23 Apr
2013
23 Apr
'13
9:19 a.m.
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 5:16 AM, Romy Ilano <romy(a)snowyla.com> wrote:
- Could we have a rule of SudoRoom members not
interacting with him?
Who is this rule for? Do you appreciate the actual problem? He
literally has a habit of going up to people using the bathroom and
yelling at them through the door.
I don't want SR to move either.
23 Apr
23 Apr
9:20 a.m.
New subject: "I will make them disabled"
Then how is SR going to make a safe non-abusive space with this guy as
landlord?
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 9:19 AM, Yardena Cohen <yardenack(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 5:16 AM, Romy Ilano
<romy(a)snowyla.com> wrote:
- Could we have a rule of SudoRoom members not
interacting with him?
Who is this rule for? Do you appreciate the actual problem? He
literally has a habit of going up to people using the bathroom and
yelling at them through the door.
I don't want SR to move either.
_______________________________________________
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sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org
http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss
11:22 a.m.
New subject: "I will make them disabled"
It's very difficult to have a landlord with no clear boundaries. I get the
feeling we are not the kind of tenants he wants to be working with, or is
capable of working with. I have my own share of George stories.
If we want to stay in the space, I would suggest that we be proactive in
getting him to modify the lease so that we can all be on the same page
with expectations. I think it's also fair to say that we've pushed pretty
hard on him as well with what his expectation may have been for us, for
example having large events in the common area is no in the lease as far as
I know, but he has allowed it to happen, but because we don't have an
actual agreement hes coming back
with arbitrary enforcement of arbitrary rules.
so we either:
1. move
or
2. make sure that our expectations from and for the landlord are in writing
or
3. Continue to take his arbitrary rants at random members of sudo room, and
just placate (or ignore) him as much as possible (what we are already
doing).
--Andrew
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 9:20 AM, Gregg Horton <greggahorton(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
Then how is SR going to make a safe non-abusive space
with this guy as
landlord?
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 9:19 AM, Yardena Cohen <yardenack(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
--
-------
Andrew Lowe
Cell: 831-332-2507
http://roshambomedia.com
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 5:16 AM, Romy Ilano
<romy(a)snowyla.com> wrote:
_______________________________________________
sudo-discuss mailing list
sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org
http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss
- Could we have a rule of SudoRoom members not
interacting with him?
Who is this rule for? Do you appreciate the actual problem? He
literally has a habit of going up to people using the bathroom and
yelling at them through the door.
I don't want SR to move either.
_______________________________________________
sudo-discuss mailing list
sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org
http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss
4:01 p.m.
New subject: "I will make them disabled"
Disable our leaving the space, George!
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/off/3734928687.html
Franklin at 19th!
$1500 for 1100 square feet. Also in the classy building is a whole floor 4200 square feet
at .95/sq ft. Perhaps we can inquire about part of the larger floor or arrange to share it
with Sudoers who need office space (RoShamBo, Atomic, et al).
Sudo room is its esteemed, talented, brilliant and diverse members; not the space we chose
to rent.
Land lords are reptiles.
Hack the marketplace!
Raymond Lai
Ice Cream Man
Atomic Ice Cream
Facebook.com/MotoAtomico
On Apr 23, 2013, at 11:22 AM, Andrew <andrew(a)roshambomedia.com> wrote:
It's very difficult to have a landlord with no
clear boundaries. I get the feeling we are not the kind of tenants he wants to be working
with, or is capable of working with. I have my own share of George stories.
If we want to stay in the space, I would suggest that we be proactive in getting him to
modify the lease so that we can all be on the same page with expectations. I think
it's also fair to say that we've pushed pretty hard on him as well with what his
expectation may have been for us, for example having large events in the common area is no
in the lease as far as I know, but he has allowed it to happen, but because we don't
have an actual agreement hes coming back with arbitrary enforcement of arbitrary rules.
so we either:
1. move
or
2. make sure that our expectations from and for the landlord are in writing
or
3. Continue to take his arbitrary rants at random members of sudo room, and just placate
(or ignore) him as much as possible (what we are already doing).
--Andrew
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 9:20 AM, Gregg Horton <greggahorton(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Then how is SR going to make a safe non-abusive space with this guy as landlord?
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 9:19 AM, Yardena Cohen <yardenack(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 5:16 AM, Romy Ilano <romy(a)snowyla.com> wrote:
- Could we have a rule of SudoRoom members not
interacting with him?
Who is this rule for? Do you appreciate the actual problem? He
literally has a habit of going up to people using the bathroom and
yelling at them through the door.
I don't want SR to move either.
_______________________________________________
sudo-discuss mailing list
sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org
http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss
_______________________________________________
sudo-discuss mailing list
sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org
http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss
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-------
Andrew Lowe
Cell: 831-332-2507
http://roshambomedia.com
_______________________________________________
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sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org
http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss
4:37 p.m.
New subject: "I will make them disabled"
WANT! Ray, can you email them?
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Ray Lai <raymond.wm.lai(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Disable our leaving the space, George!
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/off/3734928687.html
Franklin at 19th!
$1500 for 1100 square feet. Also in the classy building is a whole floor
4200 square feet at .95/sq ft. Perhaps we can inquire about part of the
larger floor or arrange to share it with Sudoers who need office space
(RoShamBo, Atomic, et al).
Sudo room is its esteemed, talented, brilliant and diverse members; not
the space we chose to rent.
Land lords are reptiles.
Hack the marketplace!
Raymond Lai
Ice Cream Man
Atomic Ice Cream
Facebook.com/MotoAtomico
On Apr 23, 2013, at 11:22 AM, Andrew <andrew(a)roshambomedia.com> wrote:
It's very difficult to have a landlord with no clear boundaries. I get the
feeling we are not the kind of tenants he wants to be working with, or is
capable of working with. I have my own share of George stories.
If we want to stay in the space, I would suggest that we be proactive in
getting him to modify the lease so that we can all be on the same page
with expectations. I think it's also fair to say that we've pushed pretty
hard on him as well with what his expectation may have been for us, for
example having large events in the common area is no in the lease as far as
I know, but he has allowed it to happen, but because we don't have an
actual agreement hes coming back
with arbitrary enforcement of arbitrary rules.
so we either:
1. move
or
2. make sure that our expectations from and for the landlord are in writing
or
3. Continue to take his arbitrary rants at random members of sudo room,
and just placate (or ignore) him as much as possible (what we are already
doing).
--Andrew
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 9:20 AM, Gregg Horton <greggahorton(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
--
-------
Andrew Lowe
Cell: 831-332-2507
http://roshambomedia.com
Then how is SR going to make a safe non-abusive
space with this guy as
landlord?
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 9:19 AM, Yardena Cohen <yardenack(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
--
-------
Andrew Lowe
Cell: 831-332-2507
http://roshambomedia.com
_______________________________________________
sudo-discuss mailing list
sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org
http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 5:16 AM, Romy Ilano
<romy(a)snowyla.com> wrote:
_______________________________________________
sudo-discuss mailing list
sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org
http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss
- Could we have a rule of SudoRoom members not
interacting with him?
Who is this rule for? Do you appreciate the actual problem? He
literally has a habit of going up to people using the bathroom and
yelling at them through the door.
I don't want SR to move either.
_______________________________________________
sudo-discuss mailing list
sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org
http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss
5:01 p.m.
New subject: "I will make them disabled"
This looks like an amazing opportunity. Nice catch, Ray!
I just sent them an email on behalf of sudo room, asking if we could set up
a time to tour the space, meet the landlord, and discuss compatibility.
We're currently paying $2/sqft, so this could be ideal. Marc has also been
looking into potential spaces that are zoned for bio research.
Jenny
http://jennyryan.net
http://thepyre.org
http://thevirtualcampfire.org
http://technomadic.tumblr.com
`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
"Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories."
-Laurie Anderson
"Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it."
-Hannah Arendt
"To define is to kill. To suggest is to create."
-Stéphane Mallarmé
~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 4:37 PM, Andrew <andrew(a)roshambomedia.com> wrote:
WANT! Ray, can you email them?
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Ray Lai <raymond.wm.lai(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Disable our leaving the space, George!
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/off/3734928687.html
Franklin at 19th!
$1500 for 1100 square feet. Also in the classy building is a whole floor
4200 square feet at .95/sq ft. Perhaps we can inquire about part of the
larger floor or arrange to share it with Sudoers who need office space
(RoShamBo, Atomic, et al).
Sudo room is its esteemed, talented, brilliant and diverse members; not
the space we chose to rent.
Land lords are reptiles.
Hack the marketplace!
Raymond Lai
Ice Cream Man
Atomic Ice Cream
Facebook.com/MotoAtomico
On Apr 23, 2013, at 11:22 AM, Andrew <andrew(a)roshambomedia.com> wrote:
It's very difficult to have a landlord with no clear boundaries. I get
the feeling we are not the kind of tenants he wants to be working with, or
is capable of working with. I have my own share of George stories.
If we want to stay in the space, I would suggest that we be proactive in
getting him to modify the lease so that we can all be on the same page
with expectations. I think it's also fair to say that we've pushed pretty
hard on him as well with what his expectation may have been for us, for
example having large events in the common area is no in the lease as far as
I know, but he has allowed it to happen, but because we don't have an
actual agreement hes coming back
with arbitrary enforcement of arbitrary rules.
so we either:
1. move
or
2. make sure that our expectations from and for the landlord are in
writing
or
3. Continue to take his arbitrary rants at random members of sudo room,
and just placate (or ignore) him as much as possible (what we are already
doing).
--Andrew
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 9:20 AM, Gregg Horton <greggahorton(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
--
-------
Andrew Lowe
Cell: 831-332-2507
http://roshambomedia.com
_______________________________________________
sudo-discuss mailing list
sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org
http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss
Then how is SR going to make a safe non-abusive
space with this guy as
landlord?
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 9:19 AM, Yardena Cohen <yardenack(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
--
-------
Andrew Lowe
Cell: 831-332-2507
http://roshambomedia.com
_______________________________________________
sudo-discuss mailing list
sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org
http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 5:16 AM, Romy Ilano
<romy(a)snowyla.com> wrote:
> - Could we have a rule of SudoRoom members not interacting with him?
Who is this rule for? Do you appreciate the actual problem? He
literally has a habit of going up to people using the bathroom and
yelling at them through the door.
I don't want SR to move either.
_______________________________________________
sudo-discuss mailing list
sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org
http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss
_______________________________________________
sudo-discuss mailing list
sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org
http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss
5:17 p.m.
New subject: "I will make them disabled"
We should bring this up with The Public School as well, and see if they
might be willing to move with us. I'm sure the situation with George is
troublesome for them, too.
Bill
On 04/23/2013 05:01 PM, Jenny Ryan wrote:
This looks like an amazing opportunity. Nice catch,
Ray!
I just sent them an email on behalf of sudo room, asking if we could set up
a time to tour the space, meet the landlord, and discuss compatibility.
We're currently paying $2/sqft, so this could be ideal. Marc has also been
looking into potential spaces that are zoned for bio research.
Jenny
http://jennyryan.net
http://thepyre.org
http://thevirtualcampfire.org
http://technomadic.tumblr.com
`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
"Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories."
-Laurie Anderson
"Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it."
-Hannah Arendt
"To define is to kill. To suggest is to create."
-Stéphane Mallarmé
~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 4:37 PM, Andrew <andrew(a)roshambomedia.com> wrote:
WANT! Ray, can you email them?
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Ray Lai <raymond.wm.lai(a)gmail.com> wrote:
_______________________________________________
sudo-discuss mailing list
sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org
http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss
Disable our leaving the space, George!
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/off/3734928687.html
Franklin at 19th!
$1500 for 1100 square feet. Also in the classy building is a whole floor
4200 square feet at .95/sq ft. Perhaps we can inquire about part of the
larger floor or arrange to share it with Sudoers who need office space
(RoShamBo, Atomic, et al).
Sudo room is its esteemed, talented, brilliant and diverse members; not
the space we chose to rent.
Land lords are reptiles.
Hack the marketplace!
Raymond Lai
Ice Cream Man
Atomic Ice Cream
Facebook.com/MotoAtomico
On Apr 23, 2013, at 11:22 AM, Andrew <andrew(a)roshambomedia.com> wrote:
It's very difficult to have a landlord with no clear boundaries. I get
the feeling we are not the kind of tenants he wants to be working with, or
is capable of working with. I have my own share of George stories.
If we want to stay in the space, I would suggest that we be proactive in
getting him to modify the lease so that we can all be on the same page
with expectations. I think it's also fair to say that we've pushed pretty
hard on him as well with what his expectation may have been for us, for
example having large events in the common area is no in the lease as far as
I know, but he has allowed it to happen, but because we don't have an
actual agreement hes coming back
with arbitrary enforcement of arbitrary rules.
so we either:
1. move
or
2. make sure that our expectations from and for the landlord are in
writing
or
3. Continue to take his arbitrary rants at random members of sudo room,
and just placate (or ignore) him as much as possible (what we are already
doing).
--Andrew
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 9:20 AM, Gregg Horton <greggahorton(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
--
-------
Andrew Lowe
Cell: 831-332-2507
http://roshambomedia.com
_______________________________________________
sudo-discuss mailing list
sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org
http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss
Then how is SR going to make a safe non-abusive
space with this guy as
landlord?
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 9:19 AM, Yardena Cohen <yardenack(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 5:16 AM, Romy Ilano <romy(a)snowyla.com> wrote:
>> - Could we have a rule of SudoRoom members not interacting with him?
>
> Who is this rule for? Do you appreciate the actual problem? He
> literally has a habit of going up to people using the bathroom and
> yelling at them through the door.
>
> I don't want SR to move either.
> _______________________________________________
> sudo-discuss mailing list
> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org
> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss
>
_______________________________________________
sudo-discuss mailing list
sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org
http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss
--
-------
Andrew Lowe
Cell: 831-332-2507
http://roshambomedia.com
_______________________________________________
sudo-discuss mailing list
sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org
http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss
5:19 p.m.
New subject: "I will make them disabled"
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So, a move is a pretty big step. Have there been any other issues with
the landlord? I do agree that gender sensitivity is important, and yet
if there aren't any other complaints, I wonder if it's something we
could work out with him.
On 4/23/13 5:17 PM, William Budington wrote:
We should bring this up with The Public School as
well, and see if
they might be willing to move with us. I'm sure the situation with
George is troublesome for them, too.
Bill
On 04/23/2013 05:01 PM, Jenny Ryan wrote:
This looks like an amazing opportunity. Nice
catch, Ray!
I just sent them an email on behalf of sudo room, asking if we
could set up a time to tour the space, meet the landlord, and
discuss compatibility.
We're currently paying $2/sqft, so this could be ideal. Marc has
also been looking into potential spaces that are zoned for bio
research.
Jenny http://jennyryan.net http://thepyre.org
http://thevirtualcampfire.org http://technomadic.tumblr.com
`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~` "Technology is the campfire
around which we tell our stories." -Laurie Anderson
"Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of
defining it." -Hannah Arendt
"To define is to kill. To suggest is to create." -Stéphane
Mallarmé ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 4:37 PM, Andrew
<andrew(a)roshambomedia.com> wrote:
_______________________________________________ sudo-discuss
mailing list sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org
http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss
WANT! Ray, can you email them?
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Ray Lai
<raymond.wm.lai(a)gmail.com> wrote:
_______________________________________________ sudo-discuss
mailing list sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org
http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss
Disable our leaving the space, George!
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/off/3734928687.html
Franklin at 19th!
$1500 for 1100 square feet. Also in the classy building is a
whole floor 4200 square feet at .95/sq ft. Perhaps we can
inquire about part of the larger floor or arrange to share it
with Sudoers who need office space (RoShamBo, Atomic, et
al).
Sudo room is its esteemed, talented, brilliant and diverse
members; not the space we chose to rent.
Land lords are reptiles.
Hack the marketplace!
Raymond Lai Ice Cream Man Atomic Ice Cream
Facebook.com/MotoAtomico
On Apr 23, 2013, at 11:22 AM, Andrew
<andrew(a)roshambomedia.com> wrote:
It's very difficult to have a landlord with no clear
boundaries. I get the feeling we are not the kind of tenants
he wants to be working with, or is capable of working with. I
have my own share of George stories.
If we want to stay in the space, I would suggest that we be
proactive in getting him to modify the lease so that we can
all be on the same page with expectations. I think it's also
fair to say that we've pushed pretty hard on him as well with
what his expectation may have been for us, for example having
large events in the common area is no in the lease as far as
I know, but he has allowed it to happen, but because we don't
have an actual agreement hes coming back with arbitrary
enforcement of arbitrary rules.
so we either:
1. move
or
2. make sure that our expectations from and for the landlord
are in writing
or
3. Continue to take his arbitrary rants at random members of
sudo room, and just placate (or ignore) him as much as
possible (what we are already doing).
--Andrew
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 9:20 AM, Gregg Horton
<greggahorton(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
> Then how is SR going to make a safe non-abusive space with
> this guy as landlord?
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 9:19 AM, Yardena Cohen
> <yardenack(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 5:16 AM, Romy Ilano
>> <romy(a)snowyla.com> wrote:
>>> - Could we have a rule of SudoRoom members not
>>> interacting with him?
>>
>> Who is this rule for? Do you appreciate the actual
>> problem? He literally has a habit of going up to people
>> using the bathroom and yelling at them through the door.
>>
>> I don't want SR to move either.
>> _______________________________________________
>> sudo-discuss mailing list
>> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org
>> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sudo-discuss mailing list sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org
> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss
>
>
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5:26 p.m.
New subject: "I will make them disabled"
Aestetix:
There have been other issues. I am wary of listing them out, but like I
said they all surround having no clear boundaries and expectations and his
communication style of just saying whats on his mind, maybe throwing in a
threat, and then leaving.
I think though in general we have been thinking about looking for a new
(bigger) space for awhile. No time like the present to start shopping
around. If we find something that fits in the budget and is close to bart
why not?
--Andrew
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 5:19 PM, aestetix <aestetix(a)aestetix.com> wrote:
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So, a move is a pretty big step. Have there been any other issues with
the landlord? I do agree that gender sensitivity is important, and yet
if there aren't any other complaints, I wonder if it's something we
could work out with him.
On 4/23/13 5:17 PM, William Budington wrote:
--
-------
Andrew Lowe
Cell: 831-332-2507
http://roshambomedia.com
We should bring this up with The Public School as
well, and see if
they might be willing to move with us. I'm sure the situation with
George is troublesome for them, too.
Bill
On 04/23/2013 05:01 PM, Jenny Ryan wrote:
This looks like an amazing opportunity. Nice
catch, Ray!
I just sent them an email on behalf of sudo room, asking if we
could set up a time to tour the space, meet the landlord, and
discuss compatibility.
We're currently paying $2/sqft, so this could be ideal. Marc has
also been looking into potential spaces that are zoned for bio
research.
Jenny http://jennyryan.net http://thepyre.org
http://thevirtualcampfire.org http://technomadic.tumblr.com
`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~` "Technology is the campfire
around which we tell our stories." -Laurie Anderson
"Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of
defining it." -Hannah Arendt
"To define is to kill. To suggest is to create." -Stéphane
Mallarmé ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 4:37 PM, Andrew
<andrew(a)roshambomedia.com> wrote:
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WANT! Ray, can you email them?
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Ray Lai
<raymond.wm.lai(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Disable our leaving the space, George!
>
> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/off/3734928687.html
>
> Franklin at 19th!
>
> $1500 for 1100 square feet. Also in the classy building is a
> whole floor 4200 square feet at .95/sq ft. Perhaps we can
> inquire about part of the larger floor or arrange to share it
> with Sudoers who need office space (RoShamBo, Atomic, et
> al).
>
> Sudo room is its esteemed, talented, brilliant and diverse
> members; not the space we chose to rent.
>
> Land lords are reptiles.
>
> Hack the marketplace!
>
> Raymond Lai Ice Cream Man Atomic Ice Cream
> Facebook.com/MotoAtomico
>
> On Apr 23, 2013, at 11:22 AM, Andrew
> <andrew(a)roshambomedia.com> wrote:
>
> It's very difficult to have a landlord with no clear
> boundaries. I get the feeling we are not the kind of tenants
> he wants to be working with, or is capable of working with. I
> have my own share of George stories.
>
> If we want to stay in the space, I would suggest that we be
> proactive in getting him to modify the lease so that we can
> all be on the same page with expectations. I think it's also
> fair to say that we've pushed pretty hard on him as well with
> what his expectation may have been for us, for example having
> large events in the common area is no in the lease as far as
> I know, but he has allowed it to happen, but because we don't
> have an actual agreement hes coming back with arbitrary
> enforcement of arbitrary rules.
>
> so we either:
>
> 1. move
>
> or
>
> 2. make sure that our expectations from and for the landlord
> are in writing
>
> or
>
> 3. Continue to take his arbitrary rants at random members of
> sudo room, and just placate (or ignore) him as much as
> possible (what we are already doing).
>
> --Andrew
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 9:20 AM, Gregg Horton
> <greggahorton(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
>
>> Then how is SR going to make a safe non-abusive space with
>> this guy as landlord?
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 9:19 AM, Yardena Cohen
>> <yardenack(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 5:16 AM, Romy Ilano
>>> <romy(a)snowyla.com> wrote:
>>>> - Could we have a rule of SudoRoom members not
>>>> interacting with him?
>>>
>>> Who is this rule for? Do you appreciate the actual
>>> problem? He literally has a habit of going up to people
>>> using the bathroom and yelling at them through the door.
>>>
>>> I don't want SR to move either.
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss
>>>
>>
>>
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New subject: "I will make them disabled"
Regarding our budget, I think that members in the past were expected to pay
more, and if asked, many would be willing to pay more if it were for a good
investment. Having a better deal on more space does seem to make sense to
me, if we can be sure it meets all our needs.
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 5:26 PM, Andrew <andrew(a)roshambomedia.com> wrote:
Aestetix:
There have been other issues. I am wary of listing them out, but like I
said they all surround having no clear boundaries and expectations and his
communication style of just saying whats on his mind, maybe throwing in a
threat, and then leaving.
I think though in general we have been thinking about looking for a new
(bigger) space for awhile. No time like the present to start shopping
around. If we find something that fits in the budget and is close to bart
why not?
--Andrew
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So, a move is a pretty big step. Have there been any other issues with
the landlord? I do agree that gender sensitivity is important, and yet
if there aren't any other complaints, I wonder if it's something we
could work out with him.
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We should bring this up with The Public School as
well, and see if
they might be willing to move with us. I'm sure the situation with
George is troublesome for them, too.
Bill
On 04/23/2013 05:01 PM, Jenny Ryan wrote:
This looks like an amazing opportunity. Nice
catch, Ray!
I just sent them an email on behalf of sudo room, asking if we
could set up a time to tour the space, meet the landlord, and
discuss compatibility.
We're currently paying $2/sqft, so this could be ideal. Marc has
also been looking into potential spaces that are zoned for bio
research.
Jenny http://jennyryan.net http://thepyre.org
http://thevirtualcampfire.org http://technomadic.tumblr.com
`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~` "Technology is the campfire
around which we tell our stories." -Laurie Anderson
"Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of
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"To define is to kill. To suggest is to create." -Stéphane
Mallarmé ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 4:37 PM, Andrew
<andrew(a)roshambomedia.com> wrote:
> WANT! Ray, can you email them?
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Ray Lai
> <raymond.wm.lai(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Disable our leaving the space, George!
>>
>> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/off/3734928687.html
>>
>> Franklin at 19th!
>>
>> $1500 for 1100 square feet. Also in the classy building is a
>> whole floor 4200 square feet at .95/sq ft. Perhaps we can
>> inquire about part of the larger floor or arrange to share it
>> with Sudoers who need office space (RoShamBo, Atomic, et
>> al).
>>
>> Sudo room is its esteemed, talented, brilliant and diverse
>> members; not the space we chose to rent.
>>
>> Land lords are reptiles.
>>
>> Hack the marketplace!
>>
>> Raymond Lai Ice Cream Man Atomic Ice Cream
>> Facebook.com/MotoAtomico
>>
>> On Apr 23, 2013, at 11:22 AM, Andrew
>> <andrew(a)roshambomedia.com> wrote:
>>
>> It's very difficult to have a landlord with no clear
>> boundaries. I get the feeling we are not the kind of tenants
>> he wants to be working with, or is capable of working with. I
>> have my own share of George stories.
>>
>> If we want to stay in the space, I would suggest that we be
>> proactive in getting him to modify the lease so that we can
>> all be on the same page with expectations. I think it's also
>> fair to say that we've pushed pretty hard on him as well with
>> what his expectation may have been for us, for example having
>> large events in the common area is no in the lease as far as
>> I know, but he has allowed it to happen, but because we don't
>> have an actual agreement hes coming back with arbitrary
>> enforcement of arbitrary rules.
>>
>> so we either:
>>
>> 1. move
>>
>> or
>>
>> 2. make sure that our expectations from and for the landlord
>> are in writing
>>
>> or
>>
>> 3. Continue to take his arbitrary rants at random members of
>> sudo room, and just placate (or ignore) him as much as
>> possible (what we are already doing).
>>
>> --Andrew
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 9:20 AM, Gregg Horton
>> <greggahorton(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
>>
>>> Then how is SR going to make a safe non-abusive space with
>>> this guy as landlord?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 9:19 AM, Yardena Cohen
>>> <yardenack(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 5:16 AM, Romy Ilano
>>>> <romy(a)snowyla.com> wrote:
>>>>> - Could we have a rule of SudoRoom members not
>>>>> interacting with him?
>>>>
>>>> Who is this rule for? Do you appreciate the actual
>>>> problem? He literally has a habit of going up to people
>>>> using the bathroom and yelling at them through the door.
>>>>
>>>> I don't want SR to move either.
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> sudo-discuss mailing list
>>>> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org
>>>> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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New subject: "I will make them disabled"
I completely understand why members in this thread want to move into a new
space, both for the comments from the landlord and for other reasons as
well (moar space!), but I'd definitely like to advocate that we proceed
with due diligence. Matt mentioned trying to start a process where we
continually understand the real estate market and what our options are...
With that in mind, maybe we can figure out a process where:
- we try to evaluate as many different spaces as possible, based on
criteria determined by consensus, and in those criteria...
- determine what's financially feasible, at what time period, with what
funding, etc. Rusty recently sent out that survey recently about funding,
and the few responses I read weren't at significantly higher price points,
though our questions centered around reserves.
I suppose that I see the comments from the landlord as a potential
additional reason to re-evaluate the space, but not one minimally
sufficient to immediately relocate.
As Bill mentioned, it'd be great to form some kind of exploratory committee
with the Public Schools. There's a lot of available commercial space out
there, and it'd be great to try and evaluate as much as we can.
If anything, this thread demonstrates that we have a lot of leverage in the
management of the space. We could probably leave pretty easily, and it's
likely that group consensus would be okay with that. At the very, very
least, we need to ask that he respectfully talk to our members. Or, for
that matter, guests of our members. You know, people. As for his
conservative ideas about gender, a conversation with him when he's not in
rant-mode really might help.
-----------------
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On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 5:52 PM, Sam Tepper <sam.tepper(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Regarding our budget, I think that members in the past
were expected to
pay more, and if asked, many would be willing to pay more if it were for a
good investment. Having a better deal on more space does seem to make
sense to me, if we can be sure it meets all our needs.
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 5:26 PM, Andrew <andrew(a)roshambomedia.com> wrote:
Aestetix:
There have been other issues. I am wary of listing them out, but like I
said they all surround having no clear boundaries and expectations and his
communication style of just saying whats on his mind, maybe throwing in a
threat, and then leaving.
I think though in general we have been thinking about looking for a new
(bigger) space for awhile. No time like the present to start shopping
around. If we find something that fits in the budget and is close to bart
why not?
--Andrew
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So, a move is a pretty big step. Have there been any other issues with
the landlord? I do agree that gender sensitivity is important, and yet
if there aren't any other complaints, I wonder if it's something we
could work out with him.
On 4/23/13 5:17 PM, William Budington wrote:
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We should bring this up with The Public School as
well, and see if
they might be willing to move with us. I'm sure the situation with
George is troublesome for them, too.
Bill
On 04/23/2013 05:01 PM, Jenny Ryan wrote:
> This looks like an amazing opportunity. Nice catch, Ray!
>
> I just sent them an email on behalf of sudo room, asking if we
> could set up a time to tour the space, meet the landlord, and
> discuss compatibility.
>
> We're currently paying $2/sqft, so this could be ideal. Marc has
> also been looking into potential spaces that are zoned for bio
> research.
>
> Jenny http://jennyryan.net http://thepyre.org
> http://thevirtualcampfire.org http://technomadic.tumblr.com
>
> `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~` "Technology is the campfire
> around which we tell our stories." -Laurie Anderson
>
> "Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of
> defining it." -Hannah Arendt
>
> "To define is to kill. To suggest is to create." -Stéphane
> Mallarmé ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 4:37 PM, Andrew
> <andrew(a)roshambomedia.com> wrote:
>
>> WANT! Ray, can you email them?
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Ray Lai
>> <raymond.wm.lai(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Disable our leaving the space, George!
>>>
>>> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/off/3734928687.html
>>>
>>> Franklin at 19th!
>>>
>>> $1500 for 1100 square feet. Also in the classy building is a
>>> whole floor 4200 square feet at .95/sq ft. Perhaps we can
>>> inquire about part of the larger floor or arrange to share it
>>> with Sudoers who need office space (RoShamBo, Atomic, et
>>> al).
>>>
>>> Sudo room is its esteemed, talented, brilliant and diverse
>>> members; not the space we chose to rent.
>>>
>>> Land lords are reptiles.
>>>
>>> Hack the marketplace!
>>>
>>> Raymond Lai Ice Cream Man Atomic Ice Cream
>>> Facebook.com/MotoAtomico
>>>
>>> On Apr 23, 2013, at 11:22 AM, Andrew
>>> <andrew(a)roshambomedia.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> It's very difficult to have a landlord with no clear
>>> boundaries. I get the feeling we are not the kind of tenants
>>> he wants to be working with, or is capable of working with. I
>>> have my own share of George stories.
>>>
>>> If we want to stay in the space, I would suggest that we be
>>> proactive in getting him to modify the lease so that we can
>>> all be on the same page with expectations. I think it's also
>>> fair to say that we've pushed pretty hard on him as well with
>>> what his expectation may have been for us, for example having
>>> large events in the common area is no in the lease as far as
>>> I know, but he has allowed it to happen, but because we don't
>>> have an actual agreement hes coming back with arbitrary
>>> enforcement of arbitrary rules.
>>>
>>> so we either:
>>>
>>> 1. move
>>>
>>> or
>>>
>>> 2. make sure that our expectations from and for the landlord
>>> are in writing
>>>
>>> or
>>>
>>> 3. Continue to take his arbitrary rants at random members of
>>> sudo room, and just placate (or ignore) him as much as
>>> possible (what we are already doing).
>>>
>>> --Andrew
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 9:20 AM, Gregg Horton
>>> <greggahorton(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
>>>
>>>> Then how is SR going to make a safe non-abusive space with
>>>> this guy as landlord?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 9:19 AM, Yardena Cohen
>>>> <yardenack(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 5:16 AM, Romy Ilano
>>>>> <romy(a)snowyla.com> wrote:
>>>>>> - Could we have a rule of SudoRoom members not
>>>>>> interacting with him?
>>>>>
>>>>> Who is this rule for? Do you appreciate the actual
>>>>> problem? He literally has a habit of going up to people
>>>>> using the bathroom and yelling at them through the door.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't want SR to move either.
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> sudo-discuss mailing list
>>>>> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org
>>>>> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> http://roshambomedia.com
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________ sudo-discuss
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>>> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss
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>>>
>>
>>
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>> http://roshambomedia.com
>>
>>
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New subject: "I will make them disabled"
These are all really valuable points.
However, I think it is important to explore opportunities when they arise,
and would like to suggest some folks check the space out ASAP and give the
rest of us a report-back.
The first available slot is tomorrow between 3-4pm. I will unfortunately be
working at that time, but whoever is available and interested please email
me tonight/tomorrow morning and I will send along the cell # to call.
They are also available to show the space Sunday between 10-11am, and
Monday-Friday afternoons and some evenings. I am down for a Thursday
afternoon tour, and if I don't get any replies back for tomorrow, I'll try
to schedule a Thursday tour between 3-4pm.
Re: issues with the landlord: Matt, Jordan, Andrew and myself (as far as
I'm aware, but I'm sure there are others) have buffered the community from
most of George's incorrigible behavior (I've been yelled at for things
sudoers have not even been around to do more times than I can count) -
though, granted, we have also put him through what I'm sure is unexpected
turbulence - but it should also be noted for the record that his rapport
with the EAST BAY *MEDITATION* CENTER was horrible enough to warrant them
moving out on bad terms.
Andrew's suggestion re: a revision of the contract is a good one, but I
have the feeling it wouldn't do much to change deeply-embedded behavior
patterns. We are growing too large for the space, regardless, and I also
think it could be a great opportunity for a serious crowdfunding campaign.
In love and solidarity,
Jenny
Jenny
http://jennyryan.net
http://thepyre.org
http://thevirtualcampfire.org
http://technomadic.tumblr.com
`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
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-Laurie Anderson
"Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it."
-Hannah Arendt
"To define is to kill. To suggest is to create."
-Stéphane Mallarmé
~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 6:29 PM, Tommy York <tommy.york(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I completely understand why members in this thread
want to move into a new
space, both for the comments from the landlord and for other reasons as
well (moar space!), but I'd definitely like to advocate that we proceed
with due diligence. Matt mentioned trying to start a process where we
continually understand the real estate market and what our options are...
With that in mind, maybe we can figure out a process where:
- we try to evaluate as many different spaces as possible, based on
criteria determined by consensus, and in those criteria...
- determine what's financially feasible, at what time period, with what
funding, etc. Rusty recently sent out that survey recently about funding,
and the few responses I read weren't at significantly higher price points,
though our questions centered around reserves.
I suppose that I see the comments from the landlord as a potential
additional reason to re-evaluate the space, but not one minimally
sufficient to immediately relocate.
As Bill mentioned, it'd be great to form some kind of exploratory
committee with the Public Schools. There's a lot of available commercial
space out there, and it'd be great to try and evaluate as much as we can.
If anything, this thread demonstrates that we have a lot of leverage in
the management of the space. We could probably leave pretty easily, and
it's likely that group consensus would be okay with that. At the very, very
least, we need to ask that he respectfully talk to our members. Or, for
that matter, guests of our members. You know, people. As for his
conservative ideas about gender, a conversation with him when he's not in
rant-mode really might help.
-----------------
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http://www.linkedin.com/in/tommyyork
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 5:52 PM, Sam Tepper <sam.tepper(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Regarding our budget, I think that members in the
past were expected to
pay more, and if asked, many would be willing to pay more if it were for a
good investment. Having a better deal on more space does seem to make
sense to me, if we can be sure it meets all our needs.
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There have been other issues. I am wary of listing them out, but like I
said they all surround having no clear boundaries and expectations and his
communication style of just saying whats on his mind, maybe throwing in a
threat, and then leaving.
I think though in general we have been thinking about looking for a new
(bigger) space for awhile. No time like the present to start shopping
around. If we find something that fits in the budget and is close to bart
why not?
--Andrew
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So, a move is a pretty big step. Have there been any other issues with
the landlord? I do agree that gender sensitivity is important, and yet
if there aren't any other complaints, I wonder if it's something we
could work out with him.
On 4/23/13 5:17 PM, William Budington wrote:
> We should bring this up with The Public School as well, and see if
> they might be willing to move with us. I'm sure the situation with
> George is troublesome for them, too.
>
> Bill
>
> On 04/23/2013 05:01 PM, Jenny Ryan wrote:
>> This looks like an amazing opportunity. Nice catch, Ray!
>>
>> I just sent them an email on behalf of sudo room, asking if we
>> could set up a time to tour the space, meet the landlord, and
>> discuss compatibility.
>>
>> We're currently paying $2/sqft, so this could be ideal. Marc has
>> also been looking into potential spaces that are zoned for bio
>> research.
>>
>> Jenny http://jennyryan.net http://thepyre.org
>> http://thevirtualcampfire.org http://technomadic.tumblr.com
>>
>> `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~` "Technology is the campfire
>> around which we tell our stories." -Laurie Anderson
>>
>> "Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of
>> defining it." -Hannah Arendt
>>
>> "To define is to kill. To suggest is to create." -Stéphane
>> Mallarmé ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 4:37 PM, Andrew
>> <andrew(a)roshambomedia.com> wrote:
>>
>>> WANT! Ray, can you email them?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Ray Lai
>>> <raymond.wm.lai(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Disable our leaving the space, George!
>>>>
>>>> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/off/3734928687.html
>>>>
>>>> Franklin at 19th!
>>>>
>>>> $1500 for 1100 square feet. Also in the classy building is a
>>>> whole floor 4200 square feet at .95/sq ft. Perhaps we can
>>>> inquire about part of the larger floor or arrange to share it
>>>> with Sudoers who need office space (RoShamBo, Atomic, et
>>>> al).
>>>>
>>>> Sudo room is its esteemed, talented, brilliant and diverse
>>>> members; not the space we chose to rent.
>>>>
>>>> Land lords are reptiles.
>>>>
>>>> Hack the marketplace!
>>>>
>>>> Raymond Lai Ice Cream Man Atomic Ice Cream
>>>> Facebook.com/MotoAtomico
>>>>
>>>> On Apr 23, 2013, at 11:22 AM, Andrew
>>>> <andrew(a)roshambomedia.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> It's very difficult to have a landlord with no clear
>>>> boundaries. I get the feeling we are not the kind of tenants
>>>> he wants to be working with, or is capable of working with. I
>>>> have my own share of George stories.
>>>>
>>>> If we want to stay in the space, I would suggest that we be
>>>> proactive in getting him to modify the lease so that we can
>>>> all be on the same page with expectations. I think it's also
>>>> fair to say that we've pushed pretty hard on him as well with
>>>> what his expectation may have been for us, for example having
>>>> large events in the common area is no in the lease as far as
>>>> I know, but he has allowed it to happen, but because we don't
>>>> have an actual agreement hes coming back with arbitrary
>>>> enforcement of arbitrary rules.
>>>>
>>>> so we either:
>>>>
>>>> 1. move
>>>>
>>>> or
>>>>
>>>> 2. make sure that our expectations from and for the landlord
>>>> are in writing
>>>>
>>>> or
>>>>
>>>> 3. Continue to take his arbitrary rants at random members of
>>>> sudo room, and just placate (or ignore) him as much as
>>>> possible (what we are already doing).
>>>>
>>>> --Andrew
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 9:20 AM, Gregg Horton
>>>> <greggahorton(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Then how is SR going to make a safe non-abusive space with
>>>>> this guy as landlord?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 9:19 AM, Yardena Cohen
>>>>> <yardenack(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 5:16 AM, Romy Ilano
>>>>>> <romy(a)snowyla.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> - Could we have a rule of SudoRoom members not
>>>>>>> interacting with him?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Who is this rule for? Do you appreciate the actual
>>>>>> problem? He literally has a habit of going up to people
>>>>>> using the bathroom and yelling at them through the door.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't want SR to move either.
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>>>>>
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8:55 a.m.
New subject: "I will make them disabled"
Wow, this is a lively thread. :)
Due diligence? Yes!
The search for new space? Yes! (Jenny, sign me up for Thurs if a scouting party is
assembling)
A search for a new space helps empower us with choice. It might help George consider his
words and approach more carefully, knowing that we are considering leaving (or he might
just be an unapologetic rager in which case no amount of discussion or amendments to the
rental agreement would help).
I'm also hoping landlords talk (maybe not to George, tho ;) and I plan on mentioning
our current address and landlord to any prospective landlord with the intention of the
news getting back to George. In this way George may apply whatever modicum of self-control
and civility to his interactions with us, his valued tenants.
I'm going to ask George, if he would be willing to sign a letter of recommendation
endorsing us as tenants that pay rent on time. ;)
Onward,
Raymond Lai
Ice Cream Man
Atomic Ice Cream
Facebook.com/MotoAtomico
On Apr 23, 2013, at 11:37 PM, Jenny Ryan <tunabananas(a)gmail.com> wrote:
These are all really valuable points.
However, I think it is important to explore opportunities when they arise, and would like
to suggest some folks check the space out ASAP and give the rest of us a report-back.
The first available slot is tomorrow between 3-4pm. I will unfortunately be working at
that time, but whoever is available and interested please email me tonight/tomorrow
morning and I will send along the cell # to call.
They are also available to show the space Sunday between 10-11am, and Monday-Friday
afternoons and some evenings. I am down for a Thursday afternoon tour, and if I don't
get any replies back for tomorrow, I'll try to schedule a Thursday tour between
3-4pm.
Re: issues with the landlord: Matt, Jordan, Andrew and myself (as far as I'm aware,
but I'm sure there are others) have buffered the community from most of George's
incorrigible behavior (I've been yelled at for things sudoers have not even been
around to do more times than I can count) - though, granted, we have also put him through
what I'm sure is unexpected turbulence - but it should also be noted for the record
that his rapport with the EAST BAY *MEDITATION* CENTER was horrible enough to warrant them
moving out on bad terms.
Andrew's suggestion re: a revision of the contract is a good one, but I have the
feeling it wouldn't do much to change deeply-embedded behavior patterns. We are
growing too large for the space, regardless, and I also think it could be a great
opportunity for a serious crowdfunding campaign.
In love and solidarity,
Jenny
Jenny
http://jennyryan.net
http://thepyre.org
http://thevirtualcampfire.org
http://technomadic.tumblr.com
`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
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-Laurie Anderson
"Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it."
-Hannah Arendt
"To define is to kill. To suggest is to create."
-Stéphane Mallarmé
~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 6:29 PM, Tommy York <tommy.york(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I completely understand why members in this thread want to move into a new space, both
for the comments from the landlord and for other reasons as well (moar space!), but
I'd definitely like to advocate that we proceed with due diligence. Matt mentioned
trying to start a process where we continually understand the real estate market and what
our options are... With that in mind, maybe we can figure out a process where:
- we try to evaluate as many different spaces as possible, based on criteria determined
by consensus, and in those criteria...
- determine what's financially feasible, at what time period, with what funding, etc.
Rusty recently sent out that survey recently about funding, and the few responses I read
weren't at significantly higher price points, though our questions centered around
reserves.
I suppose that I see the comments from the landlord as a potential additional reason to
re-evaluate the space, but not one minimally sufficient to immediately relocate.
As Bill mentioned, it'd be great to form some kind of exploratory committee with the
Public Schools. There's a lot of available commercial space out there, and it'd be
great to try and evaluate as much as we can.
If anything, this thread demonstrates that we have a lot of leverage in the management of
the space. We could probably leave pretty easily, and it's likely that group consensus
would be okay with that. At the very, very least, we need to ask that he respectfully talk
to our members. Or, for that matter, guests of our members. You know, people. As for his
conservative ideas about gender, a conversation with him when he's not in rant-mode
really might help.
-----------------
Thomas Riley York (杨德民) 510.926.0510
http://www.linkedin.com/in/tommyyork
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 5:52 PM, Sam Tepper <sam.tepper(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Regarding our budget, I think that members in the past were expected to pay more, and if
asked, many would be willing to pay more if it were for a good investment. Having a
better deal on more space does seem to make sense to me, if we can be sure it meets all
our needs.
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 5:26 PM, Andrew <andrew(a)roshambomedia.com> wrote:
Aestetix:
There have been other issues. I am wary of listing them out, but like I said they all
surround having no clear boundaries and expectations and his communication style of just
saying whats on his mind, maybe throwing in a threat, and then leaving.
I think though in general we have been thinking about looking for a new (bigger) space
for awhile. No time like the present to start shopping around. If we find something that
fits in the budget and is close to bart why not?
--Andrew
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So, a move is a pretty big step. Have there been any other issues with
the landlord? I do agree that gender sensitivity is important, and yet
if there aren't any other complaints, I wonder if it's something we
could work out with him.
On 4/23/13 5:17 PM, William Budington wrote:
We should bring this up with The Public School as
well, and see if
they might be willing to move with us. I'm sure the situation with
George is troublesome for them, too.
Bill
On 04/23/2013 05:01 PM, Jenny Ryan wrote:
This looks like an amazing opportunity. Nice
catch, Ray!
I just sent them an email on behalf of sudo room, asking if we
could set up a time to tour the space, meet the landlord, and
discuss compatibility.
We're currently paying $2/sqft, so this could be ideal. Marc has
also been looking into potential spaces that are zoned for bio
research.
Jenny http://jennyryan.net http://thepyre.org
http://thevirtualcampfire.org http://technomadic.tumblr.com
`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~` "Technology is the campfire
around which we tell our stories." -Laurie Anderson
"Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of
defining it." -Hannah Arendt
"To define is to kill. To suggest is to create." -Stéphane
Mallarmé ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 4:37 PM, Andrew
<andrew(a)roshambomedia.com> wrote:
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On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Ray Lai
<raymond.wm.lai(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Disable our leaving the space, George!
>
> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/off/3734928687.html
>
> Franklin at 19th!
>
> $1500 for 1100 square feet. Also in the classy building is a
> whole floor 4200 square feet at .95/sq ft. Perhaps we can
> inquire about part of the larger floor or arrange to share it
> with Sudoers who need office space (RoShamBo, Atomic, et
> al).
>
> Sudo room is its esteemed, talented, brilliant and diverse
> members; not the space we chose to rent.
>
> Land lords are reptiles.
>
> Hack the marketplace!
>
> Raymond Lai Ice Cream Man Atomic Ice Cream
> Facebook.com/MotoAtomico
>
> On Apr 23, 2013, at 11:22 AM, Andrew
> <andrew(a)roshambomedia.com> wrote:
>
> It's very difficult to have a landlord with no clear
> boundaries. I get the feeling we are not the kind of tenants
> he wants to be working with, or is capable of working with. I
> have my own share of George stories.
>
> If we want to stay in the space, I would suggest that we be
> proactive in getting him to modify the lease so that we can
> all be on the same page with expectations. I think it's also
> fair to say that we've pushed pretty hard on him as well with
> what his expectation may have been for us, for example having
> large events in the common area is no in the lease as far as
> I know, but he has allowed it to happen, but because we don't
> have an actual agreement hes coming back with arbitrary
> enforcement of arbitrary rules.
>
> so we either:
>
> 1. move
>
> or
>
> 2. make sure that our expectations from and for the landlord
> are in writing
>
> or
>
> 3. Continue to take his arbitrary rants at random members of
> sudo room, and just placate (or ignore) him as much as
> possible (what we are already doing).
>
> --Andrew
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 9:20 AM, Gregg Horton
> <greggahorton(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
>
>> Then how is SR going to make a safe non-abusive space with
>> this guy as landlord?
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 9:19 AM, Yardena Cohen
>> <yardenack(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 5:16 AM, Romy Ilano
>>> <romy(a)snowyla.com> wrote:
>>>> - Could we have a rule of SudoRoom members not
>>>> interacting with him?
>>>
>>> Who is this rule for? Do you appreciate the actual
>>> problem? He literally has a habit of going up to people
>>> using the bathroom and yelling at them through the door.
>>>
>>> I don't want SR to move either.
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> sudo-discuss mailing list
>>> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org
>>> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss
>>>
>>
>>
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>>
>
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23 Apr
5:22 p.m.
New subject: "I will make them disabled"
I don't think the zoning on Franklin would work out for bio, but I should
really let Marc answer - he's got all the details.
Regardless - the East Bay DIYbio group is looking for a home as well, so we
may be able to join forces with sudoroom in househunting. We'll likely have
more restrictive zoning requirements than sudoroom though...
Patrik
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 5:01 PM, Jenny Ryan <tunabananas(a)gmail.com> wrote:
This looks like an amazing opportunity. Nice catch,
Ray!
I just sent them an email on behalf of sudo room, asking if we could set
up a time to tour the space, meet the landlord, and discuss compatibility.
We're currently paying $2/sqft, so this could be ideal. Marc has also been
looking into potential spaces that are zoned for bio research.
Jenny
http://jennyryan.net
http://thepyre.org
http://thevirtualcampfire.org
http://technomadic.tumblr.com
`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
"Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories."
-Laurie Anderson
"Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it."
-Hannah Arendt
"To define is to kill. To suggest is to create."
-Stéphane Mallarmé
~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 4:37 PM, Andrew <andrew(a)roshambomedia.com> wrote:
WANT! Ray, can you email them?
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Ray Lai <raymond.wm.lai(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
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Disable our leaving the space, George!
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/off/3734928687.html
Franklin at 19th!
$1500 for 1100 square feet. Also in the classy building is a whole floor
4200 square feet at .95/sq ft. Perhaps we can inquire about part of the
larger floor or arrange to share it with Sudoers who need office space
(RoShamBo, Atomic, et al).
Sudo room is its esteemed, talented, brilliant and diverse members; not
the space we chose to rent.
Land lords are reptiles.
Hack the marketplace!
Raymond Lai
Ice Cream Man
Atomic Ice Cream
Facebook.com/MotoAtomico
On Apr 23, 2013, at 11:22 AM, Andrew <andrew(a)roshambomedia.com> wrote:
It's very difficult to have a landlord with no clear boundaries. I get
the feeling we are not the kind of tenants he wants to be working with, or
is capable of working with. I have my own share of George stories.
If we want to stay in the space, I would suggest that we be proactive in
getting him to modify the lease so that we can all be on the same page
with expectations. I think it's also fair to say that we've pushed pretty
hard on him as well with what his expectation may have been for us, for
example having large events in the common area is no in the lease as far as
I know, but he has allowed it to happen, but because we don't have an
actual agreement hes coming back
with arbitrary enforcement of arbitrary rules.
so we either:
1. move
or
2. make sure that our expectations from and for the landlord are in
writing
or
3. Continue to take his arbitrary rants at random members of sudo room,
and just placate (or ignore) him as much as possible (what we are already
doing).
--Andrew
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 9:20 AM, Gregg Horton <greggahorton(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
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Then how is SR going to make a safe non-abusive
space with this guy as
landlord?
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 9:19 AM, Yardena Cohen <yardenack(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 5:16 AM, Romy Ilano <romy(a)snowyla.com> wrote:
> > - Could we have a rule of SudoRoom members not interacting with him?
>
> Who is this rule for? Do you appreciate the actual problem? He
> literally has a habit of going up to people using the bathroom and
> yelling at them through the door.
>
> I don't want SR to move either.
> _______________________________________________
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I think we are focusing on the 2nd foor in the ad:
#2 third floor 1100 ft includes all utilities etc $1500
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Patrik D'haeseleer <patrikd(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
I don't think the zoning on Franklin would work
out for bio, but I should
really let Marc answer - he's got all the details.
Regardless - the East Bay DIYbio group is looking for a home as well, so
we may be able to join forces with sudoroom in househunting. We'll likely
have more restrictive zoning requirements than sudoroom though...
Patrik
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 5:01 PM, Jenny Ryan <tunabananas(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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This looks like an amazing opportunity. Nice
catch, Ray!
I just sent them an email on behalf of sudo room, asking if we could set
up a time to tour the space, meet the landlord, and discuss compatibility.
We're currently paying $2/sqft, so this could be ideal. Marc has also
been looking into potential spaces that are zoned for bio research.
Jenny
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On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 4:37 PM, Andrew <andrew(a)roshambomedia.com> wrote:
WANT! Ray, can you email them?
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Ray Lai <raymond.wm.lai(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
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Disable our leaving the space, George!
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/off/3734928687.html
Franklin at 19th!
$1500 for 1100 square feet. Also in the classy building is a whole
floor 4200 square feet at .95/sq ft. Perhaps we can inquire about part of
the larger floor or arrange to share it with Sudoers who need office space
(RoShamBo, Atomic, et al).
Sudo room is its esteemed, talented, brilliant and diverse members; not
the space we chose to rent.
Land lords are reptiles.
Hack the marketplace!
Raymond Lai
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Facebook.com/MotoAtomico
On Apr 23, 2013, at 11:22 AM, Andrew <andrew(a)roshambomedia.com> wrote:
It's very difficult to have a landlord with no clear boundaries. I get
the feeling we are not the kind of tenants he wants to be working with, or
is capable of working with. I have my own share of George stories.
If we want to stay in the space, I would suggest that we be proactive
in getting him to modify the lease so that we can all be on the same page
with expectations. I think it's also fair to say that we've pushed pretty
hard on him as well with what his expectation may have been for us, for
example having large events in the common area is no in the lease as far as
I know, but he has allowed it to happen, but because we don't have an
actual agreement hes coming back
with arbitrary enforcement of arbitrary rules.
so we either:
1. move
or
2. make sure that our expectations from and for the landlord are in
writing
or
3. Continue to take his arbitrary rants at random members of sudo room,
and just placate (or ignore) him as much as possible (what we are already
doing).
--Andrew
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 9:20 AM, Gregg Horton <greggahorton(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
> Then how is SR going to make a safe non-abusive space with this guy as
> landlord?
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 9:19 AM, Yardena Cohen <yardenack(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 5:16 AM, Romy Ilano <romy(a)snowyla.com> wrote:
>> > - Could we have a rule of SudoRoom members not interacting with him?
>>
>> Who is this rule for? Do you appreciate the actual problem? He
>> literally has a habit of going up to people using the bathroom and
>> yelling at them through the door.
>>
>> I don't want SR to move either.
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24 Apr
7:49 p.m.
New subject: "I will make them disabled"
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Patrik D'haeseleer <patrikd(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
I don't think the zoning on Franklin would work
out for bio, but I should
really let Marc answer - he's got all the details.
Unfortunately this space wouldn't work for the bio space due to zoning.
I'll send out some info on what the bio space needs are, and while I would
love to have the two spaces be in the same building, I don't think the bio
space's needs should prevent sudo room from moving to an awesomer space.
25 Apr
25 Apr
5:52 a.m.
New subject: "I will make them disabled"
I love the idea of a list of requirements.
For me, I like the current SudoRoom spaces because of the big common area
with a library like space. any future space for work or play for me would
have a lovely common room as well.
If any future area has a safe common area that's a layer removed from the
street that's pretty cool.
I think it helps a lot with welcoming newcomers, who might feel
claustrophic jumping into the SudoRoom right away.
the common area also does a lot to dissolve potential conflicts, as it
provides many peaceful spaces away from the sudoRoom itself. noisebridge
has a lot of side rooms that serve the same purpose.
I like that the common area is not at street level and that people have to
make a commitment to walk up the stairs... but then the common room is like
a halfway point, a nice limbo where people can dip in and out of the
sudoroom before making up their minds.
I used to volunteer at Rock Paper Scissors Collective and we'd get all
sorts of interesting characters, but they have a storefront, so it's a
different vibe.
i like the random interactions we have with the Public School. i feel that
they are doing the same thing as us in a twisted kind of way.
On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 7:49 PM, Marc Juul <marcjc(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Patrik
D'haeseleer <patrikd(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
I don't think the zoning on Franklin would
work out for bio, but I should
really let Marc answer - he's got all the details.
Unfortunately this space wouldn't work for the bio space due to zoning.
I'll send out some info on what the bio space needs are, and while I would
love to have the two spaces be in the same building, I don't think the bio
space's needs should prevent sudo room from moving to an awesomer space.
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New subject: "I will make them disabled"
I can go over at 3pm today as well
On Apr 25, 2013 5:52 AM, "Romy Ilano" <romy(a)snowyla.com> wrote:
I love the idea of a list of requirements.
For me, I like the current SudoRoom spaces because of the big common area
with a library like space. any future space for work or play for me would
have a lovely common room as well.
If any future area has a safe common area that's a layer removed from the
street that's pretty cool.
I think it helps a lot with welcoming newcomers, who might feel
claustrophic jumping into the SudoRoom right away.
the common area also does a lot to dissolve potential conflicts, as it
provides many peaceful spaces away from the sudoRoom itself. noisebridge
has a lot of side rooms that serve the same purpose.
I like that the common area is not at street level and that people have to
make a commitment to walk up the stairs... but then the common room is like
a halfway point, a nice limbo where people can dip in and out of the
sudoroom before making up their minds.
I used to volunteer at Rock Paper Scissors Collective and we'd get all
sorts of interesting characters, but they have a storefront, so it's a
different vibe.
i like the random interactions we have with the Public School. i feel that
they are doing the same thing as us in a twisted kind of way.
On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 7:49 PM, Marc Juul <marcjc(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Patrik
D'haeseleer <patrikd(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
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I don't think the zoning on Franklin would
work out for bio, but I
should really let Marc answer - he's got all the details.
Unfortunately this space wouldn't work for the bio space due to zoning.
I'll send out some info on what the bio space needs are, and while I
would love to have the two spaces be in the same building, I don't think
the bio space's needs should prevent sudo room from moving to an awesomer
space.
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10:21 a.m.
New subject: "I will make them disabled"
I just had an idea...AMT is looking for a new space too, how about we take
the 4200 sq ft floor and you guys take the 1100 sq ft floor? Would that be
awesome or what? Oakland Hacker Central! Right now AMT is getting about
$3200-3500/mo in member dues, so we'd need to stretch a little bit, but I
think with some fundraising we might be able to pull it off.
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 9:41 AM, Andrew <andrew(a)roshambomedia.com> wrote:
I can go over at 3pm today as well
On Apr 25, 2013 5:52 AM, "Romy Ilano" <romy(a)snowyla.com> wrote:
I love the idea of a list of requirements.
For me, I like the current SudoRoom spaces because of the big common area
with a library like space. any future space for work or play for me would
have a lovely common room as well.
If any future area has a safe common area that's a layer removed from
the street that's pretty cool.
I think it helps a lot with welcoming newcomers, who might feel
claustrophic jumping into the SudoRoom right away.
the common area also does a lot to dissolve potential conflicts, as it
provides many peaceful spaces away from the sudoRoom itself. noisebridge
has a lot of side rooms that serve the same purpose.
I like that the common area is not at street level and that people have
to make a commitment to walk up the stairs... but then the common room is
like a halfway point, a nice limbo where people can dip in and out of the
sudoroom before making up their minds.
I used to volunteer at Rock Paper Scissors Collective and we'd get all
sorts of interesting characters, but they have a storefront, so it's a
different vibe.
i like the random interactions we have with the Public School. i feel
that they are doing the same thing as us in a twisted kind of way.
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I don't think the zoning on Franklin would
work out for bio, but I
should really let Marc answer - he's got all the details.
Unfortunately this space wouldn't work for the bio space due to zoning.
I'll send out some info on what the bio space needs are, and while I
would love to have the two spaces be in the same building, I don't think
the bio space's needs should prevent sudo room from moving to an awesomer
space.
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12:27 p.m.
New subject: "I will make them disabled"
Big +1 to David! hopefully some of us are going over there to check it out
today at 3pm. I'll take pictures / if you can join us that would be great
or maybe we can schedule another time for a joint Sudo Room / AMT viewing.
I wanted to also throw in that Roshambo Media is also looking for a new
office space due to some landlord issues (ie. raising the rent arbitrarily)
and we'd be sad without sudo room next door. We are looking for a space
where we can close the door and make noise for about $300/month. if there
is a space on either floor like that we'd take it in a heart beat.
--Andrew
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 10:21 AM, David Rorex <drorex(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I just had an idea...AMT is looking for a new space
too, how about we take
the 4200 sq ft floor and you guys take the 1100 sq ft floor? Would that be
awesome or what? Oakland Hacker Central! Right now AMT is getting about
$3200-3500/mo in member dues, so we'd need to stretch a little bit, but I
think with some fundraising we might be able to pull it off.
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 9:41 AM, Andrew <andrew(a)roshambomedia.com> wrote:
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I can go over at 3pm today as well
On Apr 25, 2013 5:52 AM, "Romy Ilano" <romy(a)snowyla.com> wrote:
I love the idea of a list of requirements.
For me, I like the current SudoRoom spaces because of the big common
area with a library like space. any future space for work or play for me
would have a lovely common room as well.
If any future area has a safe common area that's a layer removed from
the street that's pretty cool.
I think it helps a lot with welcoming newcomers, who might feel
claustrophic jumping into the SudoRoom right away.
the common area also does a lot to dissolve potential conflicts, as it
provides many peaceful spaces away from the sudoRoom itself. noisebridge
has a lot of side rooms that serve the same purpose.
I like that the common area is not at street level and that people have
to make a commitment to walk up the stairs... but then the common room is
like a halfway point, a nice limbo where people can dip in and out of the
sudoroom before making up their minds.
I used to volunteer at Rock Paper Scissors Collective and we'd get all
sorts of interesting characters, but they have a storefront, so it's a
different vibe.
i like the random interactions we have with the Public School. i feel
that they are doing the same thing as us in a twisted kind of way.
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On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Patrik
D'haeseleer <patrikd(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
> I don't think the zoning on Franklin would work out for bio, but I
> should really let Marc answer - he's got all the details.
>
Unfortunately this space wouldn't work for the bio space due to zoning.
I'll send out some info on what the bio space needs are, and while I
would love to have the two spaces be in the same building, I don't think
the bio space's needs should prevent sudo room from moving to an awesomer
space.
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12:40 p.m.
New subject: "I will make them disabled"
I like how this divergence is shedding light on so much potential.;
I will likely be in on the visit at 3pm. Looking forward.
Make a great day,
Morten H. D. Fuglsang
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On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Andrew <andrew(a)roshambomedia.com> wrote:
Big +1 to David! hopefully some of us are going over
there to check it out
today at 3pm. I'll take pictures / if you can join us that would be great
or maybe we can schedule another time for a joint Sudo Room / AMT viewing.
I wanted to also throw in that Roshambo Media is also looking for a new
office space due to some landlord issues (ie. raising the rent arbitrarily)
and we'd be sad without sudo room next door. We are looking for a space
where we can close the door and make noise for about $300/month. if there
is a space on either floor like that we'd take it in a heart beat.
--Andrew
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 10:21 AM, David Rorex <drorex(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I just had an idea...AMT is looking for a new
space too, how about we
take the 4200 sq ft floor and you guys take the 1100 sq ft floor? Would
that be awesome or what? Oakland Hacker Central! Right now AMT is getting
about $3200-3500/mo in member dues, so we'd need to stretch a little bit,
but I think with some fundraising we might be able to pull it off.
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 9:41 AM, Andrew <andrew(a)roshambomedia.com> wrote:
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I can go over at 3pm today as well
On Apr 25, 2013 5:52 AM, "Romy Ilano" <romy(a)snowyla.com> wrote:
I love the idea of a list of requirements.
For me, I like the current SudoRoom spaces because of the big common
area with a library like space. any future space for work or play for me
would have a lovely common room as well.
If any future area has a safe common area that's a layer removed from
the street that's pretty cool.
I think it helps a lot with welcoming newcomers, who might feel
claustrophic jumping into the SudoRoom right away.
the common area also does a lot to dissolve potential conflicts, as it
provides many peaceful spaces away from the sudoRoom itself. noisebridge
has a lot of side rooms that serve the same purpose.
I like that the common area is not at street level and that people have
to make a commitment to walk up the stairs... but then the common room is
like a halfway point, a nice limbo where people can dip in and out of the
sudoroom before making up their minds.
I used to volunteer at Rock Paper Scissors Collective and we'd get all
sorts of interesting characters, but they have a storefront, so it's a
different vibe.
i like the random interactions we have with the Public School. i feel
that they are doing the same thing as us in a twisted kind of way.
On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 7:49 PM, Marc Juul <marcjc(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Patrik D'haeseleer <patrikd(a)gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>> I don't think the zoning on Franklin would work out for bio, but I
>> should really let Marc answer - he's got all the details.
>>
>
> Unfortunately this space wouldn't work for the bio space due to zoning.
>
> I'll send out some info on what the bio space needs are, and while I
> would love to have the two spaces be in the same building, I don't think
> the bio space's needs should prevent sudo room from moving to an awesomer
> space.
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss
>
>
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1:40 p.m.
New subject: "I will make them disabled"
Sweet. I'm still waiting on Jenny for the number to call.
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Morten H. D. Fuglsang
<vallebo(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
I like how this divergence is shedding light on so
much potential.;
I will likely be in on the visit at 3pm. Looking forward.
Make a great day,
Morten H. D. Fuglsang
US: +1 415 799 6931 // skype: FlyvendeHest
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Andrew <andrew(a)roshambomedia.com> wrote:
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Big +1 to David! hopefully some of us are going
over there to check it
out today at 3pm. I'll take pictures / if you can join us that would be
great or maybe we can schedule another time for a joint Sudo Room / AMT
viewing.
I wanted to also throw in that Roshambo Media is also looking for a new
office space due to some landlord issues (ie. raising the rent arbitrarily)
and we'd be sad without sudo room next door. We are looking for a space
where we can close the door and make noise for about $300/month. if there
is a space on either floor like that we'd take it in a heart beat.
--Andrew
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 10:21 AM, David Rorex <drorex(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I just had an idea...AMT is looking for a new
space too, how about we
take the 4200 sq ft floor and you guys take the 1100 sq ft floor? Would
that be awesome or what? Oakland Hacker Central! Right now AMT is getting
about $3200-3500/mo in member dues, so we'd need to stretch a little bit,
but I think with some fundraising we might be able to pull it off.
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 9:41 AM, Andrew <andrew(a)roshambomedia.com>wrote;wrote:
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I can go over at 3pm today as well
On Apr 25, 2013 5:52 AM, "Romy Ilano" <romy(a)snowyla.com> wrote:
> I love the idea of a list of requirements.
>
> For me, I like the current SudoRoom spaces because of the big common
> area with a library like space. any future space for work or play for me
> would have a lovely common room as well.
>
> If any future area has a safe common area that's a layer removed from
> the street that's pretty cool.
>
> I think it helps a lot with welcoming newcomers, who might feel
> claustrophic jumping into the SudoRoom right away.
>
> the common area also does a lot to dissolve potential conflicts, as it
> provides many peaceful spaces away from the sudoRoom itself. noisebridge
> has a lot of side rooms that serve the same purpose.
>
>
> I like that the common area is not at street level and that people
> have to make a commitment to walk up the stairs... but then the common room
> is like a halfway point, a nice limbo where people can dip in and out of
> the sudoroom before making up their minds.
>
> I used to volunteer at Rock Paper Scissors Collective and we'd get
> all sorts of interesting characters, but they have a storefront, so it's a
> different vibe.
>
>
> i like the random interactions we have with the Public School. i feel
> that they are doing the same thing as us in a twisted kind of way.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 7:49 PM, Marc Juul <marcjc(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Patrik D'haeseleer <
>> patrikd(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I don't think the zoning on Franklin would work out for bio, but I
>>> should really let Marc answer - he's got all the details.
>>>
>>
>> Unfortunately this space wouldn't work for the bio space due to
>> zoning.
>>
>> I'll send out some info on what the bio space needs are, and while I
>> would love to have the two spaces be in the same building, I don't think
>> the bio space's needs should prevent sudo room from moving to an awesomer
>> space.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> sudo-discuss mailing list
>> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org
>> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss
>>
>>
>
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1:41 p.m.
New subject: "I will make them disabled"
opps, scratch that.. see you at 3:30!
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 1:40 PM, Andrew <andrew(a)roshambomedia.com> wrote:
Sweet. I'm still waiting on Jenny for the number
to call.
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Morten H. D. Fuglsang <vallebo(a)gmail.com
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wrote:
I like how this divergence is shedding light on
so much potential.;
I will likely be in on the visit at 3pm. Looking forward.
Make a great day,
Morten H. D. Fuglsang
US: +1 415 799 6931 // skype: FlyvendeHest
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Andrew <andrew(a)roshambomedia.com>wrote;wrote:
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Big +1 to David! hopefully some of us are going
over there to check it
out today at 3pm. I'll take pictures / if you can join us that would be
great or maybe we can schedule another time for a joint Sudo Room / AMT
viewing.
I wanted to also throw in that Roshambo Media is also looking for a new
office space due to some landlord issues (ie. raising the rent arbitrarily)
and we'd be sad without sudo room next door. We are looking for a space
where we can close the door and make noise for about $300/month. if there
is a space on either floor like that we'd take it in a heart beat.
--Andrew
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 10:21 AM, David Rorex <drorex(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I just had an idea...AMT is looking for a new
space too, how about we
take the 4200 sq ft floor and you guys take the 1100 sq ft floor? Would
that be awesome or what? Oakland Hacker Central! Right now AMT is getting
about $3200-3500/mo in member dues, so we'd need to stretch a little bit,
but I think with some fundraising we might be able to pull it off.
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 9:41 AM, Andrew <andrew(a)roshambomedia.com>wrote;wrote:
> I can go over at 3pm today as well
> On Apr 25, 2013 5:52 AM, "Romy Ilano" <romy(a)snowyla.com> wrote:
>
>> I love the idea of a list of requirements.
>>
>> For me, I like the current SudoRoom spaces because of the big common
>> area with a library like space. any future space for work or play for me
>> would have a lovely common room as well.
>>
>> If any future area has a safe common area that's a layer removed
>> from the street that's pretty cool.
>>
>> I think it helps a lot with welcoming newcomers, who might feel
>> claustrophic jumping into the SudoRoom right away.
>>
>> the common area also does a lot to dissolve potential conflicts, as
>> it provides many peaceful spaces away from the sudoRoom itself. noisebridge
>> has a lot of side rooms that serve the same purpose.
>>
>>
>> I like that the common area is not at street level and that people
>> have to make a commitment to walk up the stairs... but then the common room
>> is like a halfway point, a nice limbo where people can dip in and out of
>> the sudoroom before making up their minds.
>>
>> I used to volunteer at Rock Paper Scissors Collective and we'd get
>> all sorts of interesting characters, but they have a storefront, so it's a
>> different vibe.
>>
>>
>> i like the random interactions we have with the Public School. i feel
>> that they are doing the same thing as us in a twisted kind of way.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 7:49 PM, Marc Juul <marcjc(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Patrik D'haeseleer <
>>> patrikd(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I don't think the zoning on Franklin would work out for bio, but I
>>>> should really let Marc answer - he's got all the details.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Unfortunately this space wouldn't work for the bio space due to
>>> zoning.
>>>
>>> I'll send out some info on what the bio space needs are, and while I
>>> would love to have the two spaces be in the same building, I don't think
>>> the bio space's needs should prevent sudo room from moving to an
awesomer
>>> space.
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5:22 p.m.
New subject: "I will make them disabled"
what's the square footage of our current room? seems like about 15x50? also access to
the common space and kitchenette has been very beneficial. i have always thought of the
next expansion occurring at a different address but we have to weigh everything carefully,
including sunk costs like putting together an access system and setting up physical
infrastructure in the space itself. Is there anyone that thinks signing up for $4,000/mo
space would be an option given our current financial situation? anyways, there are
definitely cheaper options out there but no option is perfect.
Apr 23, 2013 05:01:50 PM, tunabananas(a)gmail.com wrote:
This looks like an amazing opportunity. Nice catch, Ray!
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>On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 4:37 PM, Andrew
andrew(a)roshambomedia.com> wrote:
WANT! Ray, can you email them?
>On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Ray Lai
raymond.wm.lai(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>Sudo room is its esteemed, talented, brilliant and diverse members; not the space we
chose to rent.
>Land lords are reptiles.
It's very difficult to have a landlord with
no clear boundaries. I get the feeling we are not the kind of tenants he wants to be
working with, or is capable of working with. I have my own share of George stories.
>On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 9:20 AM, Gregg Horton greggahorton(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 9:19 AM, Yardena
Cohen yardenack(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 5:16 AM, Romy Ilano romy(a)snowyla.com> wrote:
> - Could we have a rule of SudoRoom members not interacting with him?
Who is this rule for? Do you appreciate the
actual problem? He
literally has a habit of going up to people
using the bathroom and
yelling at them through the door.
I don't want SR to move either.
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I just sent them an email on behalf of sudo room, asking if we could set up a time to tour
the space, meet the landlord, and discuss compatibility.
We're currently paying $2/sqft, so this could be
ideal. Marc has also been looking into potential spaces that are zoned for bio research.
Jenny
http://jennyryan.net
Disable our leaving the space, George!
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/off/3734928687.html
>Franklin at 19th!
>$1500 for 1100 square feet. Also in the classy building is a whole floor 4200 square
feet at .95/sq ft. Perhaps we can inquire about part of the larger floor or arrange to
share it with Sudoers who need office space (RoShamBo, Atomic, et al).
Hack the marketplace!
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>On Apr 23, 2013, at 11:22 AM, Andrew andrew(a)roshambomedia.com> wrote:
If we want to stay in the space, I would suggest that
we be proactive in getting him to modify the lease so that we can all be on the same page
with expectations. I think it's also fair to say that we've pushed pretty hard on
him as well with what his expectation may have been for us, for example having large
events in the common area is no in the lease as far as I know, but he has allowed it to
happen, but because we don't have an actual agreement hes coming back
with arbitrary enforcement of arbitrary rules.
so we either:
1. move
or
2. make sure that our expectations from and for the landlord are in writing
or
3. Continue to take his arbitrary rants at random members of sudo room, and just placate
(or ignore) him as much as possible (what we are already doing).
>--Andrew
Then how is SR going to make a safe non-abusive space
with this guy as landlord?
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12:34 p.m.
New subject: donated PCs - which ones are fastest?
Hi Folks,
We might have somebody coming by to showcase a kinect/arduino based project and from my
undestanding it runs on PCs "the faster the better"
Anyone know offhand which of the armada of donated boxes might be most powerful? Planning
to set one up tonight.
Also in general, we should do a survey of which computer parts esp monitors are
functional. Would be nice to have a row of desktops set up in the common area...I think
they have a bar-like configuration at the holdout with a few PCs.
Cheers,
Hol
1:47 p.m.
New subject: donated PCs - which ones are fastest?
hey hol, thanks for kicking off the dreaded repair discussion. would anyone
be interested in a "fix it day" today i learned sometime soon?
- marina
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 12:34 PM, Hol Gaskill <hol(a)gaskill.com> wrote:
Hi Folks,
We might have somebody coming by to showcase a kinect/arduino based
project and from my undestanding it runs on PCs "the faster the better"
Anyone know offhand which of the armada of donated boxes might be most
powerful? Planning to set one up tonight.
Also in general, we should do a survey of which computer parts esp
monitors are functional. Would be nice to have a row of desktops set up in
the common area...I think they have a bar-like configuration at the holdout
with a few PCs.
Cheers,
Hol
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New subject: donated PCs - which ones are fastest?
It'd be cool to have a Linux installfest / fixup day! Folks can bring
their own computers to install Linux on and we can provide the
installation media. Today I learned sounds like a good place for it.
Bill
On 04/23/2013 01:47 PM, Marina Kukso wrote:
hey hol, thanks for kicking off the dreaded repair
discussion. would anyone
be interested in a "fix it day" today i learned sometime soon?
- marina
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 12:34 PM, Hol Gaskill <hol(a)gaskill.com> wrote:
Hi Folks,
We might have somebody coming by to showcase a kinect/arduino based
project and from my undestanding it runs on PCs "the faster the better"
Anyone know offhand which of the armada of donated boxes might be most
powerful? Planning to set one up tonight.
Also in general, we should do a survey of which computer parts esp
monitors are functional. Would be nice to have a row of desktops set up in
the common area...I think they have a bar-like configuration at the holdout
with a few PCs.
Cheers,
Hol
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4:23 p.m.
New subject: donated PCs - which ones are fastest?
A linux install & inventory day sounds like a great idea. I volunteer! I volunteer!
TIL suggestions:
- linux install day
- hardware assessment & repair (can b combined with the above)
- the art of intuitive troubleshooting (and believe me it is ultimately an art)
Cheers,
Raymond Lai
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On Apr 23, 2013, at 3:49 PM, William Budington <bill(a)inputoutput.io> wrote:
It'd be cool to have a Linux installfest / fixup
day! Folks can bring
their own computers to install Linux on and we can provide the
installation media. Today I learned sounds like a good place for it.
Bill
On 04/23/2013 01:47 PM, Marina Kukso wrote:
hey hol, thanks for kicking off the dreaded
repair discussion. would anyone
be interested in a "fix it day" today i learned sometime soon?
- marina
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We might have somebody coming by to showcase a kinect/arduino based
project and from my undestanding it runs on PCs "the faster the better"
Anyone know offhand which of the armada of donated boxes might be most
powerful? Planning to set one up tonight.
Also in general, we should do a survey of which computer parts esp
monitors are functional. Would be nice to have a row of desktops set up in
the common area...I think they have a bar-like configuration at the holdout
with a few PCs.
Cheers,
Hol
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4:36 p.m.
New subject: donated PCs - which ones are fastest?
Yeah im down. that sounds great.
On Apr 23, 2013 4:24 PM, "Ray Lai" <raymond.wm.lai(a)gmail.com> wrote:
A linux install & inventory day sounds like a
great idea. I volunteer! I
volunteer!
TIL suggestions:
- linux install day
- hardware assessment & repair (can b combined with the above)
- the art of intuitive troubleshooting (and believe me it is ultimately an
art)
Cheers,
Raymond Lai
Ice Cream Man
Atomic Ice Cream
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It'd be cool to have a Linux installfest /
fixup day! Folks can bring
their own computers to install Linux on and we can provide the
installation media. Today I learned sounds like a good place for it.
Bill
On 04/23/2013 01:47 PM, Marina Kukso wrote:
> hey hol, thanks for kicking off the dreaded repair discussion. would
anyone
> be interested in a "fix it day"
today i learned sometime soon?
>
> - marina
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 12:34 PM, Hol Gaskill <hol(a)gaskill.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Folks,
>>
>> We might have somebody coming by to showcase a kinect/arduino based
>> project and from my undestanding it runs on PCs "the faster the
better"
>>
>> Anyone know offhand which of the armada of donated boxes might be most
>> powerful? Planning to set one up tonight.
>>
>> Also in general, we should do a survey of which computer parts esp
>> monitors are functional. Would be nice to have a row of desktops set
up
in
>> the common area...I think they have a
bar-like configuration at the
holdout
with a few PCs.
Cheers,
Hol
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7:13 p.m.
New subject: donated PCs - which ones are fastest?
I can pitch in to that -- I wouldn't dread it at all! Only thing is, if it
happens on a Saturday, I'll have to bring Calvin along, which means it
would be helpful to have another kid or 2 there (Ray?) to play with!
--Naomi
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Sonja Trauss <sonja.trauss(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
Yeah im down. that sounds great.
On Apr 23, 2013 4:24 PM, "Ray Lai" <raymond.wm.lai(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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A linux install & inventory day sounds like
a great idea. I volunteer! I
volunteer!
TIL suggestions:
- linux install day
- hardware assessment & repair (can b combined with the above)
- the art of intuitive troubleshooting (and believe me it is ultimately
an art)
Cheers,
Raymond Lai
Ice Cream Man
Atomic Ice Cream
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It'd be cool to have a Linux installfest /
fixup day! Folks can bring
their own computers to install Linux on and we can provide the
installation media. Today I learned sounds like a good place for it.
Bill
On 04/23/2013 01:47 PM, Marina Kukso wrote:
> hey hol, thanks for kicking off the dreaded repair discussion. would
anyone
> be interested in a "fix it day"
today i learned sometime soon?
>
> - marina
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 12:34 PM, Hol Gaskill <hol(a)gaskill.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Folks,
>>
>> We might have somebody coming by to showcase a kinect/arduino based
>> project and from my undestanding it runs on PCs "the faster the
better"
>>
>> Anyone know offhand which of the armada of donated boxes might be most
>> powerful? Planning to set one up tonight.
>>
>> Also in general, we should do a survey of which computer parts esp
>> monitors are functional. Would be nice to have a row of desktops set
up
in
>> the common area...I think they have a
bar-like configuration at the
holdout
> with
a few PCs.
>
> Cheers,
> Hol
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7:51 p.m.
New subject: donated PCs - which ones are fastest?
all right guys, you asked for it...may 18th!
https://sudoroom.org/wiki/page/Today_I_Learned#May_18_Fix-It_Day.21
- marina
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 7:13 PM, Naomi Most <pnaomi(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I can pitch in to that -- I wouldn't dread it at
all! Only thing is, if
it happens on a Saturday, I'll have to bring Calvin along, which means it
would be helpful to have another kid or 2 there (Ray?) to play with!
--Naomi
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Sonja Trauss <sonja.trauss(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
Yeah im down. that sounds great.
On Apr 23, 2013 4:24 PM, "Ray Lai" <raymond.wm.lai(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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A linux install & inventory day sounds like
a great idea. I volunteer!
I volunteer!
TIL suggestions:
- linux install day
- hardware assessment & repair (can b combined with the above)
- the art of intuitive troubleshooting (and believe me it is ultimately
an art)
Cheers,
Raymond Lai
Ice Cream Man
Atomic Ice Cream
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On Apr 23, 2013, at 3:49 PM, William Budington <bill(a)inputoutput.io>
wrote:
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It'd be cool to have a Linux installfest /
fixup day! Folks can bring
their own computers to install Linux on and we can provide the
installation media. Today I learned sounds like a good place for it.
Bill
On 04/23/2013 01:47 PM, Marina Kukso wrote:
> hey hol, thanks for kicking off the dreaded repair discussion. would
anyone
> be interested in a "fix it day"
today i learned sometime soon?
>
> - marina
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 12:34 PM, Hol Gaskill <hol(a)gaskill.com>
wrote:
>
>> Hi Folks,
>>
>> We might have somebody coming by to showcase a kinect/arduino based
>> project and from my undestanding it runs on PCs "the faster the
better"
>>
>> Anyone know offhand which of the armada of donated boxes might be
most
>> powerful? Planning to set one up
tonight.
>>
>> Also in general, we should do a survey of which computer parts esp
>> monitors are functional. Would be nice to have a row of desktops
set up
in
>> the common area...I think they have a
bar-like configuration at the
holdout
>> with a few PCs.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Hol
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11:25 p.m.
New subject: donated PCs - which ones are fastest?
Yay!!! I've been wanting to suggest this one for awhile. I'll be
note-taking for the NoBAWC meeting earlier that day so will definitely be
around to help set up. If some folks could bring in or donate USB sticks
with Linux distros on them, that would be especially cool. In fact, I may
even use this an an opportunity to seed the Pyre project, which has been on
the backburner for a good year's time, and buy some thumbdrives for the
occasion:
Civilization has crumbled, and everywhere all things are burning.
You have a multi-tool, a tiny laptop, and a 32GB USB stick.
What's on the stick?
More at http://thepyre.org - Feel free to contribute to the ongoing wiki at
http://thepyre.org/wiki! :)
<3 jnny
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On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 7:51 PM, Marina Kukso <marina.kukso(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
all right guys, you asked for it...may 18th!
https://sudoroom.org/wiki/page/Today_I_Learned#May_18_Fix-It_Day.21
- marina
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 7:13 PM, Naomi Most <pnaomi(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I can pitch in to that -- I wouldn't dread it
at all! Only thing is, if
it happens on a Saturday, I'll have to bring Calvin along, which means it
would be helpful to have another kid or 2 there (Ray?) to play with!
--Naomi
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Sonja Trauss <sonja.trauss(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
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A linux install & inventory day sounds like
a great idea. I volunteer!
I volunteer!
TIL suggestions:
- linux install day
- hardware assessment & repair (can b combined with the above)
- the art of intuitive troubleshooting (and believe me it is ultimately
an art)
Cheers,
Raymond Lai
Ice Cream Man
Atomic Ice Cream
Facebook.com/MotoAtomico
On Apr 23, 2013, at 3:49 PM, William Budington <bill(a)inputoutput.io>
wrote:
> It'd be cool to have a Linux installfest / fixup day! Folks can bring
> their own computers to install Linux on and we can provide the
> installation media. Today I learned sounds like a good place for it.
> Bill
>
> On 04/23/2013 01:47 PM, Marina Kukso wrote:
>> hey hol, thanks for kicking off the dreaded repair discussion. would
anyone
>> be interested in a "fix it day" today i learned sometime soon?
>>
>> - marina
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 12:34 PM, Hol Gaskill <hol(a)gaskill.com>
wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Folks,
>>>
>>> We might have somebody coming by to showcase a kinect/arduino based
>>> project and from my undestanding it runs on PCs "the faster the
better"
>>>
>>> Anyone know offhand which of the armada of donated boxes might be
most
>>> powerful? Planning to set one up tonight.
>>>
>>> Also in general, we should do a survey of which computer parts esp
>>> monitors are functional. Would be nice to have a row of desktops
set up in
>>> the common area...I think they have a bar-like configuration at the
holdout
>>> with a few PCs.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Hol
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>>
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New subject: donated PCs - which ones are fastest?
I can burn a bunch of CDs/DVDs of the latest distros and bring a USB DVD
reader to install. I'll definitely be down to help people install Linux
and get acquainted with some command-line basics. Excellent!!!
On 04/23/2013 11:25 PM, Jenny Ryan wrote:
Yay!!! I've been wanting to suggest this one for
awhile. I'll be
note-taking for the NoBAWC meeting earlier that day so will definitely be
around to help set up. If some folks could bring in or donate USB sticks
with Linux distros on them, that would be especially cool. In fact, I may
even use this an an opportunity to seed the Pyre project, which has been on
the backburner for a good year's time, and buy some thumbdrives for the
occasion:
Civilization has crumbled, and everywhere all things are burning.
You have a multi-tool, a tiny laptop, and a 32GB USB stick.
What's on the stick?
More at http://thepyre.org - Feel free to contribute to the ongoing wiki at
http://thepyre.org/wiki! :)
<3 jnny
Jenny
http://jennyryan.net
http://thepyre.org
http://thevirtualcampfire.org
http://technomadic.tumblr.com
`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
"Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories."
-Laurie Anderson
"Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it."
-Hannah Arendt
"To define is to kill. To suggest is to create."
-Stéphane Mallarmé
~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 7:51 PM, Marina Kukso <marina.kukso(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
all right guys, you asked for it...may 18th!
https://sudoroom.org/wiki/page/Today_I_Learned#May_18_Fix-It_Day.21
- marina
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I can pitch in to that -- I wouldn't dread it
at all! Only thing is, if
it happens on a Saturday, I'll have to bring Calvin along, which means it
would be helpful to have another kid or 2 there (Ray?) to play with!
--Naomi
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Yeah im down. that sounds great.
On Apr 23, 2013 4:24 PM, "Ray Lai" <raymond.wm.lai(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> A linux install & inventory day sounds like a great idea. I volunteer!
> I volunteer!
>
> TIL suggestions:
> - linux install day
> - hardware assessment & repair (can b combined with the above)
> - the art of intuitive troubleshooting (and believe me it is ultimately
> an art)
>
> Cheers,
>
> Raymond Lai
> Ice Cream Man
> Atomic Ice Cream
> Facebook.com/MotoAtomico
>
> On Apr 23, 2013, at 3:49 PM, William Budington <bill(a)inputoutput.io>
> wrote:
>
>> It'd be cool to have a Linux installfest / fixup day! Folks can bring
>> their own computers to install Linux on and we can provide the
>> installation media. Today I learned sounds like a good place for it.
>> Bill
>>
>> On 04/23/2013 01:47 PM, Marina Kukso wrote:
>>> hey hol, thanks for kicking off the dreaded repair discussion. would
> anyone
>>> be interested in a "fix it day" today i learned sometime soon?
>>>
>>> - marina
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 12:34 PM, Hol Gaskill <hol(a)gaskill.com>
> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Folks,
>>>>
>>>> We might have somebody coming by to showcase a kinect/arduino based
>>>> project and from my undestanding it runs on PCs "the faster the
> better"
>>>>
>>>> Anyone know offhand which of the armada of donated boxes might be
> most
>>>> powerful? Planning to set one up tonight.
>>>>
>>>> Also in general, we should do a survey of which computer parts esp
>>>> monitors are functional. Would be nice to have a row of desktops
> set up in
>>>> the common area...I think they have a bar-like configuration at the
> holdout
>>>> with a few PCs.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Hol
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24 Apr
12:13 a.m.
New subject: donated PCs - which ones are fastest?
I also burned a few months ago a variety of about 8 piquant distros the cds
of which are on the shelves and the images are in a folder on the 3d
printer workstation desktop.
On Apr 23, 2013 11:47 PM, "William Budington" <bill(a)inputoutput.io>
wrote:
I can burn a bunch of CDs/DVDs of the latest distros
and bring a USB DVD
reader to install. I'll definitely be down to help people install Linux
and get acquainted with some command-line basics. Excellent!!!
On 04/23/2013 11:25 PM, Jenny Ryan wrote:
volunteer!
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Yay!!! I've been wanting to suggest this one
for awhile. I'll be
note-taking for the NoBAWC meeting earlier that day so will definitely be
around to help set up. If some folks could bring in or donate USB sticks
with Linux distros on them, that would be especially cool. In fact, I may
even use this an an opportunity to seed the Pyre project, which has been
on
the backburner for a good year's time, and
buy some thumbdrives for the
occasion:
Civilization has crumbled, and everywhere all things are burning.
You have a multi-tool, a tiny laptop, and a 32GB USB stick.
What's on the stick?
More at http://thepyre.org - Feel free to contribute to the ongoing
wiki at
http://thepyre.org/wiki! :)
<3 jnny
Jenny
http://jennyryan.net
http://thepyre.org
http://thevirtualcampfire.org
http://technomadic.tumblr.com
`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
"Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories."
-Laurie Anderson
"Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining
it."
-Hannah Arendt
"To define is to kill. To suggest is to create."
-Stéphane Mallarmé
~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 7:51 PM, Marina Kukso <marina.kukso(a)gmail.com
wrote:
> all right guys, you asked for it...may 18th!
>
> https://sudoroom.org/wiki/page/Today_I_Learned#May_18_Fix-It_Day.21
>
> - marina
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 7:13 PM, Naomi Most <pnaomi(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I can pitch in to that -- I wouldn't dread it at all! Only thing is,
if
>> it happens on a Saturday, I'll have
to bring Calvin along, which means
it
> would
be helpful to have another kid or 2 there (Ray?) to play with!
>
> --Naomi
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Sonja Trauss <sonja.trauss(a)gmail.com
wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah im down. that sounds great.
>>> On Apr 23, 2013 4:24 PM, "Ray Lai" <raymond.wm.lai(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
>>>
>>>> A linux install & inventory day sounds like a great idea. I >>>> I volunteer!
>>>>
>>>> TIL suggestions:
>>>> - linux install day
>>>> - hardware assessment & repair (can b combined with the above)
>>>> - the art of intuitive troubleshooting (and believe me it is
ultimately
>>>> an art)
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Raymond Lai
>>>> Ice Cream Man
>>>> Atomic Ice Cream
>>>> Facebook.com/MotoAtomico
>>>>
>>>> On Apr 23, 2013, at 3:49 PM, William Budington
<bill(a)inputoutput.io>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> It'd be cool to have a Linux installfest / fixup day! Folks can
bring
>>>>> their own computers to
install Linux on and we can provide the
>>>>> installation media. Today I learned sounds like a good place for
it.
>>>>> Bill
>>>>>
>>>>> On 04/23/2013 01:47 PM, Marina Kukso wrote:
>>>>>> hey hol, thanks for kicking off the dreaded repair discussion.
would
>>>> anyone
>>>>>> be interested in a "fix it day" today i learned
sometime soon?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - marina
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 12:34 PM, Hol Gaskill
<hol(a)gaskill.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Folks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We might have somebody coming by to showcase a kinect/arduino
based
>>>>>>> project and from my
undestanding it runs on PCs "the faster the
>>>> better"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anyone know offhand which of the armada of donated boxes
might be
>>>> most
>>>>>>> powerful? Planning to set one up tonight.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also in general, we should do a survey of which computer
parts esp
>>>>>>> monitors are functional. Would be nice to have a row of
desktops
>>>> set up in
>>>>>>> the common area...I think they have a bar-like configuration
at
the
>> holdout
>>>>> with a few PCs.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Hol
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> sudo-discuss mailing list
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>>>>> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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2:08 a.m.
New subject: donated PCs - which ones are fastest?
sounds like we're going to be metabolizing some of the hardware that has been building
up in storage...excellent (a la mr. burns)
Apr 24, 2013 12:14:01 AM, di.franco(a)aya.yale.edu wrote:
I also burned a few months ago a variety of about 8 piquant distros the cds of which are
on the shelves and the images are in a folder on the 3d printer workstation desktop.
On Apr 23, 2013 11:47 PM, "William Budington" bill(a)inputoutput.io> wrote:
I can burn a bunch of CDs/DVDs of the latest distros and bring a USB DVD
reader to install. I'll definitely be down
to help people install Linux
and get acquainted with some command-line
basics. Excellent!!!
On 04/23/2013 11:25 PM, Jenny Ryan wrote:
> Yay!!! I've been wanting to suggest
this one for awhile. I'll be
> note-taking for the NoBAWC meeting earlier
that day so will definitely be
> around to help set up. If some folks could
bring in or donate USB sticks
> with Linux distros on them, that would be
especially cool. In fact, I may
> even use this an an opportunity to seed the
Pyre project, which has been on
> the backburner for a good year's time,
and buy some thumbdrives for the
> occasion:
> Civilization has crumbled, and everywhere
all things are burning.
> You have a multi-tool, a tiny laptop, and a
32GB USB stick.
> What's on the stick?
> More at http://thepyre.org - Feel free to
contribute to the ongoing wiki at
> http://thepyre.org/wiki! :)
>
> Jenny
> http://jennyryan.net
> http://thepyre.org
> http://thevirtualcampfire.org
> http://technomadic.tumblr.com
> `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
> "Technology is the campfire around
which we tell our stories."
> -Laurie Anderson
> "Storytelling reveals meaning without
committing the error of defining it."
> -Hannah Arendt
> "To define is to kill. To suggest is
to create."
> -Stéphane Mallarmé
> ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 7:51 PM, Marina
Kukso marina.kukso(a)gmail.com>wroteote:
>> all right guys, you asked for it...may
18th!
>
>> https://sudoroom.org/wiki/page/Today_I_Learned#May_18_Fix-It_Day.21
>
>> - marina
>
>
>> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 7:13 PM, Naomi Most pnaomi(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> I can pitch in to that -- I wouldn't dread it at all! Only thing
is, if
>>> it happens on a Saturday, I'll
have to bring Calvin along, which means it
>>> would be helpful to have another
kid or 2 there (Ray?) to play with!
>>
>>> --Naomi
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Sonja Trauss
sonja.trauss(a)gmail.com>wroteote:
>>
>>>> Yeah im down. that sounds great.
>>>> On Apr 23, 2013 4:24 PM,
"Ray Lai" raymond.wm.lai(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> A linux install & inventory day sounds like a great idea.
I volunteer!
>>>>> I volunteer!
>>>>
>>>>> TIL suggestions:
>>>>> - linux install day
>>>>> - hardware assessment &
repair (can b combined with the above)
>>>>> - the art of intuitive
troubleshooting (and believe me it is ultimately
>>>>> an art)
>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>>> Raymond Lai
>>>>> Ice Cream Man
>>>>> Atomic Ice Cream
>>>>> Facebook.com/MotoAtomico
>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 23, 2013, at 3:49 PM, William Budington
bill(a)inputoutput.io
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> It'd be cool to have a Linux installfest / fixup day!
Folks can bring
>>>>>> their own computers to
install Linux on and we can provide the
>>>>>> installation media.
Today I learned sounds like a good place for it.
>>>>>> Bill
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 04/23/2013 01:47 PM, Marina Kukso wrote:
>>>>>>> hey hol, thanks for
kicking off the dreaded repair discussion. would
>>>>> anyone
>>>>>>> be interested in a
"fix it day" today i learned sometime soon?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - marina
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 12:34 PM, Hol Gaskill
hol(a)gaskill.com
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Folks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We might have somebody coming by to showcase a
kinect/arduino based
>>>>>>>> project and
from my undestanding it runs on PCs "the faster the
>>>>> better"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Anyone know offhand which of the armada of donated
boxes might be
>>>>> most
>>>>>>>> powerful?
Planning to set one up tonight.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Also in general, we should do a survey of which
computer parts esp
>>>>>>>> monitors are
functional. Would be nice to have a row of desktops
>>>>> set up in
>>>>>>>> the common
area...I think they have a bar-like configuration at the
>>>>> holdout
>>>>>>>> with a few
PCs.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Hol
>>>>>>>>
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mailing list
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>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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10:12 a.m.
New subject: donated PCs - which ones are fastest?
Yay! Marina, as always u rock!
Raymond Lai
Ice Cream Man
Atomic Ice Cream
Facebook.com/MotoAtomico
On Apr 23, 2013, at 7:51 PM, Marina Kukso <marina.kukso(a)gmail.com> wrote:
all right guys, you asked for it...may 18th!
https://sudoroom.org/wiki/page/Today_I_Learned#May_18_Fix-It_Day.21
- marina
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 7:13 PM, Naomi Most <pnaomi(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I can pitch in to that -- I wouldn't dread it at all! Only thing is, if it happens
on a Saturday, I'll have to bring Calvin along, which means it would be helpful to
have another kid or 2 there (Ray?) to play with!
--Naomi
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Sonja Trauss <sonja.trauss(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Yeah im down. that sounds great.
On Apr 23, 2013 4:24 PM, "Ray Lai" <raymond.wm.lai(a)gmail.com> wrote:
A linux install & inventory day sounds like a great idea. I volunteer! I volunteer!
TIL suggestions:
- linux install day
- hardware assessment & repair (can b combined with the above)
- the art of intuitive troubleshooting (and believe me it is ultimately an art)
Cheers,
Raymond Lai
Ice Cream Man
Atomic Ice Cream
Facebook.com/MotoAtomico
On Apr 23, 2013, at 3:49 PM, William Budington <bill(a)inputoutput.io> wrote:
It'd be cool to have a Linux installfest /
fixup day! Folks can bring
their own computers to install Linux on and we can provide the
installation media. Today I learned sounds like a good place for it.
Bill
On 04/23/2013 01:47 PM, Marina Kukso wrote:
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http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss hey hol, thanks for kicking off the dreaded
repair discussion. would anyone
be interested in a "fix it day" today i learned sometime soon?
- marina
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We might have somebody coming by to showcase a kinect/arduino based
project and from my undestanding it runs on PCs "the faster the better"
Anyone know offhand which of the armada of donated boxes might be most
powerful? Planning to set one up tonight.
Also in general, we should do a survey of which computer parts esp
monitors are functional. Would be nice to have a row of desktops set up in
the common area...I think they have a bar-like configuration at the holdout
with a few PCs.
Cheers,
Hol
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8:13 a.m.
New subject: donated PCs - which ones are fastest?
Atom n iris are with their mom on saturdays, but with enuf heads up i can bring them for
a SudoKids session! We will bring the kid books i've been meaning to bring and other
sundry supplies for SudoKids (art supplies, paper, bubble mix, food coloring, cornstarch,
baking soda, vinegar). Lets start up SudoKids at the same time! :) :)
Meow!
Raymond Lai
Ice Cream Man
Atomic Ice Cream
Facebook.com/MotoAtomico
On Apr 23, 2013, at 7:13 PM, Naomi Most <pnaomi(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I can pitch in to that -- I wouldn't dread it at
all! Only thing is, if it happens on a Saturday, I'll have to bring Calvin along,
which means it would be helpful to have another kid or 2 there (Ray?) to play with!
--Naomi
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Sonja Trauss <sonja.trauss(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Yeah im down. that sounds great.
On Apr 23, 2013 4:24 PM, "Ray Lai" <raymond.wm.lai(a)gmail.com> wrote:
A linux install & inventory day sounds like a great idea. I volunteer! I volunteer!
TIL suggestions:
- linux install day
- hardware assessment & repair (can b combined with the above)
- the art of intuitive troubleshooting (and believe me it is ultimately an art)
Cheers,
Raymond Lai
Ice Cream Man
Atomic Ice Cream
Facebook.com/MotoAtomico
On Apr 23, 2013, at 3:49 PM, William Budington <bill(a)inputoutput.io> wrote:
It'd be cool to have a Linux installfest /
fixup day! Folks can bring
their own computers to install Linux on and we can provide the
installation media. Today I learned sounds like a good place for it.
Bill
On 04/23/2013 01:47 PM, Marina Kukso wrote:
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http://twitter.com/nthmost hey hol, thanks for kicking off the dreaded
repair discussion. would anyone
be interested in a "fix it day" today i learned sometime soon?
- marina
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http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss Hi Folks,
We might have somebody coming by to showcase a kinect/arduino based
project and from my undestanding it runs on PCs "the faster the better"
Anyone know offhand which of the armada of donated boxes might be most
powerful? Planning to set one up tonight.
Also in general, we should do a survey of which computer parts esp
monitors are functional. Would be nice to have a row of desktops set up in
the common area...I think they have a bar-like configuration at the holdout
with a few PCs.
Cheers,
Hol
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New subject: donated PCs - which ones are fastest?
that'd be great - as a longtime windows user dabbling in linux for PC and RPi i often
hit a brick wall when it comes to the command line
Apr 23, 2013 03:49:11 PM, bill(a)inputoutput.io wrote:
It'd be cool to have a Linux installfest / fixup day! Folks can bring
their own computers to install Linux on and we can
provide the
installation media. Today I learned sounds like a good place for it.
Bill
On 04/23/2013 01:47 PM, Marina Kukso wrote:
hey hol, thanks for kicking off the dreaded
repair discussion. would anyone
be interested in a "fix it day" today i learned sometime soon?
- marina
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 12:34 PM, Hol Gaskill hol(a)gaskill.com> wrote:
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Hi Folks,
We might have somebody coming by to showcase a kinect/arduino based
project and from my undestanding it runs on PCs "the faster the better"
Anyone know offhand which of the armada of donated boxes might be most
powerful? Planning to set one up tonight.
Also in general, we should do a survey of which computer parts esp
monitors are functional. Would be nice to have a row of desktops set up in
the common area...I think they have a bar-like configuration at the holdout
with a few PCs.
Cheers,
Hol
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New subject: TONIGHT - Microcontroller Project Night @ sudo room!
Hi Folks,
Come on out tonight for some good ole fashioned tinkerin' at sudo room. Ongoing
projects include: humidity control and irrigation, semiautomatic beer brewing, RGB LED
alarm clock, stepper motor and servo control for CNC, and hopefully some work on hacking
the roomba into a science rover - if you're interested in any of these I can get you
started somewhere suitable to your skill level right when you arrive. All other projects
welcome!
There is a FB event too if you want to poke around and invite people:
https://www.facebook.com/events/360789300699531/
Upon reviewing the activities of the previous nights and listening to feedback on
providing more interactivity for newbies who may not yet have a project in mind, I'll
be giving 3 quick tutorials tonight: driving RGB LED strips, voltage regulation AKA how to
not fry your project's brain, and AVR board assembly for making your own controllers
from just one chip and a few passive components. So if you're interested in learning
the basics of how to use microcontrollers I'll have a few simple projects that people
can get started on, and as always there's a wealth of projects documented on the
internet for independent learning. Out "kit bits" collection is increasing
rapidly so we should have plenty of sensors, motors, and other odds and ends for people to
tinker with.
I've also realized I'm going to have to be more proactive about encouraging
collaboration between people on various projects. We have so many people interested in so
many things, and more importantly so motivated to build or hack things in order to improve
their environment, that it seems worthwhile to develop a framework for collaboration on
discrete projects so people can see at a glance what projects are happening first of all,
then get in contact with the people working on them and start collaborating. I have a few
ideas in mind for how to do this, but I really need YOUR input to help develop this idea
into something we will all want to use. What I'm shooting for is a database that can
be browsed visually (will NOT be very elegant at first...probably just a bunch of
thumbnails with lines going between them) that links projects together based on software,
hardware, technical area, dependency (like, my LED sombrero needs a power supply to work -
if someone's already designed the power supply, I can copy their design and focus on
driving the LEDs), and interface specifications (could be as simple as a plug type or a
format for sending serial data) somewhat in the vein of what open source ecology has done.
So to this end, I'd like to have a discussion on this around 8PM where we jot down
the projects we're working on and lay out how they're related, where there is
overlap that can be merged, and identify areas that are critical to moving forward but as
yet undersupported. So if you're generally busy tonight but might have a few minutes
to drop by to give some input, we could use your help for 20 minutes or so outlining such
a system.
Also, I am still wrangling the settings on the controllers list so please let me know if
you have any problems sending message, etc.
Hope to see y'all there,
Hol
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