On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 12:36 PM, Romy Ilano <romy(a)snowyla.com> wrote: Some of us had been thinking about having a 5 minutes of fame every month/week where people can show their projects. Maybe we could do that and encourage that presenters invite other people to work with them? How about first wednesday's? Every first wednesday of the month we have a 5mof? Noisebridge has 5mof on third Thursday's. Who wants to help make the first sudo room 5mof happen on Wednesday March 1st? Here's how folks can help: * INVITE ALL YOUR FRIENDS! * Sign up for a 5 minute spot to show / talk about something! ** It can be anything! Just think of this as show and tell, with the show part being optional :) * Sign up to help set up audio and video in advance * Sign up to help set up chairs / pews before the event and/or move them away after * Bring food, snacks or drinks for sharing * Bring plates, bowls, cups or cutlery (we have some but not enough) I put a tentative schedule here: https://sudoroom.org/wiki/5MoF Just reply in this thread if you want to help out or present! -- marc/juul

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Personally, I've always been surprised how come Sudo doesn't have more team projects. With a few notable exceptions like SudoMesh, it's mostly a bunch of individuals coming to socialize or work on their own thing. In contrast, most activity at CCL is centered around team projects. I don't think that's due to any inherent difference between biology and software/hardware/electronics. Just that we've intentionally nurtured team projects, because we knew it would be harder to reach critical mass given the smaller audience for biohacking. Briefly, here's what has worked well for us at CCL and at BioCurious: 1) Do a brainstorming meeting to see what topics have the most critical mass. 2) Find one or two people willing to lead/facilitate the project. They don't need to be an expert or a Leader - just someone willing to commit to show up every week and provide consistency and continuity to the project. 3) Put a weekly meeting on the calendar, and start meeting like clockwork Having reliable, consistent meetings and someone who helps organize the group seems to matter more than exactly how decisions are being made. YMMV... Patrik On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 12:36 PM, Romy Ilano <romy(a)snowyla.com> wrote:

On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 9:46 AM, Romy Ilano <romy(a)snowyla.com> wrote: Sudomesh seems to do pretty well though! That's an excellent example of the kind of team projects I was suggesting. (If it were up to me, I would have SudoMesh meet *in* Sudo Room though, rather than treating it as a completely separate spinoff project) Not sure I understand why you consider that a benefit,or more conducive to team projects. And note that there are plenty of purely bioinformatics or software-based projects that CCL could be working on as well. It's just that nobody has taken the initiative of creating a group project around that so far. Patrik

We have well-attended hacknights every Tuesday at 7:30 pm. We've been having them in a different part of Omni because sudo room's hardware hacknight is at the same time and it gets to be too many people in sudo room at the same time.

i think it's sad that hardware hacking tusdays, CCL social night, and sudomesh all happen at the same time. On Wed, 8 Feb 2017, Marc Juul wrote: On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 3:38 PM, Romy Ilano <romy(a)snowyla.com> wrote: sudo-discuss mailing list sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org https://sudoroom.org/lists/listinfo/sudo-discuss

i for one can't shift it up very easily - omni finance wg on mondays, sudo meetings on wednesdays, delegates or commons meetings on thursdays, and go for it if you wanna take fridays! weekends no-go. Jenny Help open a people-powered common space in Oakland, California! https://omnicommons.org/donate `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~` "Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories." -Laurie Anderson "Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it." -Hannah Arendt "To define is to kill. To suggest is to create." -Stéphane Mallarmé ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~` On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 3:06 AM, Jenny Ryan <tunabananas(a)gmail.com> wrote: well, you were the one to schedule hardware hacking tuesdays well over a year after both sudomesh meetings and biohacker socials were already going strong. so that's on you to a pretty large extent. no hate, just sayin'... Jenny Help open a people-powered common space in Oakland, California! https://omnicommons.org/donate `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~` "Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories." -Laurie Anderson "Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it." -Hannah Arendt "To define is to kill. To suggest is to create." -Stéphane Mallarmé ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~` On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 2:23 AM, Jake <jake(a)spaz.org> wrote: i think it's sad that hardware hacking tusdays, CCL social night, and sudomesh all happen at the same time. On Wed, 8 Feb 2017, Marc Juul wrote: On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 3:38 PM, Romy Ilano <romy(a)snowyla.com> wrote: Patrik, Thanks for bringing up SudoMesh! Yeah, they were very project-oriented. Maybe they are working outside of SudoRoom lately to clear themselves of the history. There seemed to be some rough patches, hopefully they will come back again! We have well-attended hacknights every Tuesday at 7:30 pm. We've been having them in a different part of Omni because sudo room's hardware hacknight is at the same time and it gets to be too many people in sudo room at the same time. -- marc/juul

I just want to a note sobering note of realism around this fantastic conversation. I think one of the reasons why we don’t see more project based work at both spaces is that people are just struggling to finish whatever project earns them money from day to day. I think we could really get more people involved if there was some promise of personal fame or fortune. Just because it’s “open” doesn’t mean there can’t be prize money. So what cool contests should we consider entering? On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 2:40 PM, Patrik D'haeseleer <patrikd(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks for the realism Cere! I think contests and hackathons can be fun, but so many of them are heavily corporate. Is there anything that wouldn't be a big turnoff to hackers? I guess a non-profit or "for the good of humanity" deal would be cool. I know when people work on SudoMesh there is a strong "Yeah I'm doing this for the good of humanity" feeling. *Porftolio Competition* - From time to time we've gotten code bootcamp people wandering around our hackrrspace. I would always tell them to update the wiki, find a cool project go finish that would benefit the space. *Feeling Good for Finishing Stuff Reward* - For me personally, there comes a reward in finishing off a project since it's so hard to finish one in general. I dunno, good ideas! ============================= Romy Ilano romy(a)snowyla.com On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 3:40 PM, Cere Misc <cere.misc(a)gmail.com> wrote: _______________________________________________ sudo-discuss mailing list sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org https://sudoroom.org/lists/listinfo/sudo-discuss

Personally, I've always been surprised how come Sudo doesn't have more team projects. With a few notable exceptions like SudoMesh, it's mostly a bunch of individuals coming to socialize or work on their own thing. In contrast, most activity at CCL is centered around team projects. I don't think that's due to any inherent difference between biology and software/hardware/electronics. Just that we've intentionally nurtured team projects, because we knew it would be harder to reach critical mass given the smaller audience for biohacking. Briefly, here's what has worked well for us at CCL and at BioCurious: 1) Do a brainstorming meeting to see what topics have the most critical mass. 2) Find one or two people willing to lead/facilitate the project. They don't need to be an expert or a Leader - just someone willing to commit to show up every week and provide consistency and continuity to the project. 3) Put a weekly meeting on the calendar, and start meeting like clockwork Having reliable, consistent meetings and someone who helps organize the group seems to matter more than exactly how decisions are being made. YMMV... Patrik On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 12:36 PM, Romy Ilano <romy(a)snowyla.com> wrote: