9 Apr
2013
9 Apr
'13
1:55 a.m.
11:45pm at the 20th st bus stop (at Broadway) waiting for the 72M.
So, ah, watch yourselves.
I was transferring my iPad to my backpack when 2 muggers wrenched it out of
my hands and a third one maced me right in the eyes. I mean not just a
little spray, a serious "I mean to blind you" lengthy spray.
An emergency team showed up about 6 minutes after the incident, and the
cops showed up about 8 minutes after. They were very helpful.
One of them asked if I had "Find my Phone" installed, which I did. They
activated it and located the iPad right away. They detained 2 suspects who
were carrying the iPad.
I sat in the back of a cop car as they stood under the light. One suspect
wasn't so clear to me, and I said so -- I wasn't sure. The other suspect
was *definitely* the girl who maced me, so I said so. They let the guy go
and took the girl in. That felt really weird.
I'm going to write this up in more detail on my blog, because my face feels
like it's melting off so I'm not going to be able to sleep anyway.
What a strange experience.
--
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skype: nthmost
http://twitter.com/nthmost
9 Apr
9 Apr
2:33 a.m.
I just emailed Naomi privately; this part is for the SR list:
1) Any type of mobile device or anything that looks like one, including
tablets, is BIG BIG BIG mugging fodder these days, not just because the
devices can be resold, but because they contain personal data that can
be used to steal your identity or at least hijack your bank account.
Put your devices away before you leave SR, do not let them be seen when
you're on the street, EVEN in the DAYtime. In the Mission in SF, people
get robbed of their mobiles in the middle of the day: grab-and-run,
often getting pushed down or otherwise injured in the process.
2) ALWAYS go out in pairs, never alone. This was a feminist issue when
I was in college, it was called "Take Back the Night". These days it's
for guys as well as gals: everyone, even if you're built like a
sanitation worker and don't think anyone would ever want to mess with
you: the badguys have weapons.
3) If someone is going to be leaving after dark, always offer to
accompany them to whatever means of transport they use and wait with
them until they are moving (until they are on the road or on the bus or
in the paid area of BART etc. etc.). Take another person with you so
there are three going out and two coming back. Just DO IT as a matter
of routine.
4) We need cameras outside. I can get Panasonic outdoor cameras at
wholesale if SR or the building owner wants to buy them, they run on
Cat5 cable, power-over-ethernet, and can go into a network. I might
have a line on a couple of oldschool outdoor cameras in big housings
that are highly visible and may help as a deterrent, though they are not
network cameras. Ideal case, we put it online so any SR member can
watch the outside of the building, and it becomes normal to keep the
camera screens open while you're working at your computer.
5) We might want to consider self-defense classes or anything else that
can empower people. There are community/nonprofit groups that teach
various techniques for personal safety & defense, someone around here
probably knows how to find them. Part of it is "situational awareness":
being alert about the environment wherever you are, potential risks,
potential safety advantages, who's around, what to do if a risk turns
into a direct threat, etc.
6) We need a meeting topic on security, and an ongoing discussion about
it. This topic is always going to be current.
Enough was enough long ago! No more!
-G.
======
On 13-04-09-Tue 1:55 AM, Naomi Most wrote:
11:45pm at the 20th st bus stop (at Broadway) waiting
for the 72M.
So, ah, watch yourselves.
I was transferring my iPad to my backpack when 2 muggers wrenched it
out of my hands and a third one maced me right in the eyes. I mean
not just a little spray, a serious "I mean to blind you" lengthy spray.
An emergency team showed up about 6 minutes after the incident, and
the cops showed up about 8 minutes after. They were very helpful.
One of them asked if I had "Find my Phone" installed, which I did.
They activated it and located the iPad right away. They detained 2
suspects who were carrying the iPad.
I sat in the back of a cop car as they stood under the light. One
suspect wasn't so clear to me, and I said so -- I wasn't sure. The
other suspect was *definitely* the girl who maced me, so I said so.
They let the guy go and took the girl in. That felt really weird.
I'm going to write this up in more detail on my blog, because my face
feels like it's melting off so I'm not going to be able to sleep anyway.
What a strange experience.
--
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8:54 a.m.
Wow, naomi, I am so sorry that happened to you. Let me know if there's
anything I can do to help.
George, thanks for your well-meaning advice but I will continue to roam the
streets of oakland alone, and would be happier for advice that didn't read
like orders to limit my mobility or autonomy in such. Additionally, please
be careful with drawing parallels between movements for women's safety
around sexual assault, and general mugging/assault, as they are entirely
different things.
If folks want to do a learning session/circle on being streetwise I am sure
many of us have good advice to share....
Don't be the low hanging fruit! Leave that to the drunk yuppies.
R.
On Apr 9, 2013 2:33 AM, "Anon195714" <anon195714(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:
I just emailed Naomi privately; this part is for the SR list:
1) Any type of mobile device or anything that looks like one, including
tablets, is BIG BIG BIG mugging fodder these days, not just because the
devices can be resold, but because they contain personal data that can be
used to steal your identity or at least hijack your bank account. Put
your devices away before you leave SR, do not let them be seen when you're
on the street, EVEN in the DAYtime. In the Mission in SF, people get
robbed of their mobiles in the middle of the day: grab-and-run, often
getting pushed down or otherwise injured in the process.
2) ALWAYS go out in pairs, never alone. This was a feminist issue when I
was in college, it was called "Take Back the Night". These days it's for
guys as well as gals: everyone, even if you're built like a sanitation
worker and don't think anyone would ever want to mess with you: the badguys
have weapons.
3) If someone is going to be leaving after dark, always offer to
accompany them to whatever means of transport they use and wait with them
until they are moving (until they are on the road or on the bus or in the
paid area of BART etc. etc.). Take another person with you so there are
three going out and two coming back. Just DO IT as a matter of routine.
4) We need cameras outside. I can get Panasonic outdoor cameras at
wholesale if SR or the building owner wants to buy them, they run on Cat5
cable, power-over-ethernet, and can go into a network. I might have a line
on a couple of oldschool outdoor cameras in big housings that are highly
visible and may help as a deterrent, though they are not network cameras.
Ideal case, we put it online so any SR member can watch the outside of the
building, and it becomes normal to keep the camera screens open while
you're working at your computer.
5) We might want to consider self-defense classes or anything else that
can empower people. There are community/nonprofit groups that teach
various techniques for personal safety & defense, someone around here
probably knows how to find them. Part of it is "situational awareness":
being alert about the environment wherever you are, potential risks,
potential safety advantages, who's around, what to do if a risk turns into
a direct threat, etc.
6) We need a meeting topic on security, and an ongoing discussion about
it. This topic is always going to be current.
Enough was enough long ago! No more!
-G.
======
On 13-04-09-Tue 1:55 AM, Naomi Most wrote:
11:45pm at the 20th st bus stop (at Broadway) waiting for the 72M.
So, ah, watch yourselves.
I was transferring my iPad to my backpack when 2 muggers wrenched it out
of my hands and a third one maced me right in the eyes. I mean not just a
little spray, a serious "I mean to blind you" lengthy spray.
An emergency team showed up about 6 minutes after the incident, and the
cops showed up about 8 minutes after. They were very helpful.
One of them asked if I had "Find my Phone" installed, which I did. They
activated it and located the iPad right away. They detained 2 suspects who
were carrying the iPad.
I sat in the back of a cop car as they stood under the light. One
suspect wasn't so clear to me, and I said so -- I wasn't sure. The other
suspect was *definitely* the girl who maced me, so I said so. They let the
guy go and took the girl in. That felt really weird.
I'm going to write this up in more detail on my blog, because my face
feels like it's melting off so I'm not going to be able to sleep anyway.
What a strange experience.
--
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skype: nthmost
http://twitter.com/nthmost
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9 a.m.
:j I had kinda the same reaction to george's advice too.
I want to read this blog post! email us when it's ready!
This story is kindof amazing - obviously it's terrible, but I love the
part about the police showing up quickly, recovering your stuff, and
arresting the perp! I've never heard of police doing all of those
things!
On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 8:54 AM, rachel lyra hospodar
<rachelyra(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Wow, naomi, I am so sorry that happened to you. Let me
know if there's
anything I can do to help.
George, thanks for your well-meaning advice but I will continue to roam the
streets of oakland alone, and would be happier for advice that didn't read
like orders to limit my mobility or autonomy in such. Additionally, please
be careful with drawing parallels between movements for women's safety
around sexual assault, and general mugging/assault, as they are entirely
different things.
If folks want to do a learning session/circle on being streetwise I am sure
many of us have good advice to share....
Don't be the low hanging fruit! Leave that to the drunk yuppies.
R.
On Apr 9, 2013 2:33 AM, "Anon195714" <anon195714(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:
I just emailed Naomi privately; this part is for the SR list:
1) Any type of mobile device or anything that looks like one, including
tablets, is BIG BIG BIG mugging fodder these days, not just because the
devices can be resold, but because they contain personal data that can be
used to steal your identity or at least hijack your bank account. Put your
devices away before you leave SR, do not let them be seen when you're on the
street, EVEN in the DAYtime. In the Mission in SF, people get robbed of
their mobiles in the middle of the day: grab-and-run, often getting pushed
down or otherwise injured in the process.
2) ALWAYS go out in pairs, never alone. This was a feminist issue when I
was in college, it was called "Take Back the Night". These days it's for
guys as well as gals: everyone, even if you're built like a sanitation
worker and don't think anyone would ever want to mess with you: the badguys
have weapons.
3) If someone is going to be leaving after dark, always offer to
accompany them to whatever means of transport they use and wait with them
until they are moving (until they are on the road or on the bus or in the
paid area of BART etc. etc.). Take another person with you so there are
three going out and two coming back. Just DO IT as a matter of routine.
4) We need cameras outside. I can get Panasonic outdoor cameras at
wholesale if SR or the building owner wants to buy them, they run on Cat5
cable, power-over-ethernet, and can go into a network. I might have a line
on a couple of oldschool outdoor cameras in big housings that are highly
visible and may help as a deterrent, though they are not network cameras.
Ideal case, we put it online so any SR member can watch the outside of the
building, and it becomes normal to keep the camera screens open while you're
working at your computer.
5) We might want to consider self-defense classes or anything else that
can empower people. There are community/nonprofit groups that teach various
techniques for personal safety & defense, someone around here probably knows
how to find them. Part of it is "situational awareness": being alert about
the environment wherever you are, potential risks, potential safety
advantages, who's around, what to do if a risk turns into a direct threat,
etc.
6) We need a meeting topic on security, and an ongoing discussion about
it. This topic is always going to be current.
Enough was enough long ago! No more!
-G.
======
On 13-04-09-Tue 1:55 AM, Naomi Most wrote:
11:45pm at the 20th st bus stop (at Broadway) waiting for the 72M.
So, ah, watch yourselves.
I was transferring my iPad to my backpack when 2 muggers wrenched it out
of my hands and a third one maced me right in the eyes. I mean not just a
little spray, a serious "I mean to blind you" lengthy spray.
An emergency team showed up about 6 minutes after the incident, and the
cops showed up about 8 minutes after. They were very helpful.
One of them asked if I had "Find my Phone" installed, which I did. They
activated it and located the iPad right away. They detained 2 suspects who
were carrying the iPad.
I sat in the back of a cop car as they stood under the light. One suspect
wasn't so clear to me, and I said so -- I wasn't sure. The other suspect was
*definitely* the girl who maced me, so I said so. They let the guy go and
took the girl in. That felt really weird.
I'm going to write this up in more detail on my blog, because my face
feels like it's melting off so I'm not going to be able to sleep anyway.
What a strange experience.
--
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skype: nthmost
http://twitter.com/nthmost
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10:56 a.m.
Aww Naomi that sucks. I am also glad you had a quick helpful response and I
hope your face feels better soon and you don't have any long term effects
from that. Yikes!!
Got to agree with Rachel and Sonja here, I'm not going to stop walking
around at night or in the day time by myself. Independent mobility in
public is important to me. I also often need to work on my laptop on the
bus, on long bus rides during the day while I'm "at work", and have got to
trust to my general street smarts and ability to connect well with random
other people, which I guess falls under "situational awareness" but I would
say social awareness as well.
- Liz
On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 9:00 AM, Sonja Trauss <sonja.trauss(a)gmail.com> wrote:
:j I had kinda the same reaction to george's
advice too.
I want to read this blog post! email us when it's ready!
This story is kindof amazing - obviously it's terrible, but I love the
part about the police showing up quickly, recovering your stuff, and
arresting the perp! I've never heard of police doing all of those
things!
On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 8:54 AM, rachel lyra hospodar
<rachelyra(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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Wow, naomi, I am so sorry that happened to you.
Let me know if there's
anything I can do to help.
George, thanks for your well-meaning advice but I will continue to roam
the
streets of oakland alone, and would be happier
for advice that didn't
read
like orders to limit my mobility or autonomy in
such. Additionally,
please
be careful with drawing parallels between
movements for women's safety
around sexual assault, and general mugging/assault, as they are entirely
different things.
If folks want to do a learning session/circle on being streetwise I am
sure
many of us have good advice to share....
Don't be the low hanging fruit! Leave that to the drunk yuppies.
R.
On Apr 9, 2013 2:33 AM, "Anon195714" <anon195714(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>
> I just emailed Naomi privately; this part is for the SR list:
>
> 1) Any type of mobile device or anything that looks like one, including
> tablets, is BIG BIG BIG mugging fodder these days, not just because the
> devices can be resold, but because they contain personal data that can
be
> used to steal your identity or at least
hijack your bank account. Put
your
> devices away before you leave SR, do not let
them be seen when you're
on the
> street, EVEN in the DAYtime. In the Mission
in SF, people get robbed of
> their mobiles in the middle of the day: grab-and-run, often getting
pushed
> down or otherwise injured in the process.
>
> 2) ALWAYS go out in pairs, never alone. This was a feminist issue
when I
> was in college, it was called "Take Back
the Night". These days it's
for
> guys as well as gals: everyone, even if
you're built like a sanitation
> worker and don't think anyone would ever want to mess with you: the
badguys
> have weapons.
>
> 3) If someone is going to be leaving after dark, always offer to
> accompany them to whatever means of transport they use and wait with
them
> until they are moving (until they are on the
road or on the bus or in
the
> paid area of BART etc. etc.). Take another
person with you so there are
> three going out and two coming back. Just DO IT as a matter of routine.
>
> 4) We need cameras outside. I can get Panasonic outdoor cameras at
> wholesale if SR or the building owner wants to buy them, they run on
Cat5
> cable, power-over-ethernet, and can go into a
network. I might have a
line
> on a couple of oldschool outdoor cameras in
big housings that are highly
> visible and may help as a deterrent, though they are not network
cameras.
> Ideal case, we put it online so any SR member
can watch the outside of
the
> building, and it becomes normal to keep the
camera screens open while
you're
> working at your computer.
>
> 5) We might want to consider self-defense classes or anything else that
> can empower people. There are community/nonprofit groups that teach
various
> techniques for personal safety & defense,
someone around here probably
knows
> how to find them. Part of it is
"situational awareness": being alert
about
> the environment wherever you are, potential
risks, potential safety
> advantages, who's around, what to do if a risk turns into a direct
threat,
> etc.
>
> 6) We need a meeting topic on security, and an ongoing discussion about
> it. This topic is always going to be current.
>
> Enough was enough long ago! No more!
>
> -G.
>
>
> ======
>
>
>
> On 13-04-09-Tue 1:55 AM, Naomi Most wrote:
>
> 11:45pm at the 20th st bus stop (at Broadway) waiting for the 72M.
>
> So, ah, watch yourselves.
>
> I was transferring my iPad to my backpack when 2 muggers wrenched it out
> of my hands and a third one maced me right in the eyes. I mean not
just a
> little spray, a serious "I mean to blind
you" lengthy spray.
>
> An emergency team showed up about 6 minutes after the incident, and the
> cops showed up about 8 minutes after. They were very helpful.
>
> One of them asked if I had "Find my Phone" installed, which I did. They
> activated it and located the iPad right away. They detained 2 suspects
who
> were carrying the iPad.
>
> I sat in the back of a cop car as they stood under the light. One
suspect
> wasn't so clear to me, and I said so -- I
wasn't sure. The other
suspect was
> *definitely* the girl who maced me, so I said
so. They let the guy go
and
took the
girl in. That felt really weird.
I'm going to write this up in more detail on my blog, because my face
feels like it's melting off so I'm not going to be able to sleep anyway.
What a strange experience.
--
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9:03 a.m.
Wow, Naomi, that really sucks. I'm glad you're okay, and you got your iPad.
It's good to hear about Oakland police doing something quickly and efficiently.
Anca.
On Apr 9, 2013, at 1:55 AM, Naomi Most wrote:
11:45pm at the 20th st bus stop (at Broadway) waiting
for the 72M.
So, ah, watch yourselves.
I was transferring my iPad to my backpack when 2 muggers wrenched it out of my hands and
a third one maced me right in the eyes. I mean not just a little spray, a serious "I
mean to blind you" lengthy spray.
An emergency team showed up about 6 minutes after the incident, and the cops showed up
about 8 minutes after. They were very helpful.
One of them asked if I had "Find my Phone" installed, which I did. They
activated it and located the iPad right away. They detained 2 suspects who were carrying
the iPad.
I sat in the back of a cop car as they stood under the light. One suspect wasn't so
clear to me, and I said so -- I wasn't sure. The other suspect was *definitely* the
girl who maced me, so I said so. They let the guy go and took the girl in. That felt
really weird.
I'm going to write this up in more detail on my blog, because my face feels like
it's melting off so I'm not going to be able to sleep anyway.
What a strange experience.
--
Naomi Theora Most
naomi(a)nthmost.com
+1-415-728-7490
skype: nthmost
http://twitter.com/nthmost
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10:07 a.m.
naomi, i'm so sorry that this happened to you, but like anca, i'm happy
that you were able to get help right away.
- marina
On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 9:03 AM, Anca Mosoiu <anca(a)techliminal.com> wrote:
Wow, Naomi, that really sucks. I'm glad
you're okay, and you got your
iPad.
It's good to hear about Oakland police doing something quickly and
efficiently.
Anca.
On Apr 9, 2013, at 1:55 AM, Naomi Most wrote:
11:45pm at the 20th st bus stop (at Broadway) waiting for the 72M.
So, ah, watch yourselves.
I was transferring my iPad to my backpack when 2 muggers wrenched it out
of my hands and a third one maced me right in the eyes. I mean not just a
little spray, a serious "I mean to blind you" lengthy spray.
An emergency team showed up about 6 minutes after the incident, and the
cops showed up about 8 minutes after. They were very helpful.
One of them asked if I had "Find my Phone" installed, which I did. They
activated it and located the iPad right away. They detained 2 suspects who
were carrying the iPad.
I sat in the back of a cop car as they stood under the light. One suspect
wasn't so clear to me, and I said so -- I wasn't sure. The other suspect
was *definitely* the girl who maced me, so I said so. They let the guy go
and took the girl in. That felt really weird.
I'm going to write this up in more detail on my blog, because my face
feels like it's melting off so I'm not going to be able to sleep anyway.
What a strange experience.
--
Naomi Theora Most
naomi(a)nthmost.com
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skype: nthmost
http://twitter.com/nthmost
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10:35 a.m.
Hi Naomi,
Really sorry this happened. Even more glad that you are ok! That's the
first time I've heard of the cops actually using "Find My Phone" stuff.
Tech savy cops are a good thing.
I know that every situation is different and who knows if this could have
been prevented, but maybe it's time to get serious about holding a self
defense class at Sudo Room.
Point of information: There are security cameras at 2141 Broadway. They are
IP cameras. The land lord gave us access at some point.
--Andrew
On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 10:07 AM, Marina Kukso <marina.kukso(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
naomi, i'm so sorry that this happened to you, but
like anca, i'm happy
that you were able to get help right away.
- marina
On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 9:03 AM, Anca Mosoiu <anca(a)techliminal.com> wrote:
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Wow, Naomi, that really sucks. I'm glad
you're okay, and you got your
iPad.
It's good to hear about Oakland police doing something quickly and
efficiently.
Anca.
On Apr 9, 2013, at 1:55 AM, Naomi Most wrote:
11:45pm at the 20th st bus stop (at Broadway) waiting for the 72M.
So, ah, watch yourselves.
I was transferring my iPad to my backpack when 2 muggers wrenched it out
of my hands and a third one maced me right in the eyes. I mean not just a
little spray, a serious "I mean to blind you" lengthy spray.
An emergency team showed up about 6 minutes after the incident, and the
cops showed up about 8 minutes after. They were very helpful.
One of them asked if I had "Find my Phone" installed, which I did. They
activated it and located the iPad right away. They detained 2 suspects who
were carrying the iPad.
I sat in the back of a cop car as they stood under the light. One
suspect wasn't so clear to me, and I said so -- I wasn't sure. The other
suspect was *definitely* the girl who maced me, so I said so. They let the
guy go and took the girl in. That felt really weird.
I'm going to write this up in more detail on my blog, because my face
feels like it's melting off so I'm not going to be able to sleep anyway.
What a strange experience.
--
Naomi Theora Most
naomi(a)nthmost.com
+1-415-728-7490
skype: nthmost
http://twitter.com/nthmost
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12:41 p.m.
I had heard of police using Find My Phone before, though not OPD. I was
pretty overjoyed when the one guy mentioned it. I was not happy about
giving away my password, but that sort of comes with the territory when you
are functionally blind and hyperventilating...
...which for a second flashed in my mind as, "wow, what a racket that would
be -- get a kid to pepper spray someone with a smartphone, then con them
into giving you their password so you can harvest valuable data from the
stolen item."
But I am at least 90% certain the cops' glee at having access to my Apple
account was due to them now having a really sweet tracking device.
Indeed they seemed pretty upbeat through the whole thing. I got the sense
that they *loved* the Find My Phone technology because it meant they could
make more arrests and "solve" crimes in the moment.
The superior officer kept admonishing me, when I asked what he was doing,
that this "wasn't like CSI". I was 50% annoyed (I was just asking whether
they needed to hold on to my iPad for evidence) and 50% feeling sorry for
him, because I'm sure those shows have heavily informed how people now
interact with the police.
--Naomi
On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 10:35 AM, Andrew <andrew(a)roshambomedia.com> wrote:
Hi Naomi,
Really sorry this happened. Even more glad that you are ok! That's the
first time I've heard of the cops actually using "Find My Phone" stuff.
Tech savy cops are a good thing.
I know that every situation is different and who knows if this could have
been prevented, but maybe it's time to get serious about holding a self
defense class at Sudo Room.
Point of information: There are security cameras at 2141 Broadway. They
are IP cameras. The land lord gave us access at some point.
--Andrew
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naomi, i'm so sorry that this happened to
you, but like anca, i'm happy
that you were able to get help right away.
- marina
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Wow, Naomi, that really sucks. I'm glad
you're okay, and you got your
iPad.
It's good to hear about Oakland police doing something quickly and
efficiently.
Anca.
On Apr 9, 2013, at 1:55 AM, Naomi Most wrote:
11:45pm at the 20th st bus stop (at Broadway) waiting for the 72M.
So, ah, watch yourselves.
I was transferring my iPad to my backpack when 2 muggers wrenched it out
of my hands and a third one maced me right in the eyes. I mean not just a
little spray, a serious "I mean to blind you" lengthy spray.
An emergency team showed up about 6 minutes after the incident, and the
cops showed up about 8 minutes after. They were very helpful.
One of them asked if I had "Find my Phone" installed, which I did. They
activated it and located the iPad right away. They detained 2 suspects who
were carrying the iPad.
I sat in the back of a cop car as they stood under the light. One
suspect wasn't so clear to me, and I said so -- I wasn't sure. The other
suspect was *definitely* the girl who maced me, so I said so. They let the
guy go and took the girl in. That felt really weird.
I'm going to write this up in more detail on my blog, because my face
feels like it's melting off so I'm not going to be able to sleep anyway.
What a strange experience.
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12:34 p.m.
Thanks. 99% of my feelings right now revolve around just being happy
nothing worse happened, because it easily could have.
On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 10:07 AM, Marina Kukso <marina.kukso(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
naomi, i'm so sorry that this happened to you, but
like anca, i'm happy
that you were able to get help right away.
- marina
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Wow, Naomi, that really sucks. I'm glad
you're okay, and you got your
iPad.
It's good to hear about Oakland police doing something quickly and
efficiently.
Anca.
On Apr 9, 2013, at 1:55 AM, Naomi Most wrote:
11:45pm at the 20th st bus stop (at Broadway) waiting for the 72M.
So, ah, watch yourselves.
I was transferring my iPad to my backpack when 2 muggers wrenched it out
of my hands and a third one maced me right in the eyes. I mean not just a
little spray, a serious "I mean to blind you" lengthy spray.
An emergency team showed up about 6 minutes after the incident, and the
cops showed up about 8 minutes after. They were very helpful.
One of them asked if I had "Find my Phone" installed, which I did. They
activated it and located the iPad right away. They detained 2 suspects who
were carrying the iPad.
I sat in the back of a cop car as they stood under the light. One
suspect wasn't so clear to me, and I said so -- I wasn't sure. The other
suspect was *definitely* the girl who maced me, so I said so. They let the
guy go and took the girl in. That felt really weird.
I'm going to write this up in more detail on my blog, because my face
feels like it's melting off so I'm not going to be able to sleep anyway.
What a strange experience.
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12:02 p.m.
Wow.
Good to hear that you've come through reasonably well considering the
circumstances.
On Apr 9, 2013 1:55 AM, "Naomi Most" <pnaomi(a)gmail.com> wrote:
11:45pm at the 20th st bus stop (at Broadway) waiting
for the 72M.
So, ah, watch yourselves.
I was transferring my iPad to my backpack when 2 muggers wrenched it out
of my hands and a third one maced me right in the eyes. I mean not just a
little spray, a serious "I mean to blind you" lengthy spray.
An emergency team showed up about 6 minutes after the incident, and the
cops showed up about 8 minutes after. They were very helpful.
One of them asked if I had "Find my Phone" installed, which I did. They
activated it and located the iPad right away. They detained 2 suspects who
were carrying the iPad.
I sat in the back of a cop car as they stood under the light. One suspect
wasn't so clear to me, and I said so -- I wasn't sure. The other suspect
was *definitely* the girl who maced me, so I said so. They let the guy go
and took the girl in. That felt really weird.
I'm going to write this up in more detail on my blog, because my face
feels like it's melting off so I'm not going to be able to sleep anyway.
What a strange experience.
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12:59 p.m.
Yeah, it was a bad thing to have to go through. Sad to hear that it
happened, glad to hear you're OK.
On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 12:02 PM, Anthony Di Franco <di.franco(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
Wow.
Good to hear that you've come through reasonably well considering the
circumstances.
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11:45pm at the 20th st bus stop (at Broadway)
waiting for the 72M.
So, ah, watch yourselves.
I was transferring my iPad to my backpack when 2 muggers wrenched it out
of my hands and a third one maced me right in the eyes. I mean not just a
little spray, a serious "I mean to blind you" lengthy spray.
An emergency team showed up about 6 minutes after the incident, and the
cops showed up about 8 minutes after. They were very helpful.
One of them asked if I had "Find my Phone" installed, which I did. They
activated it and located the iPad right away. They detained 2 suspects who
were carrying the iPad.
I sat in the back of a cop car as they stood under the light. One
suspect wasn't so clear to me, and I said so -- I wasn't sure. The other
suspect was *definitely* the girl who maced me, so I said so. They let the
guy go and took the girl in. That felt really weird.
I'm going to write this up in more detail on my blog, because my face
feels like it's melting off so I'm not going to be able to sleep anyway.
What a strange experience.
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1:39 p.m.
I want to thank all sudoers for not responding to my email with, "FYI that
was pepper spray not mace," which is what some random douches on Twitter
thought it was pertinent to tell me due my using those words
interchangeably, due to having just been pepper sprayed in the face.
Pedants: technically correct. The Best Kind of Correct. *eyeroll*
--Naomi
On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Tony Barreca <tony.barreca(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
Yeah, it was a bad thing to have to go through. Sad
to hear that it
happened, glad to hear you're OK.
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Wow.
Good to hear that you've come through reasonably well considering the
circumstances.
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11:45pm at the 20th st bus stop (at Broadway)
waiting for the 72M.
So, ah, watch yourselves.
I was transferring my iPad to my backpack when 2 muggers wrenched it out
of my hands and a third one maced me right in the eyes. I mean not just a
little spray, a serious "I mean to blind you" lengthy spray.
An emergency team showed up about 6 minutes after the incident, and the
cops showed up about 8 minutes after. They were very helpful.
One of them asked if I had "Find my Phone" installed, which I did. They
activated it and located the iPad right away. They detained 2 suspects who
were carrying the iPad.
I sat in the back of a cop car as they stood under the light. One
suspect wasn't so clear to me, and I said so -- I wasn't sure. The other
suspect was *definitely* the girl who maced me, so I said so. They let the
guy go and took the girl in. That felt really weird.
I'm going to write this up in more detail on my blog, because my face
feels like it's melting off so I'm not going to be able to sleep anyway.
What a strange experience.
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2:22 p.m.
That's awful :( I hope you're doing okay, assaults like that can
definitely be jarring.
If experience from various mass mobilizations & protests gives any
credence, there are some methods to alleviate the burning from pepper
spray. Medics in these situations often carry water bottles to flush
out the eyes of those effected. Basically you just lean your head back
and pour lukewarm water into your eyes to wash away as much of the
harmful chemical as possible.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uppkHUPvO4
That being said, that's usually when there are lots of people there to
help, and you're well prepared.
Bill
On 04/09/2013 01:55 AM, Naomi Most wrote:
11:45pm at the 20th st bus stop (at Broadway) waiting
for the 72M.
So, ah, watch yourselves.
I was transferring my iPad to my backpack when 2 muggers wrenched it out of
my hands and a third one maced me right in the eyes. I mean not just a
little spray, a serious "I mean to blind you" lengthy spray.
An emergency team showed up about 6 minutes after the incident, and the
cops showed up about 8 minutes after. They were very helpful.
One of them asked if I had "Find my Phone" installed, which I did. They
activated it and located the iPad right away. They detained 2 suspects who
were carrying the iPad.
I sat in the back of a cop car as they stood under the light. One suspect
wasn't so clear to me, and I said so -- I wasn't sure. The other suspect
was *definitely* the girl who maced me, so I said so. They let the guy go
and took the girl in. That felt really weird.
I'm going to write this up in more detail on my blog, because my face feels
like it's melting off so I'm not going to be able to sleep anyway.
What a strange experience.
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1:21 a.m.
I finished my blog post about the attack and aftermath.
http://nthmost.com/2013/04/mugged-and-pepper-sprayed-in-downtown-oakland/
On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 2:22 PM, William Budington <bill(a)inputoutput.io>wrote;wrote:
That's awful :( I hope you're doing okay,
assaults like that can
definitely be jarring.
If experience from various mass mobilizations & protests gives any
credence, there are some methods to alleviate the burning from pepper
spray. Medics in these situations often carry water bottles to flush
out the eyes of those effected. Basically you just lean your head back
and pour lukewarm water into your eyes to wash away as much of the
harmful chemical as possible.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uppkHUPvO4
That being said, that's usually when there are lots of people there to
help, and you're well prepared.
Bill
On 04/09/2013 01:55 AM, Naomi Most wrote:
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11:45pm at the 20th st bus stop (at Broadway)
waiting for the 72M.
So, ah, watch yourselves.
I was transferring my iPad to my backpack when 2 muggers wrenched it out
of
my hands and a third one maced me right in the
eyes. I mean not just a
little spray, a serious "I mean to blind you" lengthy spray.
An emergency team showed up about 6 minutes after the incident, and the
cops showed up about 8 minutes after. They were very helpful.
One of them asked if I had "Find my Phone" installed, which I did. They
activated it and located the iPad right away. They detained 2 suspects
who
were carrying the iPad.
I sat in the back of a cop car as they stood under the light. One
suspect
wasn't so clear to me, and I said so -- I
wasn't sure. The other suspect
was *definitely* the girl who maced me, so I said so. They let the guy
go
and took the girl in. That felt really weird.
I'm going to write this up in more detail on my blog, because my face
feels
like it's melting off so I'm not going to
be able to sleep anyway.
What a strange experience.
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1:54 a.m.
Great blog post, Naomi. It conveys a strong sense of resolve and power
in dealing with the jerks who mugged you, and with the aftermath.
What surprised me is that there were three of them acting together, and
the one who sprayed you appeared after the first two ran off. That's
organized activity, not casual opportunistic crime. It would be
interesting to see if any security videos emerge in the case, showing
them hanging out around the bus stop before they jumped you.
Probably the end result will be that they implicate each other, and all
end up doing well-deserved time. Probably also, one of them will be
found with a bunch of other stolen mobile devices, so your action will
end up solving other cases as well. BTW, three people acting together
to commit a felony, can also be prosecuted for felony conspiracy.
Do you want other SudoRoom members to go to any of the various hearings
and trial dates, for community support?
-G.
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On 13-04-10-Wed 1:21 AM, Naomi Most wrote:
I finished my blog post about the attack and
aftermath.
http://nthmost.com/2013/04/mugged-and-pepper-sprayed-in-downtown-oakland/
On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 2:22 PM, William Budington <bill(a)inputoutput.io
<mailto:bill@inputoutput.io>> wrote:
That's awful :( I hope you're doing okay, assaults like that can
definitely be jarring.
If experience from various mass mobilizations & protests gives any
credence, there are some methods to alleviate the burning from pepper
spray. Medics in these situations often carry water bottles to flush
out the eyes of those effected. Basically you just lean your head
back
and pour lukewarm water into your eyes to wash away as much of the
harmful chemical as possible.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uppkHUPvO4
That being said, that's usually when there are lots of people there to
help, and you're well prepared.
Bill
On 04/09/2013 01:55 AM, Naomi Most wrote:
11:45pm at the 20th st bus stop (at Broadway)
waiting for the 72M.
So, ah, watch yourselves.
I was transferring my iPad to my backpack when 2 muggers
wrenched it out of
my hands and a third one maced me right in the
eyes. I mean not
just a
little spray, a serious "I mean to blind
you" lengthy spray.
An emergency team showed up about 6 minutes after the incident,
and the
cops showed up about 8 minutes after. They were
very helpful.
One of them asked if I had "Find my Phone" installed, which I
did.
They
activated it and located the iPad right away.
They detained 2
suspects who
were carrying the iPad.
I sat in the back of a cop car as they stood under the light.
One suspect
wasn't so clear to me, and I said so -- I
wasn't sure. The other
suspect
was *definitely* the girl who maced me, so I said
so. They let
the guy go
and took the girl in. That felt really weird.
I'm going to write this up in more detail on my blog, because my
face
feels
like it's melting off so I'm not going to
be able to sleep anyway.
What a strange experience.
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10:04 a.m.
Great blog post Naomi and really sorry to hear that you experienced an
attack in Oakland. Thank goodness you weren't more badly hurt!
I'm still blown away by how, in your case, technology was so empowering and
helped find the perpetrators so incredibly quickly. Your forward thinking
on installing the tracking app made a huge difference (you've made me
personally realize how important these apps are and I'm going to install
one on my phone too now, just in case!).
We're a community, not just in Sudo room but outside of it too, so if I (or
I'm sure many of our fellow sudo'ers) can ever help let me/us know.
R
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 1:54 AM, Anon195714 <anon195714(a)sbcglobal.net>wrote;wrote:
Great blog post, Naomi. It conveys a strong sense of resolve and power in
dealing with the jerks who mugged you, and with the aftermath.
What surprised me is that there were three of them acting together, and
the one who sprayed you appeared after the first two ran off. That's
organized activity, not casual opportunistic crime. It would be
interesting to see if any security videos emerge in the case, showing them
hanging out around the bus stop before they jumped you.
Probably the end result will be that they implicate each other, and all
end up doing well-deserved time. Probably also, one of them will be found
with a bunch of other stolen mobile devices, so your action will end up
solving other cases as well. BTW, three people acting together to commit a
felony, can also be prosecuted for felony conspiracy.
Do you want other SudoRoom members to go to any of the various hearings
and trial dates, for community support?
-G.
=====
On 13-04-10-Wed 1:21 AM, Naomi Most wrote:
I finished my blog post about the attack and aftermath.
http://nthmost.com/2013/04/mugged-and-pepper-sprayed-in-downtown-oakland/
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That's awful :( I hope you're doing
okay, assaults like that can
definitely be jarring.
If experience from various mass mobilizations & protests gives any
credence, there are some methods to alleviate the burning from pepper
spray. Medics in these situations often carry water bottles to flush
out the eyes of those effected. Basically you just lean your head back
and pour lukewarm water into your eyes to wash away as much of the
harmful chemical as possible.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uppkHUPvO4
That being said, that's usually when there are lots of people there to
help, and you're well prepared.
Bill
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11:45pm at the 20th st bus stop (at Broadway)
waiting for the 72M.
So, ah, watch yourselves.
I was transferring my iPad to my backpack when 2 muggers wrenched it
out of
my hands and a third one maced me right in the
eyes. I mean not just a
little spray, a serious "I mean to blind you" lengthy spray.
An emergency team showed up about 6 minutes after the incident, and the
cops showed up about 8 minutes after. They were very helpful.
One of them asked if I had "Find my Phone" installed, which I did. They
activated it and located the iPad right away. They detained 2 suspects
who
were carrying the iPad.
I sat in the back of a cop car as they stood under the light. One
suspect
wasn't so clear to me, and I said so -- I
wasn't sure. The other suspect
was *definitely* the girl who maced me, so I said so. They let the guy
go
and took the girl in. That felt really weird.
I'm going to write this up in more detail on my blog, because my face
feels
like it's melting off so I'm not going to
be able to sleep anyway.
What a strange experience.
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22 Apr
4:59 p.m.
Regarding this incident, I just received a subpoena to appear in court in
Oakland this Thursday.
If anybody has any experience with testifying in court about a crime
(especially in Oakland or the Bay Area in general), I'd appreciate hearing
anecdotes.
Cheers,
Naomi
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 10:04 AM, Ryan Bethencourt <
ryan.bethencourt(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Great blog post Naomi and really sorry to hear that
you experienced an
attack in Oakland. Thank goodness you weren't more badly hurt!
I'm still blown away by how, in your case, technology was so empowering
and helped find the perpetrators so incredibly quickly. Your forward
thinking on installing the tracking app made a huge difference (you've made
me personally realize how important these apps are and I'm going to install
one on my phone too now, just in case!).
We're a community, not just in Sudo room but outside of it too, so if I
(or I'm sure many of our fellow sudo'ers) can ever help let me/us know.
R
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 1:54 AM, Georgio510 <georgio510(a)sbcglobal.net>wrote;wrote:
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Great blog post, Naomi. It conveys a strong sense of resolve and power
in dealing with the jerks who mugged you, and with the aftermath.
What surprised me is that there were three of them acting together, and
the one who sprayed you appeared after the first two ran off. That's
organized activity, not casual opportunistic crime. It would be
interesting to see if any security videos emerge in the case, showing them
hanging out around the bus stop before they jumped you.
Probably the end result will be that they implicate each other, and all
end up doing well-deserved time. Probably also, one of them will be found
with a bunch of other stolen mobile devices, so your action will end up
solving other cases as well. BTW, three people acting together to commit a
felony, can also be prosecuted for felony conspiracy.
Do you want other SudoRoom members to go to any of the various hearings
and trial dates, for community support?
-G.
=====
On 13-04-10-Wed 1:21 AM, Naomi Most wrote:
I finished my blog post about the attack and aftermath.
http://nthmost.com/2013/04/mugged-and-pepper-sprayed-in-downtown-oakland/
On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 2:22 PM, William Budington <bill(a)inputoutput.io>wrote;wrote:
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That's awful :( I hope you're doing
okay, assaults like that can
definitely be jarring.
If experience from various mass mobilizations & protests gives any
credence, there are some methods to alleviate the burning from pepper
spray. Medics in these situations often carry water bottles to flush
out the eyes of those effected. Basically you just lean your head back
and pour lukewarm water into your eyes to wash away as much of the
harmful chemical as possible.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uppkHUPvO4
That being said, that's usually when there are lots of people there to
help, and you're well prepared.
Bill
On 04/09/2013 01:55 AM, Naomi Most wrote:
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11:45pm at the 20th st bus stop (at Broadway)
waiting for the 72M.
So, ah, watch yourselves.
I was transferring my iPad to my backpack when 2 muggers wrenched it
out of
my hands and a third one maced me right in the
eyes. I mean not just a
little spray, a serious "I mean to blind you" lengthy spray.
An emergency team showed up about 6 minutes after the incident, and the
cops showed up about 8 minutes after. They were very helpful.
One of them asked if I had "Find my Phone" installed, which I did.
They
activated it and located the iPad right away.
They detained 2
suspects who
were carrying the iPad.
I sat in the back of a cop car as they stood under the light. One
suspect
wasn't so clear to me, and I said so -- I
wasn't sure. The other
suspect
was *definitely* the girl who maced me, so I said
so. They let the
guy go
and took the girl in. That felt really weird.
I'm going to write this up in more detail on my blog, because my face
feels
like it's melting off so I'm not going to
be able to sleep anyway.
What a strange experience.
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5:31 p.m.
The DA will probably contact you to tell you what to do. Otherwise
it's just a lot of waiting.
On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 4:59 PM, Naomi Most <pnaomi(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Regarding this incident, I just received a subpoena to
appear in court in
Oakland this Thursday.
If anybody has any experience with testifying in court about a crime
(especially in Oakland or the Bay Area in general), I'd appreciate hearing
anecdotes.
Cheers,
Naomi
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 10:04 AM, Ryan Bethencourt
<ryan.bethencourt(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Great blog post Naomi and really sorry to hear that you experienced an
attack in Oakland. Thank goodness you weren't more badly hurt!
I'm still blown away by how, in your case, technology was so empowering
and helped find the perpetrators so incredibly quickly. Your forward
thinking on installing the tracking app made a huge difference (you've made
me personally realize how important these apps are and I'm going to install
one on my phone too now, just in case!).
We're a community, not just in Sudo room but outside of it too, so if I
(or I'm sure many of our fellow sudo'ers) can ever help let me/us know.
R
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 1:54 AM, Georgio510 <georgio510(a)sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
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skype: nthmost
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Great blog post, Naomi. It conveys a strong sense of resolve and power
in dealing with the jerks who mugged you, and with the aftermath.
What surprised me is that there were three of them acting together, and
the one who sprayed you appeared after the first two ran off. That's
organized activity, not casual opportunistic crime. It would be interesting
to see if any security videos emerge in the case, showing them hanging out
around the bus stop before they jumped you.
Probably the end result will be that they implicate each other, and all
end up doing well-deserved time. Probably also, one of them will be found
with a bunch of other stolen mobile devices, so your action will end up
solving other cases as well. BTW, three people acting together to commit a
felony, can also be prosecuted for felony conspiracy.
Do you want other SudoRoom members to go to any of the various hearings
and trial dates, for community support?
-G.
=====
On 13-04-10-Wed 1:21 AM, Naomi Most wrote:
I finished my blog post about the attack and aftermath.
http://nthmost.com/2013/04/mugged-and-pepper-sprayed-in-downtown-oakland/
On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 2:22 PM, William Budington <bill(a)inputoutput.io>
wrote:
--
Ryan Bethencourt
Tel: (415) 794 6463
ryan.bethencourt(a)gmail.com
www.bamh1.com
www.linkedin.com/in/bethencourt
www.logos-press.com/books/biotechnology_business_development.php
That's awful :( I hope you're doing okay, assaults like that can
definitely be jarring.
If experience from various mass mobilizations & protests gives any
credence, there are some methods to alleviate the burning from pepper
spray. Medics in these situations often carry water bottles to flush
out the eyes of those effected. Basically you just lean your head back
and pour lukewarm water into your eyes to wash away as much of the
harmful chemical as possible.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uppkHUPvO4
That being said, that's usually when there are lots of people there to
help, and you're well prepared.
Bill
On 04/09/2013 01:55 AM, Naomi Most wrote:
> 11:45pm at the 20th st bus stop (at Broadway) waiting for the 72M.
>
> So, ah, watch yourselves.
>
> I was transferring my iPad to my backpack when 2 muggers wrenched it
> out of
> my hands and a third one maced me right in the eyes. I mean not just
> a
> little spray, a serious "I mean to blind you" lengthy spray.
>
> An emergency team showed up about 6 minutes after the incident, and
> the
> cops showed up about 8 minutes after. They were very helpful.
>
> One of them asked if I had "Find my Phone" installed, which I did.
> They
> activated it and located the iPad right away. They detained 2
> suspects who
> were carrying the iPad.
>
> I sat in the back of a cop car as they stood under the light. One
> suspect
> wasn't so clear to me, and I said so -- I wasn't sure. The other
> suspect
> was *definitely* the girl who maced me, so I said so. They let the
> guy go
> and took the girl in. That felt really weird.
>
> I'm going to write this up in more detail on my blog, because my face
> feels
> like it's melting off so I'm not going to be able to sleep anyway.
>
> What a strange experience.
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sudo-discuss mailing list
> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org
> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss
>
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23 Apr
23 Apr
12:03 a.m.
Go get em, le tigre!
Raymond Lai
Ice Cream Man
Atomic Ice Cream
Facebook.com/MotoAtomico
On Apr 22, 2013, at 5:31 PM, Sonja Trauss <sonja.trauss(a)gmail.com> wrote:
The DA will probably contact you to tell you what to
do. Otherwise
it's just a lot of waiting.
On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 4:59 PM, Naomi Most <pnaomi(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Regarding this incident, I just received a
subpoena to appear in court in
Oakland this Thursday.
If anybody has any experience with testifying in court about a crime
(especially in Oakland or the Bay Area in general), I'd appreciate hearing
anecdotes.
Cheers,
Naomi
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 10:04 AM, Ryan Bethencourt
<ryan.bethencourt(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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Great blog post Naomi and really sorry to hear that you experienced an
attack in Oakland. Thank goodness you weren't more badly hurt!
I'm still blown away by how, in your case, technology was so empowering
and helped find the perpetrators so incredibly quickly. Your forward
thinking on installing the tracking app made a huge difference (you've made
me personally realize how important these apps are and I'm going to install
one on my phone too now, just in case!).
We're a community, not just in Sudo room but outside of it too, so if I
(or I'm sure many of our fellow sudo'ers) can ever help let me/us know.
R
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 1:54 AM, Georgio510 <georgio510(a)sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
--
Naomi Theora Most
naomi(a)nthmost.com
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skype: nthmost
http://twitter.com/nthmost
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Great blog post, Naomi. It conveys a strong sense of resolve and power
in dealing with the jerks who mugged you, and with the aftermath.
What surprised me is that there were three of them acting together, and
the one who sprayed you appeared after the first two ran off. That's
organized activity, not casual opportunistic crime. It would be interesting
to see if any security videos emerge in the case, showing them hanging out
around the bus stop before they jumped you.
Probably the end result will be that they implicate each other, and all
end up doing well-deserved time. Probably also, one of them will be found
with a bunch of other stolen mobile devices, so your action will end up
solving other cases as well. BTW, three people acting together to commit a
felony, can also be prosecuted for felony conspiracy.
Do you want other SudoRoom members to go to any of the various hearings
and trial dates, for community support?
-G.
=====
On 13-04-10-Wed 1:21 AM, Naomi Most wrote:
I finished my blog post about the attack and aftermath.
http://nthmost.com/2013/04/mugged-and-pepper-sprayed-in-downtown-oakland/
On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 2:22 PM, William Budington <bill(a)inputoutput.io>
wrote:
>
> That's awful :( I hope you're doing okay, assaults like that can
> definitely be jarring.
>
> If experience from various mass mobilizations & protests gives any
> credence, there are some methods to alleviate the burning from pepper
> spray. Medics in these situations often carry water bottles to flush
> out the eyes of those effected. Basically you just lean your head back
> and pour lukewarm water into your eyes to wash away as much of the
> harmful chemical as possible.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uppkHUPvO4
>
> That being said, that's usually when there are lots of people there to
> help, and you're well prepared.
>
> Bill
>
> On 04/09/2013 01:55 AM, Naomi Most wrote:
>> 11:45pm at the 20th st bus stop (at Broadway) waiting for the 72M.
>>
>> So, ah, watch yourselves.
>>
>> I was transferring my iPad to my backpack when 2 muggers wrenched it
>> out of
>> my hands and a third one maced me right in the eyes. I mean not just
>> a
>> little spray, a serious "I mean to blind you" lengthy spray.
>>
>> An emergency team showed up about 6 minutes after the incident, and
>> the
>> cops showed up about 8 minutes after. They were very helpful.
>>
>> One of them asked if I had "Find my Phone" installed, which I did.
>> They
>> activated it and located the iPad right away. They detained 2
>> suspects who
>> were carrying the iPad.
>>
>> I sat in the back of a cop car as they stood under the light. One
>> suspect
>> wasn't so clear to me, and I said so -- I wasn't sure. The other
>> suspect
>> was *definitely* the girl who maced me, so I said so. They let the
>> guy go
>> and took the girl in. That felt really weird.
>>
>> I'm going to write this up in more detail on my blog, because my face
>> feels
>> like it's melting off so I'm not going to be able to sleep anyway.
>>
>> What a strange experience.
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> sudo-discuss mailing list
>> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org
>> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss
>>
>
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www.bamh1.com
www.linkedin.com/in/bethencourt
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12:31 p.m.
Yeah I am not looking forward to it. :p
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 12:03 AM, Ray Lai <raymond.wm.lai(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Go get em, le tigre!
Raymond Lai
Ice Cream Man
Atomic Ice Cream
Facebook.com/MotoAtomico
On Apr 22, 2013, at 5:31 PM, Sonja Trauss <sonja.trauss(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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skype: nthmost
http://twitter.com/nthmost
The DA will probably contact you to tell you what
to do. Otherwise
it's just a lot of waiting.
On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 4:59 PM, Naomi Most <pnaomi(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Regarding this incident, I just received a subpoena to appear in court
in
> Oakland this Thursday.
>
> If anybody has any experience with testifying in court about a crime
> (especially in Oakland or the Bay Area in general), I'd appreciate
hearing
> anecdotes.
>
> Cheers,
> Naomi
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 10:04 AM, Ryan Bethencourt
> <ryan.bethencourt(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Great blog post Naomi and really sorry to hear that you experienced an
>> attack in Oakland. Thank goodness you weren't more badly hurt!
>>
>> I'm still blown away by how, in your case, technology was so empowering
>> and helped find the perpetrators so incredibly quickly. Your forward
>> thinking on installing the tracking app made a huge difference (you've
made
>> me personally realize how important these
apps are and I'm going to
install
>> one on my phone too now, just in case!).
>>
>> We're a community, not just in Sudo room but outside of it too, so if I
>> (or I'm sure many of our fellow sudo'ers) can ever help let me/us know.
>>
>> R
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 1:54 AM, Georgio510 <georgio510(a)sbcglobal.net>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Great blog post, Naomi. It conveys a strong sense of resolve and
power
>>> in dealing with the jerks who mugged
you, and with the aftermath.
>>>
>>> What surprised me is that there were three of them acting together,
and
>>> the one who sprayed you appeared
after the first two ran off. That's
>>> organized activity, not casual opportunistic crime. It would be
interesting
>>> to see if any security videos emerge
in the case, showing them
hanging out
>>> around the bus stop before they
jumped you.
>>>
>>> Probably the end result will be that they implicate each other, and
all
>>> end up doing well-deserved time.
Probably also, one of them will be
found
>>> with a bunch of other stolen mobile
devices, so your action will end
up
>>> solving other cases as well. BTW,
three people acting together to
commit a
>>> felony, can also be prosecuted for
felony conspiracy.
>>>
>>> Do you want other SudoRoom members to go to any of the various
hearings
>>> and trial dates, for community
support?
>>>
>>> -G.
>>>
>>> =====
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 13-04-10-Wed 1:21 AM, Naomi Most wrote:
>>>
>>> I finished my blog post about the attack and aftermath.
>>>
>>>
http://nthmost.com/2013/04/mugged-and-pepper-sprayed-in-downtown-oakland/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 2:22 PM, William Budington <
bill(a)inputoutput.io>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> That's awful :( I hope you're doing okay, assaults like that
can
>>>> definitely be jarring.
>>>>
>>>> If experience from various mass mobilizations & protests gives any
>>>> credence, there are some methods to alleviate the burning from pepper
>>>> spray. Medics in these situations often carry water bottles to flush
>>>> out the eyes of those effected. Basically you just lean your head
back
>>>> and pour lukewarm water into your
eyes to wash away as much of the
>>>> harmful chemical as possible.
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uppkHUPvO4
>>>>
>>>> That being said, that's usually when there are lots of people there
to
>>>> help, and you're well
prepared.
>>>>
>>>> Bill
>>>>
>>>> On 04/09/2013 01:55 AM, Naomi Most wrote:
>>>>> 11:45pm at the 20th st bus stop (at Broadway) waiting for the 72M.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, ah, watch yourselves.
>>>>>
>>>>> I was transferring my iPad to my backpack when 2 muggers wrenched it
>>>>> out of
>>>>> my hands and a third one maced me right in the eyes. I mean not
just
>>>>> a
>>>>> little spray, a serious "I mean to blind you" lengthy
spray.
>>>>>
>>>>> An emergency team showed up about 6 minutes after the incident, and
>>>>> the
>>>>> cops showed up about 8 minutes after. They were very helpful.
>>>>>
>>>>> One of them asked if I had "Find my Phone" installed, which
I did.
>>>>> They
>>>>> activated it and located the iPad right away. They detained 2
>>>>> suspects who
>>>>> were carrying the iPad.
>>>>>
>>>>> I sat in the back of a cop car as they stood under the light. One
>>>>> suspect
>>>>> wasn't so clear to me, and I said so -- I wasn't sure. The
other
>>>>> suspect
>>>>> was *definitely* the girl who maced me, so I said so. They let the
>>>>> guy go
>>>>> and took the girl in. That felt really weird.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm going to write this up in more detail on my blog, because my
face
>>> feels
>>> like it's melting off so I'm not going to be able to sleep anyway.
>>>
>>> What a strange experience.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> sudo-discuss mailing list
>>> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org
>>> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss
>>>
>>
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>
>
>
>
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>
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>
> http://twitter.com/nthmost
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>
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>
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4:05 p.m.
We will celebrate the vanquishing of monsters with a beer and a vegan sausage!
Raymond Lai
Ice Cream Man
Atomic Ice Cream
Facebook.com/MotoAtomico
On Apr 23, 2013, at 12:31 PM, Naomi Most <pnaomi(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Yeah I am not looking forward to it. :p
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 12:03 AM, Ray Lai <raymond.wm.lai(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Go get em, le tigre!
Raymond Lai
Ice Cream Man
Atomic Ice Cream
Facebook.com/MotoAtomico
On Apr 22, 2013, at 5:31 PM, Sonja Trauss <sonja.trauss(a)gmail.com> wrote:
The DA will probably contact you to tell you what
to do. Otherwise
it's just a lot of waiting.
On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 4:59 PM, Naomi Most <pnaomi(a)gmail.com> wrote:
--
Naomi Theora Most
naomi(a)nthmost.com
+1-415-728-7490
skype: nthmost
http://twitter.com/nthmost Regarding this incident, I just received a
subpoena to appear in court in
Oakland this Thursday.
If anybody has any experience with testifying in court about a crime
(especially in Oakland or the Bay Area in general), I'd appreciate hearing
anecdotes.
Cheers,
Naomi
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 10:04 AM, Ryan Bethencourt
<ryan.bethencourt(a)gmail.com> wrote:
_______________________________________________
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Great blog post Naomi and really sorry to hear that you experienced an
attack in Oakland. Thank goodness you weren't more badly hurt!
I'm still blown away by how, in your case, technology was so empowering
and helped find the perpetrators so incredibly quickly. Your forward
thinking on installing the tracking app made a huge difference (you've made
me personally realize how important these apps are and I'm going to install
one on my phone too now, just in case!).
We're a community, not just in Sudo room but outside of it too, so if I
(or I'm sure many of our fellow sudo'ers) can ever help let me/us know.
R
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 1:54 AM, Georgio510 <georgio510(a)sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
>
>
> Great blog post, Naomi. It conveys a strong sense of resolve and power
> in dealing with the jerks who mugged you, and with the aftermath.
>
> What surprised me is that there were three of them acting together, and
> the one who sprayed you appeared after the first two ran off. That's
> organized activity, not casual opportunistic crime. It would be interesting
> to see if any security videos emerge in the case, showing them hanging out
> around the bus stop before they jumped you.
>
> Probably the end result will be that they implicate each other, and all
> end up doing well-deserved time. Probably also, one of them will be found
> with a bunch of other stolen mobile devices, so your action will end up
> solving other cases as well. BTW, three people acting together to commit a
> felony, can also be prosecuted for felony conspiracy.
>
> Do you want other SudoRoom members to go to any of the various hearings
> and trial dates, for community support?
>
> -G.
>
> =====
>
>
>
> On 13-04-10-Wed 1:21 AM, Naomi Most wrote:
>
> I finished my blog post about the attack and aftermath.
>
> http://nthmost.com/2013/04/mugged-and-pepper-sprayed-in-downtown-oakland/
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 2:22 PM, William Budington <bill(a)inputoutput.io>
> wrote:
>>
>> That's awful :( I hope you're doing okay, assaults like that can
>> definitely be jarring.
>>
>> If experience from various mass mobilizations & protests gives any
>> credence, there are some methods to alleviate the burning from pepper
>> spray. Medics in these situations often carry water bottles to flush
>> out the eyes of those effected. Basically you just lean your head back
>> and pour lukewarm water into your eyes to wash away as much of the
>> harmful chemical as possible.
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uppkHUPvO4
>>
>> That being said, that's usually when there are lots of people there to
>> help, and you're well prepared.
>>
>> Bill
>>
>> On 04/09/2013 01:55 AM, Naomi Most wrote:
>>> 11:45pm at the 20th st bus stop (at Broadway) waiting for the 72M.
>>>
>>> So, ah, watch yourselves.
>>>
>>> I was transferring my iPad to my backpack when 2 muggers wrenched it
>>> out of
>>> my hands and a third one maced me right in the eyes. I mean not just
>>> a
>>> little spray, a serious "I mean to blind you" lengthy spray.
>>>
>>> An emergency team showed up about 6 minutes after the incident, and
>>> the
>>> cops showed up about 8 minutes after. They were very helpful.
>>>
>>> One of them asked if I had "Find my Phone" installed, which I did.
>>> They
>>> activated it and located the iPad right away. They detained 2
>>> suspects who
>>> were carrying the iPad.
>>>
>>> I sat in the back of a cop car as they stood under the light. One
>>> suspect
>>> wasn't so clear to me, and I said so -- I wasn't sure. The other
>>> suspect
>>> was *definitely* the girl who maced me, so I said so. They let the
>>> guy go
>>> and took the girl in. That felt really weird.
>>>
>>> I'm going to write this up in more detail on my blog, because my face
>>> feels
>>> like it's melting off so I'm not going to be able to sleep anyway.
>>>
>>> What a strange experience.
>>>
>>>
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