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Call for Auction Items!!! Help Fund sudo!

by Rachel Wolfsohn

sudo-ers of all realms! This is a call for auction items! Sudo's May-Day Fundraiser Party & Potluck will have an auction component Whether you have something uber useful, or something minimally prize-like or an odd or end that could be someone's treasure or a ridiculously rare thing-a-ma-bob if you're willing or able to let it go, let's auction it off to fund sudo! *~~this will be a silent auction* *~~you do not have to attend the party to participate in the auction* To Auction An Item: Please send rachel a brief description with as much of the following info as you can: *Item Name/Info*:* *Est. Value*: * *Minimum Value:* *Special Details/Extras/Upgrades*:* *Additional History and/or Use(s): * (this last bit is for fun and learning!) Yay sudo! -- <3 Rachel

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Arduino Bootloader on the ESP8266

by Adam Munich

Someone managed to cram the arduino bootloader on the ESP8266 https://makezine.com/2015/04/01/esp8266-5-microcontroller-wi-fi-now-arduino… Yup. $3 wifi arduino. $1.50 in aliexpress bulk. So who's going to wifi-mesh all of oakland? --- Aperture Systems: Redefining Radiography - http://aperture.systems/ http://adammunich.com/ - Cell: +1-650-452-0554 Be • knowledgeable • social • patient • fearless • compassionate • fun • humble • forgiving. Be a leader

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major purge of machine tools, hand tools, necessary and unnecessary stuff - Saturday 10 to 4 (fwd)

by Jake

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/gms/4970294855.html Unused & used wrenches by: Snap-On, Armstrong, Proto, Fairmount, Bonney Thin Pattern Hydraulic Wrenches up to 2 1/4" 12-Point Flare Nut Wrenches up to 1 3/16" Crows Foot Wrenches (12-Point and standard) up to 2 1/4" Maggi Junior 640 Radial Arm Saw 4 h.p. (220v/3ph) J & L Optical Comparator TC-10 with multiple stages Sunnen Honing Machine MBH-625D Avey Sensitive Drill Press Model #1/2 Heavy MA-8 (220v/3ph) Omni Grind 6x12 surface grinder (220v/3ph) Variable Frequency Drives (AC Tech, MC Series) Gorton Pantograph Roll Engraving Attachments (750-1 & 727-1) Gorton Tool & Cutter Grinder (265-6) Gorton Pantograph Spindle Gorton Collets Machine collets Dumore Drill Grinder (model 8192) with 90 bushings in wooden case Sensitive Gang Drill Buffing motors Niagara circle cutter (68" swing) Buffalo Forge No. 8 Angle & Tee Cutter Simpson Strong Tie components New Light Switches New Plugs & Receptacles New Cover Plates New Electrical boxes New Conduit fittings 4" & 6" Ceiling Cans Fused machine safety switches Hydraulic fittings Pipe fittings Scientific glassware Motors: 5 H.P. 220v/3ph unused 3 H.P. 180v DC plus others Free stuff & odd stuff From: David Cole <david(a)run-stop.com> Date: April 8, 2015 at 7:50:23 PM PDT Subject: major purge of machine tools, hand tools, necessary and unnecessary stuff - Saturday 10 to 4 I moved 60,000 pounds of equipment from Detroit several years ago and it’s finally time to get rid of some of it. Everything is priced to move and some stuff is free. Saturday 10-4 at my studio: 4126 Martin Luther King, Jr. Way, Oakland. Please pass this along to anyone who may be interested craigslist post: http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/gms/4970294855.html I hope to see you there, David Cole

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FW: The White House Announces a Week of Making this June 12-18

by Mitch Altman

Does someone at Noisebridge and/or Sudo Room want to be part of the National Week of Making? If so, there's a link at the bottom of the email from the White House (copied below), but which I'll add here, too: https://www.whitehouse.gov/nation-of-makers I think it would be really cool to be "officially" involved. But there are two things that make me uncomfortable: 1) "STEM" is a term created by the US military -- it leaves out the very important "A", which many have added to make it more relevant, and moves things away from the military: STEAM 2) There is involvement from various government agencies, many of which are cool, but one of which is: Department of Homeland Security. Best, Mitch. -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: The White House Announces a Week of Making this June 12-18 Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2015 17:07:12 +0000 From: Santoso, Stephanie <Stephanie_M_Santoso(a)ostp.eop.gov> To: Mitch Altman Hi All, I wanted to make sure that you saw the following exciting news about the Week of Making and the National Maker Faire! Announcing a Week of Making this June 12-18 By Tom Kalil and Stephanie Santoso Last year, on June 18, President Obama hosted the first-ever White House Maker Faire and issued a call to action that “every company, every college, every community, every citizen joins us as we lift up makers and builders and doers across the country.” By democratizing the tools and skills necessary to design and make just about anything, Maker-related events and activities can inspire more people to pursue careers in design, advanced manufacturing, and the related fields of science, technology, engineering and mathematics (STEM) and possibly take their creations to the next level and become entrepreneurs. Today, in preparation of the one-year anniversary of last year’s Faire, we are excited to announce that the White House will celebrate a “Week of Making” this summer from June 12-18. The Week will coincide with the National Maker Faire here in D.C., featuring makers from across the country and will include participation by federal agencies including: the Department of Education, National Science Foundation, U.S. Agency for International Development, U.S. Small Business Administration, Institute of Museum and Library Services, National Institute of Standards and Technology, NASA, Corporation for National and Community Service, Department of Homeland Security and the Smithsonian. At last year’s Faire, President Obama welcomed people of all ages who are funneling their ingenuity into amazing projects, developing creative solutions to important problems and bringing their innovations to market. He met Lindsay Lawlor, who built a 17-foot, talking robotic giraffe named Russell, and he met teenage sisters Camille and Genevieve Betty, whose motto is “Who needs a paper route when you can start your own robotics company?” He talked to entrepreneurs such as Marc Roth, who was homeless in San Francisco before taking classes in design and prototyping at a digital fabrication studio and maker space. After only several months of classes, Marc was able to open his own custom laser-cutting business. As the President put it, “Today’s D.I.Y is tomorrow’s Made in America.” Lindsay Lawlor introduces President Obama to Russell, the Electric Giraffe at last year’s White House Maker Faire. (Photo Credit: Pete Souza). The President announced a large number of commitments made by the Federal government, mayors, educational institutions, companies, and non-profit organizations to expand opportunities for engaging students STEM through making, supporting makers who want to become entrepreneurs and make it easier for individuals to learn 21st century design and fabrication skills around the country. Twenty-one Federal agencies committed a suite of services for people interested in engineering and manufacturing, including expanded access to start-up grants, making it easier for makers to manufacture their products domestically, and business mentoring and training. More than 150 colleges and universities, over 125 libraries and more than 90 mayors pledged to take steps to help advance making in the United States. To continue to expand upon this effort, here are some ways that you or your organization can help: · Individuals can volunteer to mentor and share their skills by hosting workshops or classes in areas of their community that have fewer opportunities for designing, developing and prototyping projects. · K-12 school districts can create opportunities for interactive, hands-on STEM learning in and outside of the classroom. Schools can also establish maker spaces to empower students to design and build, and solve real-world problems. · Colleges and universities can establish on-campus spaces that are accessible to students, faculty and the broader local community to tinker, design, build and invent. They can share best practices with other educational institutions through networks and communities of practice. · Companies can encourage making in their community through design and engineering and help designers, inventors and other aspiring entrepreneurs create American jobs by navigating the transition from prototyping to manufacturing. · Mayors can join the Mayors Maker Challenge and encourage companies, foundations, non-profits, schools, libraries and museums to get involved with product development and manufacturing. Local leaders can also back initiatives that make it easier for entrepreneurs to manufacture their products locally. And no matter who you are, you can get involved by hosting an event, workshop or activity during the Week of Making in your community or submit your project for the National Maker Faire. By working together, we can provide every child and adult in America with the tools, technologies and resources they need to be part of the creative process and invent, create, and make a better, stronger, and more innovative future. If you or your organization has plans to support students, inventors, designers, builders and other makers in your community, let us know by completing this form. We look forward to announcing progress on the President’s call to action during the Week of Making. You may also contact us at maker(a)ostp.gov. Tom Kalil is Deputy Director for Technology and Innovation at the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy. Stephanie Santoso is Senior Advisor for Making at the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy. Stephanie Santoso Senior Policy Advisor for Making White House Office of Science and Technology Policy ssantoso(a)ostp.eop.gov

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by Oakland Business Recognition

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4/8 Meeting Notes

by Jenny Ryan

Recorded for posterity at: https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Meeting_Notes_2015-04-08 Sudoroom Meeting April 8, 2015 =Intros= * remote-jenny * ryan * juul * wrought * st. nic * rachel * elliot Icebreaker: What have you broken recently? (the question is also broken) * Juul: I broke a server. It was bad. :) * Adam: I broke my self confidence again **ryan: aw * ryan: i managed to break one of the childproof pill bottle, apparently if you break them, they're not childproof anymore :) * rachel: i broke a cup. but there are other cups * remote-jenny: i broke up a shitton of great potting soil this morning and dumped it in a garden bed :)) * Matt: my patience is broken * Sean F: the last thing i remember breaking was a my lock, i lost my key and i had to break it to get into my backpack * elliot: i broke a nail :) that hurt :( * jebari (opal): probably the last thing i broke was a promise, i know that's kinda vague, but... **ryan: i was waiting for someone to say it * joel (late arrival): I broke the external battery charger for my cell phone * ben (late arrival): =Announcements= ? = Conflict updates = ==Rayc== * Ryan (mediator between rayc): rayc has not contacted Ryan. ==Nic== *Elliot does not want to share space with him, non-engagement with st.nic, would like the SSP to be enforced w/ the language he's used and people he's hurt in the space * juul: you are willing to do mediation as long as you don't have to meet with him in person? * elliot: yes, and with the temporary band that that mediation is done offsite, * matt: both people off-site? * elliot: it's my understandin that he's banned pending mediation * matt: it's not ambiguous, it's exactly what's happening, they're banned during mediation * rachel: here here ==Doc== *Rachel: Doc has not contacted and did not show up last time, but I was 15m late, though I notified people. I think it's worth calling, but the longer the more time there is to process and grow before going through with mediation. I will call again *elliot..... *matt: i think this is heresay and we should discuss it at the appropriate time *rachel: agreed *juul: okay * Does Doc have a Conflict Steward? We really need to have both roles filled. The Steward ensures conflict mediation meetings happen and that they're documented, and helps give updates * Not yet, does anyone volunteer? ==Darin and Elliot== * Joe from FnB is mediating (this is not a sudo conflict). * Who is conflict steward? Helen? ==Kwe and Darin== * not a sudo conflict * juul is mediating * matt is conflict steward =Finances= * $461.10/wk on Gratipay (needs to be $625 minimum) * $1,614.64 in Internet Credit Union acct * Rent has been paid for April, $184.27 * does everyone need to consent on a < $30 legal fees for taxes to get cleaned up? ** we don't have quorum but yeah: go ahead (juul) ** i don't think so, your call exchequer (juul) ==Gratipay/IACU Issue== * No deposits received for the month of March: 3/5, 3/12, 3/19, 3/26 =Sudo Proposals= ==Fundraiser party, already!!== * Suggested dates: May 1 (in tandem with SPAZ soundsystem in the basement and First Friday art in the ballroom [no performance planned though, we could do an open mic / 5 minutes of fame type of thing]) - sorry am now discussing the front desk proposal below * everyone: we should have it in actual sudo room, not ballroom * ryan: I can write an invitation * juul: we should request both cash donations and donations of time in the next two weeks to help with renovation/construction * hightechpyro(a)gmail.com has a canon pixma pro something printer than can print on thick things like tiles. If anyone wants to make things for the fundraiser, contact him! * Ryan suggests getting stickers for sudo and using the printer to make coasters. * 15th is deadline for party planning: https://pad.riseup.net/p/partypad ** FUCK YEAH PARTYPAD!!1 ==Sudo Proposal: Buy Stickers== * Get design from: https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Logo * Responsibilibuddy :P - Jenny/juul =Omni Proposals= == Discussion of proposed mural designs == * General feedback discussion, remaining sensitive to everyone involved, not rushing the process. * Links / References for potential improvements: ** Possible to use brighter tones of the same/similar colors? *** e.g. refer to Tom Killion style (japanese coloring technique): http://tomkillion.com/gallery/show?keyword=tam ==Front Door Station Proposal== * pad.riseup.net/p/omninom - rachel - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8a4XV1TCQ8XTk5ra1RmY2tkWVhlUnVfZzBJVi1YX2… ** this is being rerouted to a preliminary conversation between Welcoming Committee and La Commune. it has been removed from the pad as it was not consensed to be there by Welcoming WG. - jenny **okay, everyone in welcoming seemed all behind do-acratically doing it, Niki at first, but then she alerted me to la commune's concerns ** i for one am totally behind it, that's not the point. we should operate by full consensus whenever possible, and bring things to delegates for consensus once it's fully vetted. **to work with la commune before posting it to the meeting? ** yeah! i just sent an email with your proposal to welcoming and la commune folks <3 **yeah, i wanted to send it to delegates for that reason, but you're totes right, this is smooter and specifically respectful ** btw i love that you made a fucking sketchup model ;) **thanks :) ==New Members== * https://sudoroom.org/membership * See emails to members =Action Items= * See partypad :) * Need conflict steward for Doc, Darin(omni not sudo), ** Doc and Darin or Elliot need to email mediation(a)omnicommons.org, can optionally suggest a preferred steward (they are not obligated to commit) * get taxes cleaned up * remove Newbie Night - jenny - just edited it to end today (4/8) -- Jenny http://jennyryan.net http://sudomesh.org http://thevirtualcampfire.org http://technomadic.tumblr.com `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~` "Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories." -Laurie Anderson "Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it." -Hannah Arendt "To define is to kill. To suggest is to create." -Stéphane Mallarmé ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`

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Re: [sudo-discuss] [omni-mediation] Today 4/4/15: Pidgen and Daren have been temp banned for safer spaces policy violations

by yar

On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 2:25 PM, Patrick O'Doherty <p(a)trickod.com> wrote: > Not to armchair-hackerspace but this thread is turning rapidly into > community poison. I think our community is strong enough to handle this and ignore one thread if they're not interested in it. I don't see the point in people writing more emails about how someone else should write fewer emails ... oops.

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this week in tech (4/7/15) - Bitcoin Foundation is “effectively bankrupt”

by Louis Huang

Bitcoin Foundation is “effectively bankrupt,” board member says http://arstechnica.com/business/2015/04/bitcoin-foundation-is-effectively-b… Union Bank of Switzerland to Open Blockchain Lab http://www.coinbuzz.com/2015/04/03/union-bank-of-switzerland-to-open-blockc… The Problem With Using End-to-End Web Crypto as a Cure-All https://www.indolering.com/e2e-web-crypto No, These Biohackers Can’t Give Themselves Infrared Vision http://www.wired.com/2015/04/no-biohackers-cant-give-infrared-vision/ Let’s Make ‘Off The Grid’ A Thing Of The Past http://techcrunch.com/2015/04/01/why-its-more-important-than-ever-to-make-o… DIY New Technology http://www.instructables.com/id/New-Technology/ --- Find more interesting articles on Nubbii (https://nubbii.com), a real time news stream.

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Re: [sudo-discuss] Today 4/4/15: Pidgen and Daren have been temp banned for safer spaces policy violations

by WIld Cat

Here Is what Centi sent me about Pidgeon's Violation of the Non-engagement agreement: Pigeon and I completed a conflict mediation process at the Omni facilitated by Jenny and Ryan. The outcome was a mutual non-engagement agreement. Pigeon has admitted to me, and others, to having sexually assaulted my friend Charity in 2012 at a homeless shelter in Portland. The last time I saw Charity was several months ago, she was pregnant and living on the street in Eugene. When I was taking a shit in the upstairs bathroom at the Omni, Pigeon knocked on the door to check if someone is inside. I responded that I would be out in a minute. Pigeon, then wrote a series of messages on tape that included 'Knock thrice to banish entitlement demons', and posted them on the bathroom door, directed at me. Pigeon's former girlfriend Maria, disclosed that Pigeon made posts on twitter such as "Everyone at that house should be stabbed and shot" which included me, along with other violent suggestions Pigeon took a picture of me on her phone, directly outside the Omni last week, when I was walking inside the Omni Recently, Pigeon has made hostile and provocative sound gestures when I have walked past her in the Omni When I was at the Omni the entire day doing research on the computer in the Sudo Room, I walked outside to smoke a cigarette, and left my back pack. Pigeon was sitting nearby the whole time I was there, and then filled the bottom of my bag with rotten eggs and food waste, which stained my books and personal items while I was outside and my bag was unattended. My bag still smells. Pigeon took pictures of me on her phone in the social services office. Pigeon attempted to get Charlie fired from her job by contacting her employer. Pigeon has threatened and chased Dante with a hammer. Pigeon has been exposed, within groups, for spreading lies and false rumors about select people. Including, false information that has placed individuals within dangerous, high-risk, and unsafe positions. Pigeon has recklessly and indiscriminately made claims against groups of people including, transphobia and transbashing, despite contrary evidence. Pigeons chronic behavior has damaged, neutralized, compromised, and interfered with constructive work and a matrix of social relationships. On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 3:29 AM, WIld Cat <wildcatofthewoods(a)gmail.com> wrote: > "* If you don't believe people can change, you don't believe in RJ or > TJ, **and I would LOVE to hear your alternative**to my eyes the only > other options are punishment or annihilation, like the state does,** if > you're really radical, you'll seek alternative forms of resolution** besides > exile, punishment and "training" people, * > *whenever possible. I do believe people can change but sometimes you need > to draw a line and make sure that the mediation process isn't being abused > by the perpetrator. Comparing my forms of dealing with accountability to > the State and it's prison/jail industrial complex is gravely offensive to > me. I have been to jail before for being homeless - ( 3 charges of > tresspassing) - stopping cops from beating people up or using a car to > crash into a crowd -( 2 charges obstructing a peace officer)- getting > crashed into by a cop - (assault on an officer- charges dropped) stopping > the earth from being destroyed and otherwise homeless peoples camps by > blockade ( 2 charges obstruction of a roadway) Every time was arrested I > endured beatings as well as mental and once extreme physical torture. > Comparing my process to such a brutal process as the state's is really > fucked up.* > > NOT ONCE have I seen you actually pursue mediation. No one has asked me > to attend a meeting or anything but when ever people have wanted to talk to > me I have stopped what I was doing to talk about accountability issues. > This is pursuing mediation. I also took the ban proposals to the sudo > meetings and have an informal mediation with FNB Joe. > > *IN FACT WildCAt is currently refusing to participate in more than one > mediation, **and while in some cases i actually agree with that other > person being banned, and see the issues clear** my problem wtih this is > not about that person being banned,** I often think WildCat is right,* > * but it's about THE PROCESS AND RESPECTING IT Not wanting to engage with > people I do not feel safe around is not failing to mediate. Like I have > said no one asked me to go to a follow up meeeting.* > > *You Still Have To Go To Mediation **In Some Case In Your Life, Why > would i be talking on this list if i wasnt interested in mediation* > *If You Recognize The Process At All - * Rachel I followed process by > emailing y'all and I followed the steps of the Safer Spaces policy: > > "These are some examples of unacceptable behavior. This list is by no > means exhaustive. Harassment includes but is not limited to: > > - *Deliberate intimidation - Babs and I * > - *Deliberate misgendering or use of ‘dead’ or rejected names - > Calling me a dude and man with aggressive and accentuaded tone implying it > was intentional misgendering* > - *Threats of violence - Telling me that we should walk a couple of > blocks to settle it like adults implying he wanted to fight.* > - *Gratuitous or off-topic sexual images or behaviour in spaces where > they’re not appropriate - Telling me he liked phone sex the yelling at me > about how I needed to get off of my phone in sudo room. rather than asking > me calmly,* > > 4.‎ ‏Consequences‭ ‬of‭ ‬Unacceptable‭ ‬Behavior > > Unacceptable‭ ‬behavior‭ ‬from‭ ‬any‭one at the Omni,‭ ‬including‭ > ‬sponsors‭ ‬and‭ ‬those‭ ‬with‭ ‬decision-making‭ ‬authority,‭ ‬will‭ ‬not‭ > ‬be‭ ‬tolerated. > > Anyone‭ ‬asked‭ ‬to‭ ‬stop‭ ‬unacceptable‭ ‬behavior‭ ‬is‭ ‬expected‭ ‬to‭ > ‬comply‭ ‬immediately. If‭ ‬someone‭ ‬engages‭ ‬in‭ ‬unacceptable‭ > ‬behavior,‭* anyone* at the Omni‬‭ should feel empowered to take action > to address the situation (i.e., talk to the person involved, point out > violent or threatening behavior, *ask them to leave the space*, etc.). In > cases where someone's safety is at risk, a temporary ban may be put in > place until the Omni's conflict resolution process can be followed to > resolution. ‬ > > > 5.‎ ‏If‭ ‬You‭ ‬Witness‭ ‬or‭ ‬Are‭ ‬Subject‭ ‬to‭ ‬Unacceptable‭ ‬Behavior > > This section needs to be fleshed out more - please see it as a draft in > progress. > > - *Everyone should feel empowered to confront aggressive individuals, > but we recommend that you do not approach a potentially violent conflict > without another community member, preferably a core organizer, co-present.* > > _______________________________ > > *If You're Willing To Work On It " - I am working my ass off on it.* > > *BTW I talked to people who lived at Hellarity (susie and enola) whom > confirmed that Darin was asked to leave multiple times for sexually > innapripriate behaivor but keeped showing up. * > > *Also he was banned from the G-spot Squat immediately after for sexually > grinding on/groping a person during a party which Susie Q and I were at. > (more that I have not talked to) * > > > > On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 2:56 AM, WIld Cat <wildcatofthewoods(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> I think Rachel is\ blowing my proposals out of proportion by saying >> >> "*What would you do with them? * >> *Put them all in one country? * >> *Kind of like a concentration of them?* >> * Like a camp? Kill them all off? **All bad ideas." * >> >> I am not saying he is banned I am discussing proposals for a ban and a >> constructive resolution. I as a non-member can still call on the safer >> space policy to have someone temp banned from the space to establish >> safety. No one has asked that I go to a mediation meeting I just said that >> I didn't want to talk to any of these people directly. >> >> >> "* If you don't believe people can change, you don't believe in RJ or >> TJ, * >> *and I would LOVE to hear your alternative* >> *to my eyes the only other options are punishment or annihilation, like >> the state does,* >> * if you're really radical, you'll seek alternative forms of resolution* >> * besides exile, punishment and "training" people, * >> *whenever possible. * >> >> *NOT ONCE have I seen you actually pursue mediation. * >> >> *IN FACT WildCAt is currently refusing to participate in more than one >> mediation, * >> *and while in some cases i actually agree with that other person being >> banned, and see the issues clear* >> * my problem wtih this is not about that person being banned,* >> * I often think WildCat is right,* >> * but it's about THE PROCESS AND RESPECTING IT* >> >> *You Still Have To Go To Mediation * >> *In Some Case In Your Life, * >> *If You Recognize The Process At All* >> >> *If You're Willing To Work On It, "* >> >> >> Rachel I followed process by emailing y'all and I followed the steps of >> the Safer Spaces policy: >> >> "These are some examples of unacceptable behavior. This list is by no >> means exhaustive. Harassment includes but is not limited to: >> >> - *Deliberate intimidation - Babs and I * >> - *Deliberate misgendering or use of ‘dead’ or rejected names - >> Calling me a dude and man with aggressive and accentuaded tone implying it >> was intentional misgendering* >> - *Threats of violence - Telling me that we should walk a couple of >> blocks to settle it like adults implying he wanted to fight.* >> - *Gratuitous or off-topic sexual images or behaviour in spaces where >> they’re not appropriate - Telling me he liked phone sex the yelling at me >> about how I needed to get off of my phone in sudo room. rather than asking >> me calmly,* >> >> 4.‎ ‏Consequences‭ ‬of‭ ‬Unacceptable‭ ‬Behavior >> >> Unacceptable‭ ‬behavior‭ ‬from‭ ‬any‭one at the Omni,‭ ‬including‭ >> ‬sponsors‭ ‬and‭ ‬those‭ ‬with‭ ‬decision-making‭ ‬authority,‭ ‬will‭ ‬not‭ >> ‬be‭ ‬tolerated. >> >> Anyone‭ ‬asked‭ ‬to‭ ‬stop‭ ‬unacceptable‭ ‬behavior‭ ‬is‭ ‬expected‭ >> ‬to‭ ‬comply‭ ‬immediately. If‭ ‬someone‭ ‬engages‭ ‬in‭ ‬unacceptable‭ >> ‬behavior,‭* anyone* at the Omni‬‭ should feel empowered to take action >> to address the situation (i.e., talk to the person involved, point out >> violent or threatening behavior, *ask them to leave the space*, etc.). >> In cases where someone's safety is at risk, a temporary ban may be put in >> place until the Omni's conflict resolution process can be followed to >> resolution. ‬ >> >> >> 5.‎ ‏If‭ ‬You‭ ‬Witness‭ ‬or‭ ‬Are‭ ‬Subject‭ ‬to‭ ‬Unacceptable‭ >> ‬Behavior >> >> This section needs to be fleshed out more - please see it as a draft in >> progress. >> >> - *Everyone should feel empowered to confront aggressive individuals, >> but we recommend that you do not approach a potentially violent conflict >> without another community member, preferably a core organizer, co-present.* >> >> >> _________________________________________________________________________________ >> >> >> >> On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 3:25 PM, <hol(a)gaskill.com> wrote: >> >>> friendly reminder - our conflict resolution process was born out of a >>> desire to keep conflicts from consuming the time and energy of the whole >>> community, especially those that are not involved in the conflict and do >>> not have bandwidth to help mediate as an impartial party - this includes >>> general meetings and discussion forums >>> >>> >>> On 2015-04-06 14:02, Rachel Wolfsohn wrote: >>> >>> I'm sorry, Torrie, I really am....sudoconsensus may be needed? >>>> On Mon, Apr 06, 2015 at 1:27 PM, Torrie Fischer < >>>> tdfischer(a)hackerbots.net> wrote: >>>> >>>> This is very not important to me because I don't want to read this on >>>>> sudo >>>>> discuss so I'm unsubscribing from sudo discuss for a while because >>>>> everyone >>>>> keeps including sudo-discuss as if it somehow makes everything better. >>>>> >>>>> On Monday, April 06, 2015 11:59:40 AM Rachel Wolfsohn wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> This is very important to me, because I said I wouldn't keep >>>>>> including sudo >>>>>> discuss, and now i'm going back on that >>>>>> but WildCat does keep including sudo-discuss, >>>>>> so I feel like I can't leave it at some long email to one side bias, >>>>>> whether mine or not >>>>>> so I'm responding to sudo discuss >>>>>> to be heard by the group who is already hearing this >>>>>> >>>>>> sigh, i'm sorry, but I'm upset now.... >>>>>> >>>>>> *People NEED to be given a chance to change. * >>>>>> *Just because you knew someone for a long time and saw problematic >>>>>> behavior >>>>>> before doesn't mean they can't come to a new place, * >>>>>> *and a reformed community, * >>>>>> *where they can try to learn and grow. * >>>>>> >>>>>> *If people are not given a chance to grow what would you do with >>>>>> them?* >>>>>> >>>>>> * If you don't believe people can change, you don't believe in RJ or >>>>>> TJ, * >>>>>> *and I would LOVE to hear your alternative* >>>>>> *to my eyes the only other options are punishment or annihilation, >>>>>> like the >>>>>> state does,* >>>>>> * if you're really radical, you'll seek alternative forms of >>>>>> resolution* >>>>>> * besides exile, punishment and "training" people, * >>>>>> *whenever possible. * >>>>>> >>>>>> *NOT ONCE have I seen you actually pursue mediation. * >>>>>> >>>>>> *IN FACT WildCAt is currently refusing to participate in more than one >>>>>> mediation, * >>>>>> *and while in some cases i actually agree with that other person being >>>>>> banned, and see the issues clear* >>>>>> * my problem wtih this is not about that person being banned,* >>>>>> * I often think WildCat is right,* >>>>>> * but it's about THE PROCESS AND RESPECTING IT* >>>>>> >>>>>> *You Still Have To Go To Mediation * >>>>>> *In Some Case In Your Life, * >>>>>> *If You Recognize The Process At All* >>>>>> >>>>>> *If You're Willing To Work On It, * >>>>>> >>>>>> *The Refusal Of Mediation Is There To Keep People Safe* >>>>>> * In Dire Circumstances * >>>>>> *Not In Any Case You Want* >>>>>> * And Every Case All The Time* >>>>>> * Because You Feel Like It And It's Your Privilege* >>>>>> >>>>>> *I don't feel like you're respecting that process....* >>>>>> >>>>>> PERSONALLY I feel: >>>>>> Exile is not a real option for the world. If someone is continuously >>>>>> exiled >>>>>> and not educated and transforming, they will have no where else to >>>>>> go. This >>>>>> is part of the world, you can't just close yourself off from it and >>>>>> ignore >>>>>> people >>>>>> >>>>>> *If you want it to get better, really get better, judging people and >>>>>> pushing them out is not the way to actually help it* >>>>>> >>>>>> *What would you do with them? * >>>>>> *Put them all in one country? * >>>>>> *Kind of like a concentration of them?* >>>>>> * Like a camp? Kill them all off? **All bad ideas. * >>>>>> >>>>>> *We need to help people grow, and * >>>>>> *if you consider yourself an organizer * >>>>>> *or a helper of the world* >>>>>> * it IS your job to help people grow a* >>>>>> *nd give people another chance, * >>>>>> *provided they seek new conditions that will faciiltate growth* >>>>>> >>>>>> *It has to come from them. Yes.* >>>>>> *And it is coming from Darin, * >>>>>> *however slowly he's learning* >>>>>> >>>>>> Btw "WildCat" You are not yet a member of sudo yet. >>>>>> And you're scaring people, >>>>>> with all your bans in a row all of a sudden, >>>>>> >>>>>> now that you think you have power >>>>>> >>>>>> *i'm not quitting, but this email put me back over, i'm taking another >>>>>> break.* >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 11:39 AM, Cere Misc <cere.misc(a)gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> PLEASE TAKE THIS OFF THE SUDO-DISCUSS LIST! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 11:32 AM, WIld Cat < >>>>>>> wildcatofthewoods(a)gmail.com> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Also with that one month ban I feel that from then on there would >>>>>>>> need to >>>>>>>> be zero tolerance for any of these behaviors to continue. Last time >>>>>>>> I saw >>>>>>>> him he challenged me to a fight by saying " do you want to walk a >>>>>>>> couple >>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>> blocks away and handle this like an adult" and my response was to >>>>>>>> walk >>>>>>>> away.. someone brought up to me that I was causing drama by drawing >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> line with these people but what folks need to understand is that >>>>>>>> each of >>>>>>>> these people have been going through conflict mediation in this >>>>>>>> space so >>>>>>>> the drama is theirs not mine. I should not be the one to blame for >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> taking a stance against the problems these people are causing. >>>>>>>> Though to >>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>> accountable in dealing with peoples issues I will gather more >>>>>>>> members of >>>>>>>> the space to address them. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Monday, April 6, 2015, WIld Cat <wildcatofthewoods(a)gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So I have known Darin for years and he has been called out for all >>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>> this behavior before and still hasn't learned. In terms of him >>>>>>>>> misgendering >>>>>>>>> me it seemed malicious because he accentuated " man" there were >>>>>>>>> several >>>>>>>>> witnesses to his extremely aggressive behavior that was a defensive >>>>>>>>> response to me calmly asking why he was yelling at Babs. sexual >>>>>>>>> harassment >>>>>>>>> is not OK. I don't think you can speak for the other people who >>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>> called >>>>>>>>> him out for inappropriate flirting. I had the conflict mediated by >>>>>>>>> Joe >>>>>>>>> but >>>>>>>>> but still just acts the same to different people. I would propose a >>>>>>>>> month >>>>>>>>> ban at least so he gets that its not being accountable will have >>>>>>>>> serious >>>>>>>>> consequences. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sunday, April 5, 2015, Rachel Wolfsohn <rawjnana(a)gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> This is the last email I will include sudodisxuss on for this >>>>>>>>>> thread... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Darin is currently undergoing mediation, and should be given the >>>>>>>>>> chance >>>>>>>>>> to do so before a ban goes through. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I have a blocking concern for such a ban on darin.... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> My belief that darin can change enough, however slowly, is >>>>>>>>>> justified >>>>>>>>>> and potent. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I have seen he already has. In front of me at least, he no longer >>>>>>>>>> misgenders anyone, including those ppl he previously had, after we >>>>>>>>>> discussed it one night. Even if he's pissed at them. An immediate >>>>>>>>>> improvement from the heart and higher self layered under psychic >>>>>>>>>> shit >>>>>>>>>> like >>>>>>>>>> we all have to deal with just like him, is what I see...He is >>>>>>>>>> actively >>>>>>>>>> working, works hard in general and physically protects ppl from >>>>>>>>>> harassment >>>>>>>>>> daily. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Misgendering: >>>>>>>>>> I too have been editing "he" for "them" with you Wildcat, because >>>>>>>>>> your >>>>>>>>>> gender pronoun is recent news to me as well as to many others. >>>>>>>>>> I strive to use They, bc of respect for trans identity in >>>>>>>>>> general, and >>>>>>>>>> ALSO camaraderie with you. >>>>>>>>>> But it takes a little time, and it is in good faith with >>>>>>>>>> continuous >>>>>>>>>> editing on my part, as it is for others. >>>>>>>>>> I'm really sorry you are hurt by misgendering and will do my best >>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>> correct the instances I witness. As I'm sure Darin will too, now >>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>>>> information is available >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sexual Language: >>>>>>>>>> Darin is working on this too. I have twice hung out with darin and >>>>>>>>>> neded to comment on his comments, asking him to hold his tongue, >>>>>>>>>> bc it >>>>>>>>>> was >>>>>>>>>> TMI about his sexual thoughts. >>>>>>>>>> It was not safe space language, and I asked him to.hold his >>>>>>>>>> tongue, but >>>>>>>>>> not an implication of action either, more like expression. >>>>>>>>>> Without FAIL he immediately apologizes and aims to hold back such >>>>>>>>>> comments. He is actively learning what to reserve to his private >>>>>>>>>> thoughts >>>>>>>>>> and I appreciate it from the bottom of my heart... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thus, I have a blocking.concern for this ban suggested for Darin >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Love, seriously, love, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 05, 2015 at 10:31 AM, Torrie Fischer < >>>>>>>>>> tdfischer(a)hackerbots.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Theres community issues, then theres "issues that involve the >>>>>>>>>> hundreds >>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>> people subscribed to sudo-discuss". >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> This is not one of those issues. I have no involvement with this. >>>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>>> don't want >>>>>>>>>> to get involved with this. I'd honestly rather not hear about who >>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>> fighting >>>>>>>>>> who, or see people tearing down each other in public. I'd rather >>>>>>>>>> just >>>>>>>>>> hack a >>>>>>>>>> thing and assume that Sudo Room is a happy cheery place that has >>>>>>>>>> their >>>>>>>>>> shit >>>>>>>>>> together and everyone gets along. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> My Ƀ0.02. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, April 04, 2015 03:37:39 PM WIld Cat wrote: >>>>>>>>>> > These are community issues not personal issues. >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Tracy Jacobs < >>>>>>>>>> kinetical(a)comcast.net> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> > > Sudoers, >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > Respectfully can I suggest that you find another way to >>>>>>>>>> address >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> issues of >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > > a personal nature and character assassinations or public >>>>>>>>>> shaming >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> other >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > > than >>>>>>>>>> > > this public mailing list? Why anyone would want to go to Sudo >>>>>>>>>> room >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> after >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > > reading this mailing list is beyond my comprehension. And it >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> really is a >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > > great place. Can anyone think of another venue for these >>>>>>>>>> types of >>>>>>>>>> > > discussions? >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > Tracy >>>>>>>>>> > > On Apr 4, 2015, at 2:41 PM, WIld Cat < >>>>>>>>>> wildcatofthewoods(a)gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> > > Daren returned to the space about 20 mins after trying to >>>>>>>>>> re-enter >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > > said to me " Do you want to go a couplwe blocks away from >>>>>>>>>> here and >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> handle >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > > this like an adult." >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > Pidgen is claiming that I threatened her and I did tell her >>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "you need >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > > to chill out or some shit is going to happen" but I also >>>>>>>>>> clarified >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> by >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > > saying "I am not threatening you with any form of violence." >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > Darin is claiming that Babs sexually assaulted someone but >>>>>>>>>> Darin >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> did not >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > > give any details of what happened. >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 2:00 PM, WIld Cat < >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> wildcatofthewoods(a)gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > > wrote: >>>>>>>>>> > >> Today Pidgen was asked to leave in violation of the safer >>>>>>>>>> spaces >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> policy >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >> on an admitted account of sexual assault in the past as well >>>>>>>>>> as >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> recent >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >> behaviors of harassment. Daren was asked to leave in >>>>>>>>>> violation of >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >> safer >>>>>>>>>> > >> spaces policy by aggressive behavior (aggressive swearing, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> intentional >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >> misgendering, inappropriate sexual comments (Told me in an >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> aggressive way >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >> that he liked phone sex, than began to yell at me.) He has >>>>>>>>>> had a >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> history >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >> of >>>>>>>>>> > >> being banned from spaces for similar behaviors of sexual >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> harassment and >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >> inappropriate behavior. >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> I would like to begin a mediation process for Daren and I do >>>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> feel >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >> safe with him being in the space during such process. >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> To my knowledge there is an ongoing mediation between Pidgen >>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Centi. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >> that Pidgen has allegedly violated due to harassing behavior. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Pidgen has >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >> been banned from several other radical spaces for entitlement >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> problems - >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >> theft - aggressive behaivor - accountability issues. >>>>>>>>>> > >> I do not feel safe in the presences of Pidgen and would call >>>>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>>>> > >> the >>>>>>>>>> > >> community to permanently ban Pidgen. >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> > > sudo-discuss mailing list >>>>>>>>>> > > sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >>>>>>>>>> > > https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> sudo-discuss mailing list >>>>>>>>>> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >>>>>>>>>> https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> sudo-discuss mailing list >>>>>>>> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >>>>>>>> https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> sudo-discuss mailing list >>>> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >>>> https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss [1] >>>> >>> >>> >>> Links: >>> ------ >>> [1] https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> sudo-discuss mailing list >>> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >>> https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss >>> >> >> >

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Fwd: Today 4/4/15: Pidgen and Daren have been temp banned for safer spaces policy violations

by WIld Cat

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: WIld Cat <wildcatofthewoods(a)gmail.com> Date: Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 3:29 AM Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] Today 4/4/15: Pidgen and Daren have been temp banned for safer spaces policy violations To: Hol Gaskill <hol(a)gaskill.com> Cc: Rachel Wolfsohn <rawjnana(a)gmail.com>, "mediation(a)omnicommons.org" < mediation(a)omnicommons.org>, cdc(a)lists.omnicommons.org "* If you don't believe people can change, you don't believe in RJ or TJ, **and I would LOVE to hear your alternative**to my eyes the only other options are punishment or annihilation, like the state does,** if you're really radical, you'll seek alternative forms of resolution** besides exile, punishment and "training" people, * *whenever possible. I do believe people can change but sometimes you need to draw a line and make sure that the mediation process isn't being abused by the perpetrator. Comparing my forms of dealing with accountability to the State and it's prison/jail industrial complex is gravely offensive to me. I have been to jail before for being homeless - ( 3 charges of tresspassing) - stopping cops from beating people up or using a car to crash into a crowd -( 2 charges obstructing a peace officer)- getting crashed into by a cop - (assault on an officer- charges dropped) stopping the earth from being destroyed and otherwise homeless peoples camps by blockade ( 2 charges obstruction of a roadway) Every time was arrested I endured beatings as well as mental and once extreme physical torture. Comparing my process to such a brutal process as the state's is really fucked up.* NOT ONCE have I seen you actually pursue mediation. No one has asked me to attend a meeting or anything but when ever people have wanted to talk to me I have stopped what I was doing to talk about accountability issues. This is pursuing mediation. I also took the ban proposals to the sudo meetings and have an informal mediation with FNB Joe. *IN FACT WildCAt is currently refusing to participate in more than one mediation, **and while in some cases i actually agree with that other person being banned, and see the issues clear** my problem wtih this is not about that person being banned,** I often think WildCat is right,* * but it's about THE PROCESS AND RESPECTING IT Not wanting to engage with people I do not feel safe around is not failing to mediate. Like I have said no one asked me to go to a follow up meeeting.* *You Still Have To Go To Mediation **In Some Case In Your Life, Why would i be talking on this list if i wasnt interested in mediation* *If You Recognize The Process At All - * Rachel I followed process by emailing y'all and I followed the steps of the Safer Spaces policy: "These are some examples of unacceptable behavior. This list is by no means exhaustive. Harassment includes but is not limited to: - *Deliberate intimidation - Babs and I * - *Deliberate misgendering or use of ‘dead’ or rejected names - Calling me a dude and man with aggressive and accentuaded tone implying it was intentional misgendering* - *Threats of violence - Telling me that we should walk a couple of blocks to settle it like adults implying he wanted to fight.* - *Gratuitous or off-topic sexual images or behaviour in spaces where they’re not appropriate - Telling me he liked phone sex the yelling at me about how I needed to get off of my phone in sudo room. rather than asking me calmly,* 4.‎ ‏Consequences‭ ‬of‭ ‬Unacceptable‭ ‬Behavior Unacceptable‭ ‬behavior‭ ‬from‭ ‬any‭one at the Omni,‭ ‬including‭ ‬sponsors‭ ‬and‭ ‬those‭ ‬with‭ ‬decision-making‭ ‬authority,‭ ‬will‭ ‬not‭ ‬be‭ ‬tolerated. Anyone‭ ‬asked‭ ‬to‭ ‬stop‭ ‬unacceptable‭ ‬behavior‭ ‬is‭ ‬expected‭ ‬to‭ ‬comply‭ ‬immediately. If‭ ‬someone‭ ‬engages‭ ‬in‭ ‬unacceptable‭ ‬behavior,‭* anyone* at the Omni‬‭ should feel empowered to take action to address the situation (i.e., talk to the person involved, point out violent or threatening behavior, *ask them to leave the space*, etc.). In cases where someone's safety is at risk, a temporary ban may be put in place until the Omni's conflict resolution process can be followed to resolution. ‬ 5.‎ ‏If‭ ‬You‭ ‬Witness‭ ‬or‭ ‬Are‭ ‬Subject‭ ‬to‭ ‬Unacceptable‭ ‬Behavior This section needs to be fleshed out more - please see it as a draft in progress. - *Everyone should feel empowered to confront aggressive individuals, but we recommend that you do not approach a potentially violent conflict without another community member, preferably a core organizer, co-present.* _______________________________ *If You're Willing To Work On It " - I am working my ass off on it.* *BTW I talked to people who lived at Hellarity (susie and enola) whom confirmed that Darin was asked to leave multiple times for sexually innapripriate behaivor but keeped showing up. * *Also he was banned from the G-spot Squat immediately after for sexually grinding on/groping a person during a party which Susie Q and I were at. (more that I have not talked to) * On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 2:56 AM, WIld Cat <wildcatofthewoods(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I think Rachel is\ blowing my proposals out of proportion by saying > > "*What would you do with them? * > *Put them all in one country? * > *Kind of like a concentration of them?* > * Like a camp? Kill them all off? **All bad ideas." * > > I am not saying he is banned I am discussing proposals for a ban and a > constructive resolution. I as a non-member can still call on the safer > space policy to have someone temp banned from the space to establish > safety. No one has asked that I go to a mediation meeting I just said that > I didn't want to talk to any of these people directly. > > > "* If you don't believe people can change, you don't believe in RJ or > TJ, * > *and I would LOVE to hear your alternative* > *to my eyes the only other options are punishment or annihilation, like > the state does,* > * if you're really radical, you'll seek alternative forms of resolution* > * besides exile, punishment and "training" people, * > *whenever possible. * > > *NOT ONCE have I seen you actually pursue mediation. * > > *IN FACT WildCAt is currently refusing to participate in more than one > mediation, * > *and while in some cases i actually agree with that other person being > banned, and see the issues clear* > * my problem wtih this is not about that person being banned,* > * I often think WildCat is right,* > * but it's about THE PROCESS AND RESPECTING IT* > > *You Still Have To Go To Mediation * > *In Some Case In Your Life, * > *If You Recognize The Process At All* > > *If You're Willing To Work On It, "* > > > Rachel I followed process by emailing y'all and I followed the steps of > the Safer Spaces policy: > > "These are some examples of unacceptable behavior. This list is by no > means exhaustive. Harassment includes but is not limited to: > > - *Deliberate intimidation - Babs and I * > - *Deliberate misgendering or use of ‘dead’ or rejected names - > Calling me a dude and man with aggressive and accentuaded tone implying it > was intentional misgendering* > - *Threats of violence - Telling me that we should walk a couple of > blocks to settle it like adults implying he wanted to fight.* > - *Gratuitous or off-topic sexual images or behaviour in spaces where > they’re not appropriate - Telling me he liked phone sex the yelling at me > about how I needed to get off of my phone in sudo room. rather than asking > me calmly,* > > 4.‎ ‏Consequences‭ ‬of‭ ‬Unacceptable‭ ‬Behavior > > Unacceptable‭ ‬behavior‭ ‬from‭ ‬any‭one at the Omni,‭ ‬including‭ > ‬sponsors‭ ‬and‭ ‬those‭ ‬with‭ ‬decision-making‭ ‬authority,‭ ‬will‭ ‬not‭ > ‬be‭ ‬tolerated. > > Anyone‭ ‬asked‭ ‬to‭ ‬stop‭ ‬unacceptable‭ ‬behavior‭ ‬is‭ ‬expected‭ ‬to‭ > ‬comply‭ ‬immediately. If‭ ‬someone‭ ‬engages‭ ‬in‭ ‬unacceptable‭ > ‬behavior,‭* anyone* at the Omni‬‭ should feel empowered to take action > to address the situation (i.e., talk to the person involved, point out > violent or threatening behavior, *ask them to leave the space*, etc.). In > cases where someone's safety is at risk, a temporary ban may be put in > place until the Omni's conflict resolution process can be followed to > resolution. ‬ > > > 5.‎ ‏If‭ ‬You‭ ‬Witness‭ ‬or‭ ‬Are‭ ‬Subject‭ ‬to‭ ‬Unacceptable‭ ‬Behavior > > This section needs to be fleshed out more - please see it as a draft in > progress. > > - *Everyone should feel empowered to confront aggressive individuals, > but we recommend that you do not approach a potentially violent conflict > without another community member, preferably a core organizer, co-present.* > > > _________________________________________________________________________________ > > > > On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 3:25 PM, <hol(a)gaskill.com> wrote: > >> friendly reminder - our conflict resolution process was born out of a >> desire to keep conflicts from consuming the time and energy of the whole >> community, especially those that are not involved in the conflict and do >> not have bandwidth to help mediate as an impartial party - this includes >> general meetings and discussion forums >> >> >> On 2015-04-06 14:02, Rachel Wolfsohn wrote: >> >> I'm sorry, Torrie, I really am....sudoconsensus may be needed? >>> On Mon, Apr 06, 2015 at 1:27 PM, Torrie Fischer < >>> tdfischer(a)hackerbots.net> wrote: >>> >>> This is very not important to me because I don't want to read this on >>>> sudo >>>> discuss so I'm unsubscribing from sudo discuss for a while because >>>> everyone >>>> keeps including sudo-discuss as if it somehow makes everything better. >>>> >>>> On Monday, April 06, 2015 11:59:40 AM Rachel Wolfsohn wrote: >>>> >>>>> This is very important to me, because I said I wouldn't keep including >>>>> sudo >>>>> discuss, and now i'm going back on that >>>>> but WildCat does keep including sudo-discuss, >>>>> so I feel like I can't leave it at some long email to one side bias, >>>>> whether mine or not >>>>> so I'm responding to sudo discuss >>>>> to be heard by the group who is already hearing this >>>>> >>>>> sigh, i'm sorry, but I'm upset now.... >>>>> >>>>> *People NEED to be given a chance to change. * >>>>> *Just because you knew someone for a long time and saw problematic >>>>> behavior >>>>> before doesn't mean they can't come to a new place, * >>>>> *and a reformed community, * >>>>> *where they can try to learn and grow. * >>>>> >>>>> *If people are not given a chance to grow what would you do with them?* >>>>> >>>>> * If you don't believe people can change, you don't believe in RJ or >>>>> TJ, * >>>>> *and I would LOVE to hear your alternative* >>>>> *to my eyes the only other options are punishment or annihilation, >>>>> like the >>>>> state does,* >>>>> * if you're really radical, you'll seek alternative forms of >>>>> resolution* >>>>> * besides exile, punishment and "training" people, * >>>>> *whenever possible. * >>>>> >>>>> *NOT ONCE have I seen you actually pursue mediation. * >>>>> >>>>> *IN FACT WildCAt is currently refusing to participate in more than one >>>>> mediation, * >>>>> *and while in some cases i actually agree with that other person being >>>>> banned, and see the issues clear* >>>>> * my problem wtih this is not about that person being banned,* >>>>> * I often think WildCat is right,* >>>>> * but it's about THE PROCESS AND RESPECTING IT* >>>>> >>>>> *You Still Have To Go To Mediation * >>>>> *In Some Case In Your Life, * >>>>> *If You Recognize The Process At All* >>>>> >>>>> *If You're Willing To Work On It, * >>>>> >>>>> *The Refusal Of Mediation Is There To Keep People Safe* >>>>> * In Dire Circumstances * >>>>> *Not In Any Case You Want* >>>>> * And Every Case All The Time* >>>>> * Because You Feel Like It And It's Your Privilege* >>>>> >>>>> *I don't feel like you're respecting that process....* >>>>> >>>>> PERSONALLY I feel: >>>>> Exile is not a real option for the world. If someone is continuously >>>>> exiled >>>>> and not educated and transforming, they will have no where else to go. >>>>> This >>>>> is part of the world, you can't just close yourself off from it and >>>>> ignore >>>>> people >>>>> >>>>> *If you want it to get better, really get better, judging people and >>>>> pushing them out is not the way to actually help it* >>>>> >>>>> *What would you do with them? * >>>>> *Put them all in one country? * >>>>> *Kind of like a concentration of them?* >>>>> * Like a camp? Kill them all off? **All bad ideas. * >>>>> >>>>> *We need to help people grow, and * >>>>> *if you consider yourself an organizer * >>>>> *or a helper of the world* >>>>> * it IS your job to help people grow a* >>>>> *nd give people another chance, * >>>>> *provided they seek new conditions that will faciiltate growth* >>>>> >>>>> *It has to come from them. Yes.* >>>>> *And it is coming from Darin, * >>>>> *however slowly he's learning* >>>>> >>>>> Btw "WildCat" You are not yet a member of sudo yet. >>>>> And you're scaring people, >>>>> with all your bans in a row all of a sudden, >>>>> >>>>> now that you think you have power >>>>> >>>>> *i'm not quitting, but this email put me back over, i'm taking another >>>>> break.* >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 11:39 AM, Cere Misc <cere.misc(a)gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> PLEASE TAKE THIS OFF THE SUDO-DISCUSS LIST! >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 11:32 AM, WIld Cat < >>>>>> wildcatofthewoods(a)gmail.com> >>>>>> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Also with that one month ban I feel that from then on there would >>>>>>> need to >>>>>>> be zero tolerance for any of these behaviors to continue. Last time >>>>>>> I saw >>>>>>> him he challenged me to a fight by saying " do you want to walk a >>>>>>> couple >>>>>>> of >>>>>>> blocks away and handle this like an adult" and my response was to >>>>>>> walk >>>>>>> away.. someone brought up to me that I was causing drama by drawing >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> line with these people but what folks need to understand is that >>>>>>> each of >>>>>>> these people have been going through conflict mediation in this >>>>>>> space so >>>>>>> the drama is theirs not mine. I should not be the one to blame for >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> taking a stance against the problems these people are causing. >>>>>>> Though to >>>>>>> be >>>>>>> accountable in dealing with peoples issues I will gather more >>>>>>> members of >>>>>>> the space to address them. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Monday, April 6, 2015, WIld Cat <wildcatofthewoods(a)gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So I have known Darin for years and he has been called out for all >>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>> this behavior before and still hasn't learned. In terms of him >>>>>>>> misgendering >>>>>>>> me it seemed malicious because he accentuated " man" there were >>>>>>>> several >>>>>>>> witnesses to his extremely aggressive behavior that was a defensive >>>>>>>> response to me calmly asking why he was yelling at Babs. sexual >>>>>>>> harassment >>>>>>>> is not OK. I don't think you can speak for the other people who have >>>>>>>> called >>>>>>>> him out for inappropriate flirting. I had the conflict mediated by >>>>>>>> Joe >>>>>>>> but >>>>>>>> but still just acts the same to different people. I would propose a >>>>>>>> month >>>>>>>> ban at least so he gets that its not being accountable will have >>>>>>>> serious >>>>>>>> consequences. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sunday, April 5, 2015, Rachel Wolfsohn <rawjnana(a)gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> This is the last email I will include sudodisxuss on for this >>>>>>>>> thread... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Darin is currently undergoing mediation, and should be given the >>>>>>>>> chance >>>>>>>>> to do so before a ban goes through. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I have a blocking concern for such a ban on darin.... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> My belief that darin can change enough, however slowly, is >>>>>>>>> justified >>>>>>>>> and potent. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I have seen he already has. In front of me at least, he no longer >>>>>>>>> misgenders anyone, including those ppl he previously had, after we >>>>>>>>> discussed it one night. Even if he's pissed at them. An immediate >>>>>>>>> improvement from the heart and higher self layered under psychic >>>>>>>>> shit >>>>>>>>> like >>>>>>>>> we all have to deal with just like him, is what I see...He is >>>>>>>>> actively >>>>>>>>> working, works hard in general and physically protects ppl from >>>>>>>>> harassment >>>>>>>>> daily. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Misgendering: >>>>>>>>> I too have been editing "he" for "them" with you Wildcat, because >>>>>>>>> your >>>>>>>>> gender pronoun is recent news to me as well as to many others. >>>>>>>>> I strive to use They, bc of respect for trans identity in general, >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> ALSO camaraderie with you. >>>>>>>>> But it takes a little time, and it is in good faith with continuous >>>>>>>>> editing on my part, as it is for others. >>>>>>>>> I'm really sorry you are hurt by misgendering and will do my best >>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>> correct the instances I witness. As I'm sure Darin will too, now >>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>>> information is available >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sexual Language: >>>>>>>>> Darin is working on this too. I have twice hung out with darin and >>>>>>>>> neded to comment on his comments, asking him to hold his tongue, >>>>>>>>> bc it >>>>>>>>> was >>>>>>>>> TMI about his sexual thoughts. >>>>>>>>> It was not safe space language, and I asked him to.hold his >>>>>>>>> tongue, but >>>>>>>>> not an implication of action either, more like expression. >>>>>>>>> Without FAIL he immediately apologizes and aims to hold back such >>>>>>>>> comments. He is actively learning what to reserve to his private >>>>>>>>> thoughts >>>>>>>>> and I appreciate it from the bottom of my heart... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thus, I have a blocking.concern for this ban suggested for Darin >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Love, seriously, love, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 05, 2015 at 10:31 AM, Torrie Fischer < >>>>>>>>> tdfischer(a)hackerbots.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Theres community issues, then theres "issues that involve the >>>>>>>>> hundreds >>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>> people subscribed to sudo-discuss". >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> This is not one of those issues. I have no involvement with this. I >>>>>>>>> don't want >>>>>>>>> to get involved with this. I'd honestly rather not hear about who >>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>> fighting >>>>>>>>> who, or see people tearing down each other in public. I'd rather >>>>>>>>> just >>>>>>>>> hack a >>>>>>>>> thing and assume that Sudo Room is a happy cheery place that has >>>>>>>>> their >>>>>>>>> shit >>>>>>>>> together and everyone gets along. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> My Ƀ0.02. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Saturday, April 04, 2015 03:37:39 PM WIld Cat wrote: >>>>>>>>> > These are community issues not personal issues. >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Tracy Jacobs < >>>>>>>>> kinetical(a)comcast.net> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> > > Sudoers, >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > Respectfully can I suggest that you find another way to address >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> issues of >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > > a personal nature and character assassinations or public >>>>>>>>> shaming >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> other >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > > than >>>>>>>>> > > this public mailing list? Why anyone would want to go to Sudo >>>>>>>>> room >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> after >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > > reading this mailing list is beyond my comprehension. And it >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> really is a >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > > great place. Can anyone think of another venue for these types >>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>> > > discussions? >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > Tracy >>>>>>>>> > > On Apr 4, 2015, at 2:41 PM, WIld Cat < >>>>>>>>> wildcatofthewoods(a)gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> > > Daren returned to the space about 20 mins after trying to >>>>>>>>> re-enter >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > > said to me " Do you want to go a couplwe blocks away from here >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> handle >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > > this like an adult." >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > Pidgen is claiming that I threatened her and I did tell her >>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "you need >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > > to chill out or some shit is going to happen" but I also >>>>>>>>> clarified >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> by >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > > saying "I am not threatening you with any form of violence." >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > Darin is claiming that Babs sexually assaulted someone but >>>>>>>>> Darin >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> did not >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > > give any details of what happened. >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 2:00 PM, WIld Cat < >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> wildcatofthewoods(a)gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > > wrote: >>>>>>>>> > >> Today Pidgen was asked to leave in violation of the safer >>>>>>>>> spaces >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> policy >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > >> on an admitted account of sexual assault in the past as well >>>>>>>>> as >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> recent >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > >> behaviors of harassment. Daren was asked to leave in >>>>>>>>> violation of >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > >> safer >>>>>>>>> > >> spaces policy by aggressive behavior (aggressive swearing, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> intentional >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > >> misgendering, inappropriate sexual comments (Told me in an >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> aggressive way >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > >> that he liked phone sex, than began to yell at me.) He has >>>>>>>>> had a >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> history >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > >> of >>>>>>>>> > >> being banned from spaces for similar behaviors of sexual >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> harassment and >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > >> inappropriate behavior. >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> I would like to begin a mediation process for Daren and I do >>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> feel >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > >> safe with him being in the space during such process. >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> To my knowledge there is an ongoing mediation between Pidgen >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Centi. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > >> that Pidgen has allegedly violated due to harassing behavior. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Pidgen has >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > >> been banned from several other radical spaces for entitlement >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> problems - >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > >> theft - aggressive behaivor - accountability issues. >>>>>>>>> > >> I do not feel safe in the presences of Pidgen and would call >>>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>>> > >> the >>>>>>>>> > >> community to permanently ban Pidgen. >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> > > sudo-discuss mailing list >>>>>>>>> > > sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >>>>>>>>> > > https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> sudo-discuss mailing list >>>>>>>>> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >>>>>>>>> https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> sudo-discuss mailing list >>>>>>> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >>>>>>> https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> sudo-discuss mailing list >>> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >>> https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss [1] >>> >> >> >> Links: >> ------ >> [1] https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sudo-discuss mailing list >> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >> https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss >> > >

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Software Hacking Thursdays at sudoroom - who will host?

by Jake

I run Hardware Hacking Tuesdays every week at sudoroom. It's easy, most people who show up have their own things to do, but i do bring stuff for people who want to make something and don't know what (the synthesizers) I think someone should step up and turn Thursdays into Software Hacking Thursdays. It doesn't need to have any more structure than that, just a member who is willing to show up regularly on thursday (or find a sub) and welcome new people, and introduce people to each other who have similar interests. Ideally the host can answer basic questions about getting people started toward learning whatever they're interested in. Already there is a Javascript Group that meets often at sudoroom on thursdays, but they're not always there, and not everyone knows what javascript is or wants to learn it. I believe that simply by having a regular occurence of this type of event, sudoroom will attract more people through weekly rhythm and we will grow our community of excellent people. It is already happening on tuesdays. Who is interested? -jake

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CCL label maker missing - please return!

by Patrik D'haeseleer

Has anyone seen CCL's label maker? It's been missing for a week or two now. This is the second label maker I've bought that has gone missing. If you see it, PLEASE bring it back to CCL - it is clearly labeled (duh) Time to start putting locks on the door, and security cables on all essential equipment? Sigh... Patrik

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Re: [sudo-discuss] Today 4/4/15: Pidgen and Daren have been temp banned for safer spaces policy violations

by Rachel Wolfsohn

This is very important to me, because I said I wouldn't keep including sudo discuss, and now i'm going back on that but WildCat does keep including sudo-discuss, so I feel like I can't leave it at some long email to one side bias, whether mine or not so I'm responding to sudo discuss to be heard by the group who is already hearing this sigh, i'm sorry, but I'm upset now.... *People NEED to be given a chance to change. * *Just because you knew someone for a long time and saw problematic behavior before doesn't mean they can't come to a new place, * *and a reformed community, * *where they can try to learn and grow. * *If people are not given a chance to grow what would you do with them?* * If you don't believe people can change, you don't believe in RJ or TJ, * *and I would LOVE to hear your alternative* *to my eyes the only other options are punishment or annihilation, like the state does,* * if you're really radical, you'll seek alternative forms of resolution* * besides exile, punishment and "training" people, * *whenever possible. * *NOT ONCE have I seen you actually pursue mediation. * *IN FACT WildCAt is currently refusing to participate in more than one mediation, * *and while in some cases i actually agree with that other person being banned, and see the issues clear* * my problem wtih this is not about that person being banned,* * I often think WildCat is right,* * but it's about THE PROCESS AND RESPECTING IT* *You Still Have To Go To Mediation * *In Some Case In Your Life, * *If You Recognize The Process At All* *If You're Willing To Work On It, * *The Refusal Of Mediation Is There To Keep People Safe* * In Dire Circumstances * *Not In Any Case You Want* * And Every Case All The Time* * Because You Feel Like It And It's Your Privilege* *I don't feel like you're respecting that process....* PERSONALLY I feel: Exile is not a real option for the world. If someone is continuously exiled and not educated and transforming, they will have no where else to go. This is part of the world, you can't just close yourself off from it and ignore people *If you want it to get better, really get better, judging people and pushing them out is not the way to actually help it* *What would you do with them? * *Put them all in one country? * *Kind of like a concentration of them?* * Like a camp? Kill them all off? **All bad ideas. * *We need to help people grow, and * *if you consider yourself an organizer * *or a helper of the world* * it IS your job to help people grow a* *nd give people another chance, * *provided they seek new conditions that will faciiltate growth* *It has to come from them. Yes.* *And it is coming from Darin, * *however slowly he's learning* Btw "WildCat" You are not yet a member of sudo yet. And you're scaring people, with all your bans in a row all of a sudden, now that you think you have power *i'm not quitting, but this email put me back over, i'm taking another break.* On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 11:39 AM, Cere Misc <cere.misc(a)gmail.com> wrote: > PLEASE TAKE THIS OFF THE SUDO-DISCUSS LIST! > > On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 11:32 AM, WIld Cat <wildcatofthewoods(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Also with that one month ban I feel that from then on there would need to >> be zero tolerance for any of these behaviors to continue. Last time I saw >> him he challenged me to a fight by saying " do you want to walk a couple of >> blocks away and handle this like an adult" and my response was to walk >> away.. someone brought up to me that I was causing drama by drawing the >> line with these people but what folks need to understand is that each of >> these people have been going through conflict mediation in this space so >> the drama is theirs not mine. I should not be the one to blame for the >> taking a stance against the problems these people are causing. Though to be >> accountable in dealing with peoples issues I will gather more members of >> the space to address them. >> >> >> On Monday, April 6, 2015, WIld Cat <wildcatofthewoods(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> So I have known Darin for years and he has been called out for all of >>> this behavior before and still hasn't learned. In terms of him misgendering >>> me it seemed malicious because he accentuated " man" there were several >>> witnesses to his extremely aggressive behavior that was a defensive >>> response to me calmly asking why he was yelling at Babs. sexual harassment >>> is not OK. I don't think you can speak for the other people who have called >>> him out for inappropriate flirting. I had the conflict mediated by Joe but >>> but still just acts the same to different people. I would propose a month >>> ban at least so he gets that its not being accountable will have serious >>> consequences. >>> >>> On Sunday, April 5, 2015, Rachel Wolfsohn <rawjnana(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> This is the last email I will include sudodisxuss on for this thread... >>>> >>>> Darin is currently undergoing mediation, and should be given the chance >>>> to do so before a ban goes through. >>>> >>>> I have a blocking concern for such a ban on darin.... >>>> >>>> My belief that darin can change enough, however slowly, is justified >>>> and potent. >>>> >>>> I have seen he already has. In front of me at least, he no longer >>>> misgenders anyone, including those ppl he previously had, after we >>>> discussed it one night. Even if he's pissed at them. An immediate >>>> improvement from the heart and higher self layered under psychic shit like >>>> we all have to deal with just like him, is what I see...He is actively >>>> working, works hard in general and physically protects ppl from harassment >>>> daily. >>>> >>>> Misgendering: >>>> I too have been editing "he" for "them" with you Wildcat, because your >>>> gender pronoun is recent news to me as well as to many others. >>>> I strive to use They, bc of respect for trans identity in general, and >>>> ALSO camaraderie with you. >>>> But it takes a little time, and it is in good faith with continuous >>>> editing on my part, as it is for others. >>>> I'm really sorry you are hurt by misgendering and will do my best to >>>> correct the instances I witness. As I'm sure Darin will too, now that this >>>> information is available >>>> >>>> Sexual Language: >>>> Darin is working on this too. I have twice hung out with darin and >>>> neded to comment on his comments, asking him to hold his tongue, bc it was >>>> TMI about his sexual thoughts. >>>> It was not safe space language, and I asked him to.hold his tongue, but >>>> not an implication of action either, more like expression. >>>> Without FAIL he immediately apologizes and aims to hold back such >>>> comments. He is actively learning what to reserve to his private thoughts >>>> and I appreciate it from the bottom of my heart... >>>> >>>> Thus, I have a blocking.concern for this ban suggested for Darin >>>> >>>> Love, seriously, love, >>>> >>>> On Sun, Apr 05, 2015 at 10:31 AM, Torrie Fischer < >>>> tdfischer(a)hackerbots.net> wrote: >>>> >>>> Theres community issues, then theres "issues that involve the hundreds >>>> of >>>> people subscribed to sudo-discuss". >>>> >>>> This is not one of those issues. I have no involvement with this. I >>>> don't want >>>> to get involved with this. I'd honestly rather not hear about who is >>>> fighting >>>> who, or see people tearing down each other in public. I'd rather just >>>> hack a >>>> thing and assume that Sudo Room is a happy cheery place that has their >>>> shit >>>> together and everyone gets along. >>>> >>>> My Ƀ0.02. >>>> >>>> On Saturday, April 04, 2015 03:37:39 PM WIld Cat wrote: >>>> > These are community issues not personal issues. >>>> > >>>> > On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Tracy Jacobs <kinetical(a)comcast.net> >>>> wrote: >>>> > > Sudoers, >>>> > > >>>> > > Respectfully can I suggest that you find another way to address >>>> issues of >>>> > > a personal nature and character assassinations or public shaming >>>> other >>>> > > than >>>> > > this public mailing list? Why anyone would want to go to Sudo room >>>> after >>>> > > reading this mailing list is beyond my comprehension. And it >>>> really is a >>>> > > great place. Can anyone think of another venue for these types of >>>> > > discussions? >>>> > > >>>> > > Tracy >>>> > > On Apr 4, 2015, at 2:41 PM, WIld Cat <wildcatofthewoods(a)gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> > > >>>> > > Daren returned to the space about 20 mins after trying to re-enter >>>> and >>>> > > said to me " Do you want to go a couplwe blocks away from here and >>>> handle >>>> > > this like an adult." >>>> > > >>>> > > Pidgen is claiming that I threatened her and I did tell her that >>>> "you need >>>> > > to chill out or some shit is going to happen" but I also clarified >>>> by >>>> > > saying "I am not threatening you with any form of violence." >>>> > > >>>> > > Darin is claiming that Babs sexually assaulted someone but Darin >>>> did not >>>> > > give any details of what happened. >>>> > > >>>> > > On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 2:00 PM, WIld Cat < >>>> wildcatofthewoods(a)gmail.com> >>>> > > >>>> > > wrote: >>>> > >> Today Pidgen was asked to leave in violation of the safer spaces >>>> policy >>>> > >> on an admitted account of sexual assault in the past as well as >>>> recent >>>> > >> behaviors of harassment. Daren was asked to leave in violation of >>>> the >>>> > >> safer >>>> > >> spaces policy by aggressive behavior (aggressive swearing, >>>> intentional >>>> > >> misgendering, inappropriate sexual comments (Told me in an >>>> aggressive way >>>> > >> that he liked phone sex, than began to yell at me.) He has had a >>>> history >>>> > >> of >>>> > >> being banned from spaces for similar behaviors of sexual >>>> harassment and >>>> > >> inappropriate behavior. >>>> > >> >>>> > >> I would like to begin a mediation process for Daren and I do not >>>> feel >>>> > >> safe with him being in the space during such process. >>>> > >> >>>> > >> To my knowledge there is an ongoing mediation between Pidgen and >>>> Centi. >>>> > >> that Pidgen has allegedly violated due to harassing behavior. >>>> Pidgen has >>>> > >> been banned from several other radical spaces for entitlement >>>> problems - >>>> > >> theft - aggressive behaivor - accountability issues. >>>> > >> I do not feel safe in the presences of Pidgen and would call on the >>>> > >> community to permanently ban Pidgen. >>>> > > >>>> > > _______________________________________________ >>>> > > sudo-discuss mailing list >>>> > > sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >>>> > > https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> sudo-discuss mailing list >>>> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >>>> https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss >>>> >>>> >> _______________________________________________ >> sudo-discuss mailing list >> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >> https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss >> >> > -- <3 Rachel

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Portland hackerspace?

by Candace Lazarou

Visiting Portland next week - does anyone know about the hackerspaces up there and where I should/can go to work on computer based projects?

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Fwd: [omni-helpdesk] Equipment donations

by niki

Maybe you wants? ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Pons Maar <ponzzz(a)sonic.net> Date: Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 10:35 AM Subject: [omni-helpdesk] Equipment donations To: info(a)omnicommons.org I have a 13” sony broadcast monitor (CRT not flat screen) and 2 SATA hard drives, LaCie brand 400G each, I am looking to give away. Everything is well maintained and works. Would you have any use for these items? If so I can bring them by. Thanks, Pons Maar _______________________________________________ helpdesk mailing list helpdesk(a)lists.omnicommons.org https://omnicommons.org/lists/listinfo/helpdesk

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Today 4/4/15: Pidgen and Daren have been temp banned for safer spaces policy violations

by WIld Cat

Today Pidgen was asked to leave in violation of the safer spaces policy on an admitted account of sexual assault in the past as well as recent behaviors of harassment. Daren was asked to leave in violation of the safer spaces policy by aggressive behavior (aggressive swearing, intentional misgendering, inappropriate sexual comments (Told me in an aggressive way that he liked phone sex, than began to yell at me.) He has had a history of being banned from spaces for similar behaviors of sexual harassment and inappropriate behavior. I would like to begin a mediation process for Daren and I do not feel safe with him being in the space during such process. To my knowledge there is an ongoing mediation between Pidgen and Centi. that Pidgen has allegedly violated due to harassing behavior. Pidgen has been banned from several other radical spaces for entitlement problems - theft - aggressive behaivor - accountability issues. I do not feel safe in the presences of Pidgen and would call on the community to permanently ban Pidgen.

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April invoices !

by Sarah Pritchard

Hi friends, Hopefully some of you have received invoices for April rent and March shared expenses at the Omni. You may have noticed that we've switched our invoicing software over to Quickbooks. Their credit card processing fees are much lower than Wave's (our previous software), so we're able to save the Omni a little bit of $$. Yay! If you haven't yet received your rent and shared expense invoices, check your spam folders! I noticed that emails from Quickbooks get delivered to the "promotions" tab on my gmail account. You should still be able to pay your invoices with a credit card, but let me know if you have any trouble. This is the first round of invoices we've sent using Quickbooks so there may be a few glitches to work out. Please pay your invoices as soon as you're able and let the finances working group know if you will be late in paying them or if you have any questions. Thanks and <3, SP + Finances WG

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Re: [sudo-discuss] [omni-discuss] 4/6 Dry walling

by Jenny Ryan

Thank you Joe for spearheading this important work! I'll be over in the early afternoon to help and will try to convince a friend to join me :) Cc'ing sudo-discuss. On Apr 5, 2015 4:00 PM, "joseph liesner" <blue393(a)lmi.net> wrote: > I don't see us as being ready to begin hanging dry wall on the > west end of the las Commune space. I have proposed that we > clear thespace on and surrounding that wall tomorrow 4/6. I > will have a small toyota pickup but need 2-3 workers. > Do I see a hand in the back there? > LMK > joe > > _______________________________________________ > discuss mailing list > discuss(a)lists.omnicommons.org > https://omnicommons.org/lists/listinfo/discuss > >

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donations

by Jake

yesterday i brought a bunch of stuff donated to sudoroom, including a really nice large workbench (blue, with a tool hanging rack, it only made it to La Commune so hopefully people can get it to sudo somehow...) there were three decent 64bit desktop computers, and also... a dot-matrix printer!!! a Panasonic KX-P1180: http://www.orgprint.com/imaged/O/OtODmJjWMS_9758_preview_465_240.jpg it's made for tractor-feed paper. they were using it to make wire labels, and i got some wire-label paper if we need that. But i think we should use it to print out THE IRC CHANNEL... LIVE or the TWITTER FEED... live. Since tractor-feed paper is a continuous feed, we can just print it like a continuous scroll, and always have a paper record. i dunno, maybe it's a dumb idea. maybe we should just trash it. does anyone have a box of tractor-feed paper? http://thumb7.shutterstock.com/display_pic_with_logo/137608/115044349/stock… http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/gadgetlab/2013/07/tractor-feed-printer-66…

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Re: [sudo-discuss] International Space Apps Challenge @ Omni

by Ryan

I don't think I have the physical ability right now to facilitate the event, but I'd really like to see it happen. I'm adding in sudo discuss on this because there might be folks willing to do it! Sudoers! This hackathon needs someone to facilitate the weekend and it is a paying gig with training provided. If we'd like to have Oakland be a part of this global hackathon, we'll need to come up with someone to do so! On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 5:18 PM, Lisha Sterling <lisha(a)geekswobounds.org> wrote: > Hello all! > > As you've already heard, Lindsay has bowed out of facilitating the > International Space Apps Challenge because she's just gotten another job > and there are only so many things she can pile on top of herself (new move > to a new state, new job, other life stuff). > > I've been looking for another person to facilitate the event, considering > that we've already gotten you guys involved and I don't want to just leave > it to fall apart. So far, no one I've spoken to has been available. I was > hoping that someone in Sudoroom might be interested in running the event, > and Lindsay sent out an email to that effect, but no one responded. > > So, I'm VERY sorry to have to put this on you, but now we have to make a > decision. Do we go forward? Or do we cancel? > > If there is someone in the community who is willing to facilitate the > weekend, I'm willing to pay them for doing that. I'm also able to give > training, point the facilitator to videos, articles and other resources, > and generally support that person in feeling confident in running the > weekend. I simply can't do it myself, because I will be in Greensboro, NC > running the same event there. > > What say you, sudoers? Is there someone who would like to take the event > facilitation role on? Or shall we contact the global coordinators and > apologetically pull out of the event? > > > -- > Lisha Sterling > Executive Director, Geeks Without Bounds <http://geekswobounds.org/> > telephone: 425-610-8636 hangouts: lisha(a)gwob.org > schedule a meeting with me <http://doodle.com/lishevita> >

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by Rachel Wolfsohn

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thank you xoxo

by David Keenan

Hello all you lovely humans, I hereby - Resign as board 'president' of Omni Oakland Commons. - Rescind entirely my various omni-related memberships to: Bay Area Public School, Sudo Room, and Black Hole Collective Lab. - Will unsubscribe from all omni-related mailing lists immediately following this email - I spent a substantial amount of of my life the last couple years working on, and getting other folks to believe in, this project. But as all things must end at some point, it is now time for me to bid thee all a fond farewell. I love you all, and give the greatest thanks imaginable to all the untold hours, days and years of work put into making this dream real. Nothing but love - good night David

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Re: [sudo-discuss] [sudo-sys] Gratipay Payout and Internet Archive Federal Credit Union deposit issue

by yar

On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 4:24 PM, Matthew Senate <mattsenate(a)gmail.com> wrote: > We had some issues getting Gratipay (our donation service provider at > https://gratipay.com/sudoroom) to work with their payment processing > Balanced Payments to make successful payouts (transactions) to our bank > account with IAFCU, the Internet Archive Federal Credit Union, aka the > Internet Credit Union. > > Now, the issues should be resolved. I am waiting to see the credit appear in > our IAFCU account records, but I got confirmation that Gratipay successfully > transacted the payout today via Balanced Payments. Wow. THANK YOU SO MUCH for fixing this.

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Gratipay Payout and Internet Archive Federal Credit Union deposit issue

by Matthew Senate

Hey all, We had some issues getting Gratipay (our donation service provider at https://gratipay.com/sudoroom) to work with their payment processing Balanced Payments to make successful payouts (transactions) to our bank account with IAFCU, the Internet Archive Federal Credit Union, aka the Internet Credit Union. Now, the issues should be resolved. I am waiting to see the credit appear in our IAFCU account records, but I got confirmation that Gratipay successfully transacted the payout today via Balanced Payments. These were the primary issues, which took substantial digging to figure out: 1. There seem to be some federal regulations that required our credit union to explicitly post payments to either our savings or our checking account, without ambiguity. This is done by adding a suffix to our account number for any given transaction, i.e. add "000" to correspond to our savings account. 2. However, also, when this suffix is appended to our account number, there must also be a matching value that corresponds to "savings" or "checking" called a "TRANS code". Unfortunately, gratipay did not expose this value option in their interface, despite it being supported by Balanced Payments's API. We should now have the correct suffix and the correct TRANS code that matches to deposit gratipay payouts to our savings account at IAFCU. Whew. // Matt

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Bubble

by mattsenate＠gmail.com

Anyone else notice that the NASDAQ Composite Index has about reached the nominal peak of the dotcom boom? It's not at the real value peak (i.e. adjusted for inflation), but still pretty peakish: http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/quickchart/quickchart.asp?symb=COMP&instty… It seems to me that additional market forces caused by the likes of a crisis in student debt or perhaps a natural disaster, such as an earthquake, could hasten the inevitable burst. Otherwise we may be looking at just a few years before a substantial fall in the stock market, devaluation of over-inflated "tech" companies, subsided startup investment, decrease in technology field employment, or other similar things... What might one do to prepare, as if not soon, at least inevitably there will be some stock market crash that will largely affect the wide bay area economy? // Matt

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Re: [sudo-discuss] Arduino Bootloader on the ESP8266

by Jake

that's totally excellent. I have two of those but i haven't had a chance to play with them yet. perhaps there needs to be another hacknight at sudoroom, called software hacking thursdays or something like that? since this would technically be software since the hardware is already put together... but who would host a Software Hacking Thursdays at sudoroom every week? do you have one yet? what would you do with it? i still haven't had a chance to play with openWRT and the zillions of compatible routers i have piles of. They run on a wide range of voltage (built-in buck converter) and they run linux, they have a TTL serial port and a few GPIOs.. what can't you do with them? -jake On Thursday Adam wrote: Someone managed to cram the arduino bootloader on the ESP8266 https://makezine.com/2015/04/01/esp8266-5-microcontroller-wi-fi-now-arduino… Yup. $3 wifi arduino. $1.50 in aliexpress bulk. So who's going to wifi-mesh all of oakland? --- Aperture Systems: Redefining Radiography - http://aperture.systems/ http://adammunich.com/ - Cell: +1-650-452-0554 Be • knowledgeable • social • patient • fearless • compassionate • fun • humble • forgiving. Be a leader

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Fwd: [omni-booking] REQUEST: 99% Invisible Live

by Cere Misc

Heya folks, We just got an interesting booking submission for a possible event in June. Nothing is firm about this event booking yet, but I wanted to throw it out there in case we wanted to discuss adding pieces, etc to their festival. -Cere ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Cere Misc <cere.misc(a)gmail.com> Date: Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 1:14 PM Subject: Re: [omni-booking] REQUEST: 99% Invisible Live To: Omni Commons <occupy(a)omnicommons.org> Cc: "booking(a)lists.omnicommons.org" <booking(a)lists.omnicommons.org> I would be interested in assisting with this event, possibly contributing to it, and perhaps CCL/Sudo could come up with some creations as well. On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 12:40 PM, Omni Commons <occupy(a)omnicommons.org> wrote: > > 99% Invisible Live > Omni Commons: Ballroom, 06/07/2015 3:00 pm - 6:00 pm > > The MEGAPOLIS Festival is a multi-day series of events for people to > create, experiment with, and experience sound. > > This year's Megapolis will feature a live performance by Roman Mars > presenting his popular design podcast, 99% Invisible ( > http://99percentinvisible.org/). We would need a basic PA and video > projector+screen. Roman will present one of the podcast episodes live on > stage. > > We are also interested in involving Omni collectives in some way, maybe > via workshops or presentations if there is any interest by some of the > groups. Megapolis draws about 150 attendees and we'd love for them to check > out the Omni! > > Megapolis is a volunteer run, non-profit operation. > > > User: Shani Aviram / shani(a)megapolisfestival.org > Organization: Megapolis Audio Festival > Sponsoring group: sudoroom > Relationship: friend of Sudo Room > Point person: Marina Kukso > > Attendance: 200-300 > Who is welcome? public > Amplified Sound? yes > Needs quiet? yes > > How much are you charging for admission? 10 > What are you able to pay? 300 > > To review or approve this event, please visit: > > https://omnicommons.org/occupy/wordpress/wp-admin/post.php?action=edit&post… > _______________________________________________ > booking mailing list > booking(a)lists.omnicommons.org > https://omnicommons.org/lists/listinfo/booking >

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Fwd: Sonic.net Equipment RMA Return

by Maximilian Klein

We need to return the equipment that sonic.net rented us for internet while we were using them, lest we encounter a > $100 fine. But alass I don't know where that modem and original box are. Do you? Please get in touch. Make a great day, Max Klein ‽ http://notconfusing.com/ ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: <no-reply(a)fusionbroadband.com> Date: Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 5:12 AM Subject: Sonic.net Equipment RMA Return To: isalix(a)gmail.com Our records indicate that your account has outstanding Sonic.net equipment. Failure to return this kit will result in charges. Please mark your package with the RMA number, include all components and return the package to Sonic.net, Inc. Your RMA number is: SRA06DD04 If you have any questions, please contact Customer Support at 1-888-766-4233 from 6am-11pm, Monday-Friday and 8am-10pm, Saturday and Sunday. Sonic.net, Inc. 2260 Apollo Way Santa Rosa, CA 95407

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La Commune Coffee Pot

by niki

The La Commune coffee pot is gone. Anyone seen it?

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Fwd: looking for someone to testify about IP addresses

by null null null

Anyone interested in testifying at court about how IP addresses work? It's for a good cause/you'll make a couple hundred bucks in the process. If so, get in touch with Kate Raven <raven.kate(a)gmail.com>. She's a public attorney, and you'll find her values are pretty closely aligned with those at Sudo. -null ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Kate Raven <raven.kate(a)gmail.com> Date: Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 4:38 PM Subject: Re: looking for someone to testify about IP addresses To: null null null <null(a)revolution.cheap> Null, Thanks for your help. Basically, I need someone who code testify as an "expert" in a probation violation hearing next tuesday. It should be an interesting experience for whoever does it and I should be able to pay a couple hundred bucks. Basically, the "expert" just needs to have some credentials in computer stuff above that of a lay person (I need them to be able to explain to the court what an IP address is, what an IP login is, and some stuff around this.) If anyone is interested, I can explain more but it is a really worthwhile case. Kate On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 2:48 PM, null null null <null(a)revolution.cheap> wrote: > Hey Kate! I won't have time to help, but if you write up a description of > what you're looking for, I could pass it along to the Sudo Room mailing > list. Note that it's a public list. > > In solidarity, > null > > On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 2:24 PM, Ianna Owen <ihowen(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> hey null, this is kate's email raven.kate(a)gmail.com (also CCed here). >> she's still looking for someone to testify about IP addresses. hope you two >> can find someone! >> >> <3 !! >> > >

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Re: [sudo-discuss] Omni Commons Donations

by Scott Edmonds

Can any one say if membership or access to SudoRoom comes with a donation to the campaign. And if so, what level of donation is required? A friend asked me, "Will I get a membership to use their tool shop if I donate?”. Thoughts? I don’t see why this couldn’t be incorporated somehow. - Scott

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2x25 pin header sockets

by Jake

does anyone have a pair of 2x25 pinheader sockets i can have? 0.1" spacing, looks like this: http://i01.i.aliimg.com/wsphoto/v0/633277291/10pc-2x25-Pin-2mm-Spacing-Fema… i need them to make a board to connect my STM32 Discovery board to my drone so i can run Paparazzi firmware on it. thanks! -jake

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Fwd: I'll be 15m late

by Rachel Wolfsohn

i'll be 15m late for Doc, if you see him, PLEASE let him know. thanks! (its bc i'm getting a ride, don't have my car) -- <3 Rachel -- <3 Rachel

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Fwd: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)

by Rachel Wolfsohn

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Fwd: ShareFest Listing?

by Marina Kukso

hey folks, if you have any events in may that you'd like included in the directory of east bay sharefest events, please contact syra (info below). also, i'm not on the omni list, but would appreciate it if someone would forward this to the omni as i'm sure that there are many more events that other omni folks might want to have included. best, marina ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Syra Smith <alphaguru(a)sbcglobal.net> Date: Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 4:00 PM Subject: ShareFest Listing? To: Marina Kukso <marina.kukso(a)gmail.com> Hi Marina, Do you have events in May to list with East Bay ShareFest this year? Deadline for print is April 14th. http://eastbaysharefest.weebly.com/submit-event.html Local sharing directory listings also (no deadlines): http://eastbaysharefest.weebly.com/add-directory-listing.html Check out our spanky new site. Still a work in progress =) Let me know if you have questions. Hoping you are well and looking forward to gathering again for some creative fun! Much love, Syra ________________ "We must be willing to let go of the life we've planned so as to have the life that is waiting for us" ~ Joseph Campbell

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Lost Sudoer Found on 2141 Broadway Roof After 300 Days of Bewilderment

by Maximilian Klein

>From the Oakland Tribune this morning: " The Hacker, who can only remember their identify by a bracelet reading "m3g4h347", descended from the old Sudo Room roof, to an empty common space wondering were every was. "I'd just gone upstairs for a nap before the next Bay Area public school Latin Catechism, and the next thing I knew everybody was gone," said the extremely sunburned interviewee. Popping open their ThinkPad, and seeing their 3,689 unread emails on the sudo-discuss list, they realized something was very, very wrong. "I saw a lot of mentions of 'the Omni', but I just took that to be some sort of spiritual outgrowth of the Kopimists. You know, like 'we've transcended', 'we're going to that great data-center in the sky', 'we're going to the Omni'. I think I saw reference to 'the Omni' in the 1995 classic Hackers, I'm pretty sure Angelina mentions it once in there." Speculating on what could have caused such a slumber, m3g4h347 seems to think some science went awry. "Last thing I know I was cleaning some sort of neon substance off the sudoshrooms, I did feel a bit lightheaded from the spore intake, that's why I went to the roof in the first place." After having tripped out a bit, the hacker was trapped in a dream/nightmare of answering the intercom and dealing with the landlord, but eventually reawoke almost a year later when they were hit with a bag of recycling that was flung from the lower level. M3g4h347 will rejoin next meeting on a fact finding mission to determine just who exactly neglected their mycological duties for so long, and to update openSSL on their server having only just now found out about heartbleed. "How did you let things get so bad in my absence?" " Make a great day, Max Klein ‽ http://notconfusing.com/

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Suggestions?

by niki

I'm thinking maybe deposit equal amounts of this pile of trash (passive aggressively dumped in from of a "No Trash Here Plz" sign!) in the middle of each room of the building? Seriously though - does anyone have any thoughts as to what to do about this situation? I know I'm not the only person who has dealt with the trash but seeing this only weeks after personally making a huge dump run puts me right on the very border of freak out city. I'm not making another dump run!! Help!! [image: Inline image 1]

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Visit from a makerspace founder from Greece

by Anca Mosoiu

Hi everyone, I'm not sure who is hanging out this afternoon, but I've invited Ilias to drop by Omni and meet some SudoRoom, CCL, and other commons members. Ilias is a student in Greece, visiting California to check out various maker and hacker spaces. He's hoping to create a space for fabrication and education for people of all ages. He's visited a whole lot of other spaces, including Noisebridge, Ace Monster Toys and even the LA Makerspace. If someone is around to give him a tour, or explain what's going on, it would be great. Cheers, Anca. -- -=-=-=- Anca Mosoiu | Tech Liminal anca(a)techliminal.com M: (510) 220-6660 http://techliminal.com | T: @techliminal | F: facebook.com/techliminal

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Yeah!! Hardware Hak night!!!yeah!!!!!!!!!

by Romy＠snowyla

\(:::::::)////:: Sent from my iPhone

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Re: [sudo-discuss] [omni-discuss] FNB Kitchen

by Rachel Wolfsohn

I agree, that is not respectful. You do deserve an apology, really for no messes in there to occur in the first place... Everyone pleeeeease keep FNB Kitchen CLEAN!!!! Be GRaTeFuL!!!!! On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 4:57 PM, niki <niki.shelley(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Just want to mention that its quite possible the person(s) responsible for > this are not on the mailing list! > On Mar 31, 2015 4:54 PM, "joseph liesner" <blue393(a)lmi.net> wrote: > >> My Dear Omni-Mates >> We came into the fnb kitchen this morning to find pans of greasy >> water on the stove which itself was littered with food debris. I have >> spoken with the FNB person who cleaned up after the Sunday meal >> had been cooked and I spoke to Darin and Sussie Who used the >> kitchen around 7 pm and noticed that the same messes described above >> were already present. >> Need I say this is a gross violation of the offer to share this kitchen >> and >> additionally insulting in that FNB p[rovides so much food to the Omni >> community. I would like to hear from whoever created this mess that they >> will not repeat such slovenliness or not use this kitchen again. >> Sorry but this is a Big Hammer issue >> joe >> >> _______________________________________________ >> discuss mailing list >> discuss(a)lists.omnicommons.org >> https://omnicommons.org/lists/listinfo/discuss >> >> > _______________________________________________ > discuss mailing list > discuss(a)lists.omnicommons.org > https://omnicommons.org/lists/listinfo/discuss > > -- <3 Rachel

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Fwd: Hiii :)

by Rachel Wolfsohn

---------- Mensaje reenviado ---------- De: *Francisco Jimenez* <fjfjimenezz(a)gmail.com> Fecha: lunes, 30 de marzo de 2015 Asunto: Hiii :) Para: Rachel Wolfsohn <rawjnana@gmacom> Estoy en Los Angeles. El vuelo sale a las 11 pm. Lego a Costa Rica a las 6 am de manana martes Gracias! I love all of you Omni!

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please leave orange Rigid shopvac permanently under Omni chop/rip saw

by David Keenan

Hello all, After many months, I found my long-lost shopvac the other day (large orange tubby-looking 'Rigid' brand) - it seemed to have re-emerged with the sudo cleanup.. very happy about that. I put a new filter in and installed it back under the chop saw. Please all, leave it there and do not remove it - it is set up this way to inhale the dust from the saw so there is less mess and the air remains healthier. To turn on the chopsaw, simply click on the power strip thats ziptied to the side - this turns on the vacuum too. I ask that everyone leave this setup as one unit. If you need to use the rip saw, simply lift the chopsaw stand off and unplug it, then put it back on when you're done. For normal shopvac'ing, the tall RED 'ShopVac'-brand shopvac (that I also installed a new filter to) should be the one used for other jobs. Currently I saw this one last, also in the secure storage room, but now that the orange Rigid one is returned the red one should be put the red one back in sudo room (as I believe it is sudo's anyhow - not sure why it is in the secure storage room, but probably someone thought it was the best place for it). If you need to use the random orbital sander with a shopvac (makes the sanding pads last much longer and produces far less dust too) -- in the secure storage room, there is a large black flexible vacuum tube with a sander exhaust attachment permanently taped onto it (with shiny metal tape). Attach one end to the the sander, and the other end to one of the other shopvac's (any one that is not not part of the chop/ripsaw stand setup) and you're good to go for that stuff, too. Hope this helps clarify stuffs. Love, David

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Invoice from Omni Oakland

by Omni Oakland

Hi friends, Here is Sudo Room's invoice for your State Farm insurance policy in March. Let me know if you have any questions. Otherwise, please pay as soon as you're able. Thanks! Sarah + Finances WG ------------------------ Invoice Summary -------------------------- Invoice # : 1019 Invoice Date: 03/26/2015 Due Date: 04/01/2015 Terms: Net 30 Amount Due: $96.91 The complete version has been provided as an attachment to this email. ---------------------------------------------------------------------

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Help needed to retrieve lab equipment for CCL

by Patrik D'haeseleer

Hi all, Bio-Link Depot is currently holding a FREE Biosafety Cabinet for us, that would be perfect to start up CCL's BSL-2 lab room. That means we'd be able to work with human cell lines and samples, and to isolate microorganisms with interesting properties (such as bioluminescent bacteria from squid skin, or oil degrading bacteria from soil). Catch is... we need to go get it! And soon, because there are other groups interested as well. The Bio-Link Depot is just North of the SF airport, only half an hour away if you can avoid traffic. We've been advised to pick up during daylight, so as to avoid interactions with the security around the airport. LET ME KNOW IF YOU CAN HELP OUT, and when during daytime works for you. The current plan is to rent a UHaul truck with a loading ramp, and winch it up (the cabinet is on heavy casters). But if someone has a truck with a lift gate, that would be even better. Marc - the truck we used last time, was that Rikke's? Thanks! Patrik

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Blogging your projects at Sudoroom

by Romy＠snowyla

Has anyone been blogging their projects at SudoRoom? I know Luis has been doing stuff. I think it'd be nice to document my stuff more so folks know what's possible at SudoRoom Sent from my iPhone

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someone is stealing things at sudoroom / the omni

by Jake

the other day i noticed a bunch of copper wires I had near the robot were gone. I thought it was strange that they were all taken. today Rob mentioned that someone has taken all the copper windings off of his project. He also says that a week ago, his phone was stolen from where it was with his shirt, and his shirt was found outside. We all should have seen this coming but I really don't want this to keep happening. I think we might need to start thinking about locks on the sudoroom/CCL space, on all three doors connecting the room. when members close down the space they will be able to lock the doors and then we don't have to worry as much about people tearing apart our hard work so they can cash in copper to get a few bucks... -jake

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Hey Ian is this your stolen phone chord?

by Elliot Hughes

Nick has it here at the sudoroom now. I remember it was a purple chord with tape. He claims it is his but I don't trust him.

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Fwd: Hear about ROMEO & JULIET on KPFA this Monday

by Rachel Wolfsohn

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Caitlyn Louchard <caitlynlouchard(a)gmail.com> Date: Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 2:49 PM Subject: Hear about ROMEO & JULIET on KPFA this Monday To: Caitlyn Louchard <caitlynlouchard(a)gmail.com> Hello! ROMEO & JULIET opened last night and it was So. Much. Fun. I hope you'll be able to make it out for one of our remaining shows: March 28, April 3, 4, 10 & 11, all at 8pm. Remember: come early (door open at 7) and bring an appetite! Rabble Rouser and Ring Leader of The Free Theater (me) will be on KPFA talking to Richard Wolinsky about the project this Monday, March 30 at 2:30. Tune in! You can also hear the interview any time on our website at: http://www.thefreetheater.com/#!radio-archive/c1mnf Love, thanks, all the good things! Caitlyn -- http://caitlynperrylouchard.com -- <3 Rachel

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free code music dance event today [javascript]

by Johnny

hey doers, here is a free event for/by javascript nerds. http://dancejs.io It's about code music and dancing. this is our third event. There will be free food and some hackable toys, and a dancing robot boombox. get your free tickets or just show up and say you are from sudoroom, and johnny sent you. starts at 4:30 ish til 10. once there, talk loudly about how much sweeter the event would be if we hosted it at the OMNI

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Moved microwave, toasters back upstairs

by Patrik D'haeseleer

Hi all, I moved the microwave, toaster, and toaster oven out of CCL and back upstairs. Keeping our lab clean enough to do real work is hard enough as it is without having kitchen appliances all over the place. (Someone had also moved the microwave into the wetlab part of CCL, which is most definitely NOT ok.) The major electrical problem that required these appliances to move out of the kitchen area upstairs has been resolved weeks ago, so there's no reason for them to stay down here. I have not yet plugged them in upstairs, but they should obviously NOT be plugged into the same circuit... Thanks! Patrik

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