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Building microphones.

by rusty lindgren

Hey Everyone, I was wondering if people wanted to build microphones with me. Any takers? -- Cheers, Rusty Lindgren **

12 years, 1 month

Pinnacle of cultural diversity

by Romy Snowyla

It is so awesome to see Sudoroom as a pinnacle of cultural diversity. There is no tokenism here or random Asian women shoved into showcase roles. It is truly a place where open minded people mix freely showing their diversity and superiority to any capital it's systems and stick it to the man Rock on!!! Sent from my iPhone

12 years, 1 month

Fwd: [OpenOakland Brigade] Take the Survey: Oakland Budget Process

by Marina Kukso

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Adam Stiles <adam(a)stiles.io> Date: Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 5:09 PM Subject: [OpenOakland Brigade] Take the Survey: Oakland Budget Process To: openoakland <openoakland(a)googlegroups.com> As some of you know, I recently became a member of Oakland's budget advisory committee. I've been asked to share this survey to get YOUR feedback.* Please forward. Deadline: this Sunday. * The Oakland Budget Advisory Committee has created this survey to solicit feedback from the community on the Oakland budget process this year. We are asking you to evaluate the budget process on a number of different qualities. *Your feedback will be used in forming our report to City Council that will be evaluating their efforts for transparency, engagement and clarity in the budget process* this year. http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/68KY2HT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "OpenOakland" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to openoakland+unsubscribe(a)googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to openoakland(a)googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/openoakland/CAMKatgfeYMuisbzfZvYTDiY2Jv%3… . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.

12 years, 1 month

Fwd: Oakland Votes Redistricting Meeting TONIGHT, Hub Oakland, 6-8pm

by Marina Kukso

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Oakland Votes Redistricting Coalition <it(a)urbanstrategies.org> Date: Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 12:31 PM Subject: Why do you love Oakland? Oakland Votes Redistricting Meeting TONIGHT, Hub Oakland, 6-8pm To: marina.kukso(a)gmail.com Hello All, I am Sheila Blandon, interning with the Oakland Votes Redistricting Coalition<https://act.myngp.com/el/-5494969879918280704/-471184712967127040>, assisting with data entry and tonight's meeting. I currently reside in Oakland’s 6th district and attend Peralta Community Colleges with an interest in public policy. In the near future I would like to run for office to influence policies made in our local government that affect those living in under resourced communities. Now that you have learned a little about me, I would like to invite you to this Wednesday’s meeting so you could learn more about the redistricting project and how it affects you and your neighbors. Please join me and the Oakland Votes Redistricting Coalition on Wednesday, September 18 at 6pm-8pm at the HUB in Downtown Oakland. (1423 Broadway). *Light refreshments will be served by Rising Loafer.* *For more information on redistricting please visit www.OaklandVotes.org.<https://act.myngp.com/el/-5494969879918280704/-399127118929199104> * I am excited to meet you all in person! Thanks much in advance, Sheila Blandon *P.S. Oakland Local just published an article about Oakland Reidistricting and how to be involved. <https://act.myngp.com/el/-5494969879918280704/-327069524891271168> * If you believe you received this message in error or wish to no longer receive email from us, please unsubscribe<https://act.myngp.com/el/-5494969879918280704/-543242307005054976> .

12 years, 1 month

noisebridge throwing out Scanning Electron Microscope etc

by Jake

perhaps you heard noisebridge is no longer a hackerspace and is emptying out the science room (where the SEM was) to make room for a radio studio or dj booth or something. ball pit. miloh will be moving the SEM to a safe location but if you want to help make sure no pieces get lost maybe you can help. there are tiny boxes with filaments in them and an ultrasonic cleaner, probably scattered around the trash pile thats forming at nb now. they are doing a dump run thursday. the SEM got moved out of its safe place without a single email about it to anyone that i know of. so help miloh find all the SEM pieces before its too late! -jake On Tue, 11 Jun 2013, Chris Murphy wrote: > Hi guys, > > Instead of taking the Noisebridge SEM, I have a great idea... > > Let's get another SEM! > > One of the problems with the Noisebridge SEM is that the community of SEM experts is too small. So let's enlarge that community > by getting another. > > If you do get the Noisebridge SEM, NB will be out of a significant resource and its repair and operation are likely to fall on > the same exact shoulders. You will also encounter ALL of the same problems that NB has encountered and will need to go to extreme > effort to build infrastructure around the microscope (which we haven't completed). > > I have a lead on another SEM that would be free. They aren't as rare as you might think. > > In my previous e-mail, which may not have been posted to the sudo room list yet (I'm not a list member), I didn't understand that > there was a plan afoot to take the NB SEM (which technically does not belong to NB anyway, it's on loan). I thought that someone > named Dr. X was going to donate another SEM to sudo room. I generally disapprove of dismantling Noisebridge resources. > > Chris > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jun 11, 2013, at 15:25, Ryan Bethencourt <ryan.bethencourt(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Great thanks Jake, we're working on the space thing for CCL and hoping to have one in the nearish term... it's kind > of like the early days of Sudo Room when we talked on and on about getting a space... until we finally got one :) > > > On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 3:16 PM, Jake <jake(a)spaz.org> wrote: > it is currently in a relatively safe place, especially considering that moving it is the most dangerous thing > to it. So it should stay where it is until a new place is chosen for it. > > Since Sudoroom doesn't have enough room for it and CCL has NO room yet, moving it will have to wait. > > However, i know of a pickup truck that can be used to move it if and when the time comes. > > -jake > > On Tue, 11 Jun 2013, Ryan Bethencourt wrote: > > Thanks Jake, It looks like we may have to rent a uhaul truck to move it as it looks large? > Sounds like Ben has a place for us to store it and we have another Counter Culture labs > co-founder/member (Shanee) who knows how to use it and said she could teach us :) > > > On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 3:10 PM, Benjamin Lack <benlack(a)gmail.com> wrote: > It looks like it would be fine sitting in a garage for a few months, if so, I have space. > Ben > > > On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 2:46 PM, Patrik D'haeseleer <patrikd(a)gmail.com> wrote: > That would be excellent! > > Here's the user manual with all the specs: > > https://www.noisebridge.net/images/c/c7/ISI_Mini-TV_SEM_Manual-Troubleshoot… > > It's a desktop machine, so doesn't necessarily take up any more space than some bio equipment. > Wonder how easy it would be to DIY a gold sputterer... > > Patrik > > On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 1:15 PM, Jake <jake(a)spaz.org> wrote: > I'm sure that Dr. X would be very pleased if it went to Counter Culture Labs. He just wants > it to be understood and appreciated, rather than sitting > neglected. CCL should hurry up and buy the church building before the price goes up on it, > and I can help transport it. > > It is basically an equipment rack and a cart of accessories, so it doesn't take up a ton of > room. But it's good to be able to set the microscope and > vacuum pump on different structures so that the vibration of the pump doesn't shake the > scope. Also, to take higher resolution pictures it will be > necessary to construct an analog data importer but that will likely just be a computer with a > slightly modified sound card and some software. > > keep in mind that to view organic (nonmetallic) things you will need a gold sputterer. > > -jake > > On Tue, 11 Jun 2013, Ryan Bethencourt wrote: > > Hi Jake, > I'd be very happy to help transport the scanning electron microscope and if > it can't fit into Sudo Room, I'd also love to float the idea of potentially > housing it at Counter Culture Labs (the Sudo room DIY Bio offshoot) when we > eventually open up. Any thoughts? > > How big is the SEM (I know some of them can be huge which might prohibit > location)? > > All the best, > Ryan > > Best, > Ryan > > > On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 6:33 PM, Jake <jake(a)spaz.org> wrote: > sudoroom is being offered a scanning electron microscope (by Dr. > X). > > it comes with all the stuff and actually works, but it requires > a bit of knowledge to operate it. unfortunately Mr. X is not > available to train us how to operate it, however Chris Murphy > may be available and knows how it works. > > It would take up about 30 square feet of space including the > place where the operators sit or stand. It is not computerized > like the one at Pumping Station One, it is an analog machine. > Pictures can be taken at high resolution by long-exposure photo > of the CRT on the front of the machine, or we can build an > analog data importer to reconstruct images at much higher > resolution if we desire. > > The cash price of this SEM is $10 in gas and tolls, I will > provide the vehicle and movement. The rest of the price of the > machine in blood and sacrifice is in the time and energy to > learn its intricicies and idiosynchracies while learning about > vacuum pumps and vacuum oil, and how not to let vacuum oil > contaminate your vacuum and get all over your filament. > > https://noisebridge.net/wiki/SEM > > ironically, one of the reasons it doesn't work as well at > noisebridge is because the whole place shakes when the city > buses ride by. and sudoroom is apparently directly over the > bart tunnel so i wonder how different it will be. > > -jake > _______________________________________________ > sudo-discuss mailing list > sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org > http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss > > > > > -- > Ryan Bethencourt > > Tel: (415) 825 2705 > ryan.bethencourt(a)gmail.com > > www.bamh1.com > www.linkedin.com/in/bethencourt > www.logos-press.com/books/biotechnology_business_development.php > > > _______________________________________________ > sudo-discuss mailing list > sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org > http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Counter Culture Labs" > group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to > east-bay-diybio+unsubscribe(a)googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > > > > > > -- > Ryan Bethencourt > > Tel: (415) 825 2705 > ryan.bethencourt(a)gmail.com > > www.bamh1.com > www.linkedin.com/in/bethencourt > www.logos-press.com/books/biotechnology_business_development.php > > > > > -- > Ryan Bethencourt > > Tel: (415) 825 2705 > ryan.bethencourt(a)gmail.com > > www.bamh1.com > www.linkedin.com/in/bethencourt > www.logos-press.com/books/biotechnology_business_development.php > > >

12 years, 1 month

Our Time Lapse prototype

by mattsenate＠gmail.com

Hey all, There was a link sent to the Nerds for Nature email list about using community photographs to collect data for natural spaces, parks, etc. You set up a single station with a guide for your camera, let folks take photographs with any device, gather them up, then use a photo stitcher to put together a timelapse. I think this is an excellent way to document moments at sudo negotiated by the consent of individuals and through human action, rather than a webcam and automated constant stream. Please leave the pedestal in its current position, there is tape on the floor so you can replace it if necessary. Thanks! // Matt

12 years, 1 month

DisasterRadio needs your android phones!

by Marc Juul

Hi! The DisasterRadio project is in use of android phones for testing DisasterMap application. If you have an old android phone that you're not using, we're happy to accept loans or donations! DisasterRadio project wiki page: https://sudoroom.org/wiki/DisasterRadio -- Marc

12 years, 1 month

Fwd: Children/Security/Janitorial issues.....

by Matthew Senate

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Laurie Cooperman Rosen <Lscoop(a)comcast.net> Date: Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 6:03 PM Subject: RE: Children/Security/Janitorial issues..... To: Matthew Senate <mattsenate(a)gmail.com> Hi Matthew…**** I think a meeting would be best because there are so many issues. I agree that the confrontation was bad, and that George has a problem when something hurts him deeply. Hopefully those who know him understand that he has a huge heart, and repays kindness with kindness, but has a hard time handling any type of abuse relating to people, animals or the building, and he simply can’t control his emotions and what he says when a violent incident occurs that is uncalled for. Accusations were not made at a particular person but there was ranting about the lack of control in the evenings and lack of responsibility/training/accountability for those using the premises that allowed this to happen, and in that he was righteous. **** The problem boils down to the security in the building. Doors are being left open in the evening and are not being monitored. People not affiliated with the group having an event can enter, hide, and do what they want later (which only by INCREDIBLE luck has not been grand theft thus far). We won’t be able to continue the late hours and will have to shut the building down after a certain time in the evening UNLESS we have a direct responsible person on-site that is trustworthy, has his/her own security code, and is fully conversant with the shutting down procedures and who also knows which doors should be shut (and when) throughout the entire 2141 floor during the evening. It’s not ok for The Sudo Room (or the Public School) to leave it to the last member staying late to shut down and monitor what is happening in the building if that person is not trained and knowledgeable and does not have his/her own security code.**** Sometimes people in 2141 leave the door from the office corridor to the bathrooms open when they should not. This has never been a problem until recently, when traffic started coming in from the rear door. In the past all traffic came in from the front door. The person in charge should make sure that the rear door from the bathrooms into that corridor is always locked throughout the evening.**** We have fixed the lock on the 22nd St. entrance so there should no longer be a reason to keep that door open during non-business hours (during business hours when certain hair stylists are there it might be kept open, because the stylists can’t use your security buzz-in system….something that should be rectified and would help building security IMMENSELY. I have also noticed that even when not being buzzed in the elevator is always accessible…something that should not be the case). **** We are now getting calls up until as late as 3am on a fairly regular basis (one at 3am this past weekend—usually more like until 11:30 on weekdays and 12-12:30am on weekends), and it is almost at the point where we are throwing our hands up and saying “don’t send the police” at a time when it is possible that a robbery COULD be in process or the building could be open to theft in the middle of the night, because we don’t know who is in charge or who to call at that hour. **** For our part, we need to put in more cameras in a couple of places, although I will draw the line at having them in a restroom stall. We met the gentleman who was likely the last person there the night of the awful event, and we believe that although his group was not directly responsible, he did say that nobody checked the restrooms before leaving, which should not have been the case. For both security and for those that arrive in the morning, we are now asking that after every evening group meets that the restrooms be checked, excess trash disposed of and paper towels/toilet paper replaced as needed. We have never been responsible for cleanup after events and since what has been happening there has been way beyond normal usage, we ask that you get together with the Public School to purchase some extra toilet paper/paper towels to keep on hand and to make sure that the restrooms are clean, stocked and ready for use when folks arrive in the a.m. The person in charge for the evening (see more on that below) should be in charge of that (janitorial/security) aspect as well. We will continue to come in late afternoons to take care of trash that builds up during the daytime. In order for this to happen we will ask on every evening if your groups have people there after 9pm that we have the name/phone number of the person on the premises who will be closing up and whom we can contact in case of security issues. It is possible for you (and a couple of others from The Sudo Room & Public School as designated by us) to be able to give people temporary codes for the security system if a person is trained but will not have access to the building on a regular basis. The responsible people may give out “one time” security codes as needed, with the ability to call those codes in directly to Sonitrol (you would use your own passcode when calling them, and then give them the name of the temporary person and temporary passcode) as the responsible person allowed to give out additional temporary codes. **** Also, George had me take care of the recycling on Saturday while he was dealing with the restroom incident. We should not have to be doing that. It took at least an hour to sort through the massive amount of glass to make sure that the insides of the bottles were cleaned out and that the plastic and glass (recyclable) was separated from the cans (which are returned for deposit). In that mess was also a modicum of some gross garbage that found its way into the recycling. We ask that this be done for us (glass-plastic separated, washed, into one set of plastic bags, and clean rinsed aluminum cans into another) and we will be happy to continue to haul them away, unless you prefer to haul them away yourselves—at this time the aluminum cans bring in a small amount of money after amassed for a month or two but the rest goes in our recycle can at home. When unwashed they attract all kinds of bugs and animals which is why they need to be cleaned out if we are to take them.**** I think that this and the other message covers all of the main issues. There is more to discuss if a related but separate group wants to be holding some child care sessions on the premises, but I think that should be via a conversation with all parties present to address issues of permits, security, insurance and likely additional rent.**** I think this is a fairly thorough response to most of the items, except the one (child care) that will require more discussion, because we don’t want to see anybody spend money for permitting or separate child care insurance until a more full understanding and agreement is made between all participating parties. Obviously, at this point in a lot of ways it would be much easier if the Sudo Room and related parties were to expand into some additional space so that more of our costs for that space are covered and so that we can put some better security features in place and have less worry about constantly having to clear out excess furnishings, objects and garbage that do not belong in the large common space, as well as our complete inability to rent out space to unrelated parties on any regular basis with the way the space is being used. At this point the headaches, stress, lack of sleep (for us) and stress on the building contents (i.e. walls, carpeting) and vulnerability of the building and its tenants are not aligned with the amount of rent received from your groups. That is not in any way to say that we don’t support and love what your groups are doing……just that we very much would like to have it work and be a win-win for all of us, without putting our other tenants at risk.**** Your thoughts would be much appreciated.**** Laurie**** ** ** ** ** ** ** *From:* Matthew Senate [mailto:mattsenate@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, September 11, 2013 4:48 PM *To:* Laurie Cooperman Rosen *Subject:* Re: Children**** ** ** Laurie,**** ** ** Thanks for replying briefly, when do you expect you will be able to send a full response? We also need to address the incident on this past Saturday, which was another unacceptable confrontation and accusation.**** ** ** Thanks, Matt**** ** ** On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Laurie Cooperman Rosen <Lscoop(a)comcast.net> wrote:**** Hi Matt-**** I received your note and drafted a response that night, but didn’t mail it out because I wanted to make sure George has nothing to add first. You will have it this weekend. The number one concern (before even anything else) is that WE are not insured for this and have received no evidence of coverage from your group either. At this point everybody who has any visitors on a regular basis MUST have insurance coverage with us as named insureds, and we at this point need to enforce that. Next on the list are permitting related issues from the City of Oakland for children to be allowed in any kind of day care setting, and also arrangements that will need to be made by your group (and the School too) to take care of janitorial during and immediately after any group activities being held there. This is not necessarily inclusive, but a start. We can discuss the possibility of this happening (allowing children in eventually), but not until these and other issues are fully addressed. I apologize for the miscommunications on both sides that caused George to get upset about this and perhaps act too heated, but it was not without reason (given that he assumed that the communications had been disbursed), and for the time being we need to start with the insurance issue because it looks like that will be required because of all of the traffic whether children are able to use the space eventually or not.**** Sorry, I worked on the email and saved it and was waiting for George to have time to look at it. The first month always keeps us both hopping and we only pass like ships in the night!**** Laurie**** **** **** *From:* Matthew Senate [mailto:mattsenate@gmail.com] *Sent:* Friday, September 06, 2013 1:38 PM *To:* Laurie Cooperman Rosen *Subject:* Re: Children**** **** Laurie,**** **** Please let me know when you have a chance to read our note, even if you are unable to respond immediately.**** **** Thanks, Matt**** **** On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 11:23 PM, Matthew Senate <mattsenate(a)gmail.com> wrote:**** Hi Laurie, **** This week George addressed a group of folks in the common area outside of Sudo Room and the Public School regarding the presence of minors in the building. His behavior was confrontational, hostile, loud, and very upsetting to many of those who were present, including some parentally-accompanied minors. There has unfortunately been a series of miscommunications about this issue, and we are dedicated foremost to resolving it amicably. **** First, thank you for communicating the building's policies on minors via email. Unfortunately, due to a lapse in our own internal communication, the contents of your email were not conveyed sufficiently to the relevant sudo room members before Wednesday of this week. Please understand this was a lapse in communication that has been rectified. **** Secondly, since early June, every Tuesday evening parent-supervised minors have attended sudo room. We provide no supervision services for minors. In fact, we provide no services to customers (we don't have customers) as we are a membership association. It was unclear that this event was specifically of any concern since it followed the requirement of supervision by parents. We are willing to meet the necessary requirements to ensure that you and George are provided with the appropriate advanced notification of any planned future sudo room events involving supervised minors and their parents. It is relevant to note that in the past we have allowed accompanied minors to be in the "Art Room" and not use common space, but in recent instances the common room has been used as well. Further, since we are interested in being as accessible as possible to different communities and demographics, we would like to clarify what opportunities there might be (through city services, insurance, waivers, etc.) for minors to be in the building in ways other than those outlined in your email. **** Thirdly, regarding the damage to the bathroom you discuss in your email, we understand your concerns and are sorry that it happened. We have raised awareness in hopes of preventing instances like this from happening in the future. While we are happy to take shared responsibility for ensuring the bathrooms are clean and usable, we want to communicate that we are not aware of any evidence that the minors who have been at sudo room were responsible for the damage. We fully support your desire to keep all parts of the space (including the bathrooms) vandalism-free, clean, and usable, so we have made all sudo room members aware of this incident, reinforced the expectations surrounding bathroom cleanliness, and reiterated the policy that children should not use bathrooms unaccompanied. Please let us know if you encounter any problems with the bathrooms in the future so that we can take appropriate action. However, we also ask for understanding that if there are problems with a shared space in the building, that absent specific evidence, sudo room may not have been the source of a particular problem. **** Finally, we would like to share with you a few of our expectations as lessees that we hope will help us continue to stay in this building that we have been very happy to rent for the last 9 months: **** Our Expectations: **** * That issues with our use of common space or our use of our rented "Art Room" be conveyed in writing, with disrespectful confrontations being completely unacceptable, in any circumstances. **** * Consistent with Sudo Room standards, that minors continue to be able to participate at Sudo Room, provided they are accompanied by parents or a legal guardian. **** * To work together with you as we grow, which requires we be accessible to more communities and demographics. **** * To consider options for mitigating liability through additional insurance, waivers, etc.**** Thanks, Matt**** **** **** ** **

12 years, 1 month

Discussion on Neurodegenerative disease - Idealab: Journal club - Tomorrow (Wed Sept 18th) at 5.30pm PST!

by Ryan Bethencourt

Dear All, Ever wonder what might be behind Alzheimer's, Parkinson's, ALS and many more neurodegenerative diseases? Could it be misfolded proteins? *Neurodegenerative diseases discussion - Idealab - Journal club - Tomorrow (Wed) 5.30pm PST Online video conference* Tomorrow (Wednesday) at 5.30pm PST, I'll be leading a discussion, co-hosted by Nina on Self-propagation of pathogenic protein aggregates in neurodegenerative diseases and I would love to have anyone that has experience or interest in the Neurodegenerative diseases to join us for broad ranging discussions! Please feel free to sign up below for the free Idealab discussion co-hosted by Nina and several Biohacker spaces/groups: http://www.meetup.com/Berkeley-Biolabs/events/138879892/ *Dedicating this discussion to Les Halpin:* I'd also like to dedicate this discussion to the patients who are suffering and need our help in finding cures to these terminal diseases and in particular a friend of mine, Les Halpin, who passed away at the weekend due to ALS. Les was a serial entrepreneur who funded a lot of research on ALS, was my fellow co-founder at Halpin Neurosciences (which led to the identification of J147 by Eric Valor for ALS) and he also developed the Halpin Protocol to accelerate the development of therapies for life threatening diseases in the UK. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/10314789/Motor-neurone-disease… Come and join us for a discussion on Neurodegenerative diseases, protein misfolding and therapeutic interventions tomorrow! All the best, Ryan -- Ryan Bethencourt Tel: (415) 825 2705 Conf Call: (650) 741 5013 ryan.bethencourt(a)gmail.com http://www.litmususa.com/ http://berkeleybiolabs.com/ www.bamh1.com www.linkedin.com/in/bethencourt www.logos-press.com/books/biotechnology_business_development.php

12 years, 1 month

Fwd: Re: plan for empty bottles at sudo?

by Marina Kukso

hi everyone, just wanted to let everyone know about the fate of the bottles. i know you've all been waiting. - marina ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Raymond Lai <raymond.wm.lai(a)gmail.com> Date: Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 11:36 AM Subject: Re: Re: [sudo-discuss] plan for empty bottles at sudo? To: Marina Kukso <marina.kukso(a)gmail.com> Cc: Vian <vian.veritas(a)gmail.com>, "Morten H. D. Fuglsang" < vallebo(a)gmail.com> Hello all, SudoMate can use the bottles. Vian is out of town, but when he comes back we can move the bottle out of sudo room. :) Cheers, Ray On Sun, Sep 15, 2013 at 10:23 PM, Marina Kukso <marina.kukso(a)gmail.com>wrote: > Do you guys need and/or plan to use all the bottles at sudo? > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "Morten H. D. Fuglsang" <vallebo(a)gmail.com> > Date: Sep 15, 2013 3:11 PM > Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] plan for empty bottles at sudo? > To: "Marina Kukso" <marina.kukso(a)gmail.com> > > No, there is no plan. :) > > A subiir batch is approx 80 regular 12oz bottles, and we've found that > having around 150 bottles around is a good number because a) it fits inside > cupboards and b) it's sufficient for 2 batches of bottling. > > Sudomate brewing and bottling ops have moved to outside sudoroom, and I do > not know if the mate crew are relying on bottle collection from sudo room - > Ray / Vien (sp?), do you know? > > I'll take responsibility for clearing up the current bottle mess. I do not > know when. I've tried a bit of arranging before, but so far all attempts of > bottle-order have ended in bottle-chaos. Any suggestions welcome! > > > Make a great day, > Morten H. D. Fuglsang > US: +1 415 799 6931 // skype: FlyvendeHest > > > On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 7:44 PM, Marina Kukso <marina.kukso(a)gmail.com>wrote: > >> there are many of them. they keep growing in number. do the folks who >> reuse the bottles have a timeline for when they plan to use them? >> >> - marina >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sudo-discuss mailing list >> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss >> >> >

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