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Fwd: [Noisebridge-discuss] Safe hackerspaces mailing list

by Torrie Fischer

Hi, sudoers. Noisebridge has been trying to figure out ways to circulate information within the space about folks who come to Noisebridge but are not welcome to stay for strong reasons. Here's our idea: ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: [Noisebridge-discuss] Safe hackerspaces mailing list Date: Monday, November 24, 2014, 10:44:04 PM From: Patrick O'Doherty <p(a)trickod.com> To: noisebridge-discuss(a)lists.noisebridge.net Hey all, In the interests of collaborating with other hackerspaces on safe space issues myself and Torrie have set up an inter-hackerspace mailing list to share information about folks that are not welcome in spaces as a potential warning to others. The address is safe-hackerspaces(a)lists.riseup.net. You can subscribe at riseup here: https://lists.riseup.net/www/info/safe-hackerspaces The list is *not* intended for interpersonal issues in spaces, rather it's meant for sharing notice of incidents where people have been asked to leave and not return. For this reason the list is moderated. We'd like others outside of Noisebridge to contribute to the moderation group. Happy hacking, P _______________________________________________ Noisebridge-discuss mailing list Noisebridge-discuss(a)lists.noisebridge.net https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/noisebridge-discuss -----------------------------------------

11 years, 2 months

Fwd: Re: [omni-discuss] Strange man sleeping in eyeball room

by Eske Silver

Oops, sorry, I keep forgetting to cc everyone in the thread. Sending this in case not everyone is getting all of the replies. ~ Korl ---------- Forwarded: Okie doke. So. I spoke the alleged permissor, and according to them, the squatter indeed lied about having been given the go ahead, and dropped their name by way of a mutual friend or somesuch situation. I'm also very glad to say, that my worries were hasty and misinformed. The squatter in question is the bald and scruffled, 40-to-50-year-old black man, who often hangs out on the exterior steps of the ballroom entryway. It's unclear exactly how he got in, but what is clear is that we need to step up our game by discussing all the ideas offered above. Now I really am going to sleep. I hope to dream that all of you are my familial elms, that our trunks are made of space elevators, and that our roots are made of billions of microscopic hedgehogs. And the hedgehogs are rowing canoes, of course. ~ Korl ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Eske Silver" <eske.silver(a)gmail.com> Date: Nov 24, 2014 3:36 PM Subject: Re: [omni-discuss] Strange man sleeping in eyeball room To: "niki" <niki.shelley(a)gmail.com> Cc: "discuss" <discuss(a)lists.omnicommons.org>, "Jenny Ryan" < tunabananas(a)gmail.com> If the situation is what I think, I feel we ought to give as much support as we can to our friend. However, I do think we ought to be strict on our tolerance level for abuse of any kind; space, place, object, and of course person. Perhaps a breakout session is due for anyone who isn't already aware of how to deal with agressive or threatening people. Especially for lone situations. Perhaps we ought to even start spending ten mins of the delegates meeting, revisiting the table of contents of our spankin new Conflict Resolution guidelines, every few or four weeks? And it's semi-off-topic, but this quote really snapped me out of some lame situations, "Theres never a good reason to light yourself on fire in order to keep someone else warm". Just food for thought. Omni can be a place where everyone is welcome to exist, dance, hack, cook, heal, build, etc. But if we don't feel comfortable and safe with each other, that can't last long. I dunno. I'm exhausted and gufflebrained, and I've lost my train of thought. Good night everyone, Have a good day :) ~ Korl 500px.com/eskesilver 510.689.4484 On Nov 24, 2014 3:09 PM, "niki" <niki.shelley(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I appreciate your consideration and compassion. > > I also want our community to be aware of potentially aggressive > individuals - especially if they run into them alone, in the wee hours. > > It's a delicate balance, for sure, between respecting an individual's > privacy and ensuring the safety of the community. > > Thanks for being so awesome, Korl <3 > > On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Eske Silver <eske.silver(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> I don't feel comfortable at this time describing the squatter, nor >> mentioning the alleged permissors name, until I've had a chance to gather >> info on said alleged permission. >> I feel that the situation is potentially an insight to a serious personal >> matter of one our members, and I want to make sure it's potential gravity >> is given due appreciation. >> As soon as I have the facts, I'll be sure to update the thread. >> But to be sure, no it was not Quickness. >> Thanks for your patience. >> >> ~ Korl >> >> 500px.com/eskesilver >> 510.689.4484 >> On Nov 24, 2014 2:52 PM, "Eske Silver" <eske.silver(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Thanks guys. I often stay up ll night and occasionally use the solo >>> hours to get work done at sudo. I came in to do my and the omnis dishes, as >>> well as snag some wifi to download a hardware testing software. I was >>> certainly not expecting to find mr. rando there. >>> >>> I think you've got it spot on. The more collaboration we have between >>> last-outs and first-ins, respectively, the more effective we can be. I feel >>> like there's too much disconnect in areas like this, and so the process is >>> taken for granted. But if we look at whats already been discussed, >>> analyzed, and implimented, it's already all there. >>> >>> Ben has been so kind as to offer to add this to the delegates agenda, >>> and if I can make it to the meeting I'll certainly be there. >>> I honestly think the key is as simple as us Omnerds acting just a bit >>> more in sync with eachother. How we find the best pactice of preventing >>> issues like this one, is just a matter of getting everyone on the same >>> page, really. >>> Hive mentality! Buddy system! Robot super brain! Gaia info waves! >>> Et cetera and so forth. >>> ;) >>> >>> ~ Korl >>> >>> 500px.com/eskesilver >>> 510.689.4484 >>> On Nov 24, 2014 9:39 AM, "Jenny Ryan" <tunabananas(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> To be clear, I locked up with Marc, Matt, and Noemie last night and we >>>> went throughout the building asking non-members to leave and shutting off >>>> lights. I'm often among the last to leave with other sudoers and we always >>>> buddy up. Korl came back in the wee hours cuz she's a weirdo ;) >>>> >>>> Matt wrote this thing, we should update and improve it! >>>> https://omnicommons.org/wiki/Closing >>>> On Nov 24, 2014 9:28 AM, "Stephen Novotny" <novotny.stephen(a)gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Yes, thanks so much, Korl. >>>>> >>>>> How do you think we could prevent this problem in the future? It's >>>>> going to happen more and more frequently, I'm afraid. >>>>> >>>>> Partly, we'll have to be more adamant about keeping our doors locked >>>>> "after-hours" and being certain that folks who are coming in are coming for >>>>> a specific purpose and not to just linger around and sleep. Also, we should >>>>> probably develop a more systematic closing-up procedure that must include >>>>> some sort of buddy-system for closing up. It seems foolish to leave one >>>>> person alone to confront someone and ask them to leave the space. >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 9:22 AM, Jenny Ryan <tunabananas(a)gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Darn, and we were so proud of getting everyone to leave and locking >>>>>> up Omni last night! Didn't think to check that little room, but will add it >>>>>> to the rounds. >>>>>> >>>>>> A good reminder for folks who leave Omni late to check in with other >>>>>> members before you go - it's best to coordinate leaving and lock down with >>>>>> a small pack of trusted friends. Thanks for taking care of this solo, Korl. >>>>>> It's no fun :/ >>>>>> >>>>>> Hugs, >>>>>> J >>>>>> On Nov 24, 2014 5:38 AM, "Eske Silver" <eske.silver(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> For the record, I'm fine. >>>>>>> I told him what the house rule on sleeping was, that it was >>>>>>> unfortunate that this person gave him false information, that I hoped he >>>>>>> found somewhere else to go, but not to come back to Omni looking or a place >>>>>>> to crash. >>>>>>> He was a little agro, made some fuss about a few things, and gave me >>>>>>> a bunch of gruffy attitude, but he left on his bike. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This was no big thing, but I'd like to resolve the cause of the >>>>>>> situation, and also bring my concern to the table on locked doors. >>>>>>> The squatter had locked himself in the eyeball room, and in any >>>>>>> case, anyone who locks up the building, half asleep or otherwise, might not >>>>>>> even bother to knock. >>>>>>> Or if a squatter simply stayed silent, the person locking up might >>>>>>> very well just pass it over and chalk it up to the room being locked by >>>>>>> it's steward. >>>>>>> Basically, if we want to keep this from happening again, the current >>>>>>> process isn't working. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ~ Korl >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 500px.com/eskesilver >>>>>>> 510.689.4484 >>>>>>> On Nov 24, 2014 5:11 AM, "Ben Burke" <benjaminburke(a)me.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Kicking out squatters at 4:30 am sounds potentially dangerous. Did >>>>>>>> it go ok? Did you have / do you need backup? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Nov 24, 2014, at 4:27 AM, Eske Silver <eske.silver(a)gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> There is an older man whi has set camp in the eyeball room >>>>>>>> upstairs. He was quite upset when I told him he was not allowed to sleep >>>>>>>> here - that no one is, and that isnt what the omni is for. >>>>>>>> He claims hes been given permission to sleep here. I've asked him >>>>>>>> to leave and am now watching over while he gathers his things to leave. >>>>>>>> Does anyone know about this? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ~ Korl >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 500px.com/eskesilver >>>>>>>> 510.689.4484 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> discuss mailing list >>>>>>>> discuss(a)lists.omnicommons.org >>>>>>>> https://omnicommons.org/lists/listinfo/discuss >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> discuss mailing list >>>>>>> discuss(a)lists.omnicommons.org >>>>>>> https://omnicommons.org/lists/listinfo/discuss >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> discuss mailing list >>>>>> discuss(a)lists.omnicommons.org >>>>>> https://omnicommons.org/lists/listinfo/discuss >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >> _______________________________________________ >> discuss mailing list >> discuss(a)lists.omnicommons.org >> https://omnicommons.org/lists/listinfo/discuss >> >> >

11 years, 2 months

Re: [sudo-discuss] X marks the spot for all roof leaks!

by yar

On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 6:56 PM, Noemie Serfaty <noemieserfaty(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I love the idea of having our own Wikileaks!!! A+

11 years, 2 months

X marks the spot for all roof leaks!

by David Keenan

https://omnicommons.org/wiki/Leaks There appears to be some confusion about how to semi-permanently mark the location of leaks, so that the roofer knows where on the roof to fix them.. In short, we need to mark an 'X' on the floor where the leak is. If you see a leak, please quickly mark it on the floor - don't wait.. Buckets do get put out currently, but then of course, they get moved when the rain stops - and so the info about where the leak originated on the roof is basically lost, and then the roofer doesn't fix it, and it leaks again..and so on and so forth. I made the wiki page in the hopes that this SOP regarding leaks will spread and remain persistent throughout the omniverse. . thank yoo David

11 years, 2 months

do not sit on ballroom SW corner bench rite now (being worked on)?

by David Keenan

Hey guys, I'm planning on remediating a liability and building code issue with the ballroom bench bench running into the middle of a small staircase leading from the ballroom floor to the 'maintenance closet' in the SW corner of the ballroom, by cutting down the length of this bench of the West side such that the stairs are properly exposed. All the bolts have been removed, but it is still affixed with either glue or deeply embedded nails on the SW corner side, won't budge, and I need to cut the very end off to remove it, but my Fein saw is gone and my skillsaw is at home.. so it's still in place. For the time being please do not sit on this bench and definitely leave the 'do not sit' signs up. David

11 years, 2 months

Card Swipe not working - door stuck in unlocked position

by niki

Hey y'all I'm not sure how to fix this - I did the very technically savvy thing where you unplug stuff and I also tried turning the power off and on but even those pro moves didn't work. Any tips? xo N

11 years, 2 months

Re: [sudo-discuss] [BAPS-Organizing] Call to Action: SATURDAY 11am - 1pm IMPORTANT WORK PARTY BOOK PULL (free lunch!)

by yar

On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 9:47 AM, Stephen Novotny <novotny.stephen(a)gmail.com> wrote: > One of the first things we absolutely must do is remove the books and > couches from the basement. Where are the couches going, and when can we move them back?

11 years, 2 months

Re: [sudo-discuss] Card Swipe not working - door stuck in unlocked position

by Jake

If you lift the mail slot and the motor makes sounds like it's trying, but the sticks don't move, it sounds like something is wrong. I don't know what, and i'm in Texas and I won't return until Wednesday, so i can't help. If you need to lock the door and the motor is not working, take out the screw that holds the top of the motor to the stick. DON'T take out the screw that holds the bottom of the motor to the bottom latch! -jake On Fri Nov 21 Niki wrote: Hey y'all I'm not sure how to fix this - I did the very technically savvy thing where you unplug stuff and I also tried turning the power off and on but even those pro moves didn't work. Any tips? xo N

11 years, 2 months

Wanted: Plastics Caster / Molder

by Eske Silver

I'm looking for someone who knows propper casting and molding procedures for an upcoming plastics project. Thanks! ~ Korl

11 years, 2 months

Fwd: [nn-action] photos from last night's Bay Area event

by april glaser

-------- Original Message -------- Subject: [nn-action] photos from last night's Bay Area event Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 14:26:00 -0800 From: April Glaser <april(a)eff.org> Reply-To: April Glaser <april(a)eff.org> To: n Hi all, We're getting our write up together now, but for now here are some snapshots of last night's amazing event. http://www.demotix.com/news/6309125/net-neutrality-rally-and-hearing-san-fr… https://twitter.com/EFF/status/535915592943812608 https://twitter.com/search?q=%23BayAreaSpeaks&src=tyah In solidarity, April -- April Glaser Electronic Frontier Foundation 415-436-9333 x154 support our work: https://eff.org/join

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