested in being part of the general email liaison / > outreach team, please subscribe. :) > > https://omnicommons.org/lists/listinfo/helpdesk > _______________________________________________ > discuss mailing list > discuss(a)lists.omnicommons.org > https://omnicommons.org/lists/listinfo/discuss >

10 years, 2 months

Can you provide a little feedback on my hardware project on Kickstarter?

by Autonomous

I developed a Linux based OS for the Allwinner A20 and Raspberry PI that has a Mac-like user interface and 3D POV gaming engine. The project also includes many open source Quake and Halflife game modifications, as well as a collection of other open source games. The purpose of this Kickstarter project is to raise funds to manufacture an A20-based board that has the same form factor and IO connections as the Raspberry PI Model B+, and will fit into a Model B+ case. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1429174725/orion-ogs-affordable-3-in-1… I am also launching a separate Kickstarter campaign with the same OS distro on a 16GB SD card for the Raspberry PI. It includes some unique software that I have developed for the RPi. I would certainly appreciate any feedback you may have on this project. The marketing people working with me on this are from the entertainment industry and have some interesting connections. We don't have many backers as yet because we are doing a soft-launch and will ramp up marketing and promotion shortly. Thanks!

10 years, 2 months

Film Night! (Again!)

by Eske Silver

I know it's a little bit late notice, (so many distractions!) but we're having our second film night tonight, in the basement! Come by a little after 7, too catch City of Lost Children, or around 9:30 for Delicatessen! ~ Korl Sent via Android device. 1.510.689.4484 STP/ eskesilver

10 years, 2 months

needs for ouroboros show 10/10

by D. Scott Nanos

Ouroboros Shadow Pictures will be performing at the omni on oct 10! I'm meeting with them tomorrow to pick up last 1/2 of rental fee + some posters. I hope ooc folks will come out for this show- it's sure to be amazing, and tickets will only be 5$ some needs for the show: 1. do we have a *mixer*? they have pa speakers and cables but no mixer. I'll definitely need one by the 10th at the latest! 2. do we have a mic stand? I think I got the two micstands covered, but jic... 3. how well does the ballroom black-out light from the outside? do i need to get some butcher paper or blankets to cover the shattuck ave windows? any other places with serious light leakage? Thanks and xo! Scott

10 years, 2 months

Sudocumentary editathon Friday Oct 3rd 6pm!

by Noemie Serfaty

Dear all Just a reminder: this Friday a 6 pm, Robert and I will be giving a workshop: Discover the footage of the documentary that is being shot at and about sudoroom, and the crazy adventure that the community is going through! We'll use Interlace <http://interlace.videovortex9.net/>! Some of the sudo footage will be in there. Do come with your own sudo room footage so we can incorporate it! (if possible not compressed) Coders: come check out and play with the code, tag, index, make crazy edits. Film people & editors: check out this mad collaborative editing tool and give us feed back. Tag, index, make crazy edits. Sudo-ers: Participate in telling your community’s story! Remix and play! All types of humans: all of the above and more! A demain! Noémie -- Noémie Serfaty 108 rue du Faubourg du Temple 75011 Paris Tel: 06 27 76 88 84 Tel: 01 71 50 51 82 noemieserfaty(a)gmail.com

10 years, 2 months

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