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by imogen

An anti apartheid pledge is a fine start, but I wish it was broader to include all forms of targeted-group killing. Anyway, thanks Paige for bringing up process. Maybe someone could take a pole On 2025-06-06 14:41, Geffen Avraham wrote: > I condemn genocide of Palestinians.... and I condemn murdering > Israelis too. > If you believe that 6 million of the world's jews are essentially evil > and deserve no empathy - go ahead and invite stormfront, i'm sure > they'd love this. &… [View More]gt; > On Fri, Jun 6, 2025 at 2:30 PM Geffen Avraham > <arora.tintin(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> i dream of one day gaza being a thriving shining city of the arab >> world, coexisting with its jewish neighbors as a beacon of beauty >> and freedom in the middle east. >> >> the people of israel want this. the people of gaza want this. the >> people who don't want this are war criminal netanyahu and hamas. >> >> in 2021, when netanyahu was briefly removed from office, yair lapid >> offered to free gaza, end the siege, rebuild their cities at israeli >> expense, make them a new airport an seaport, help provide them jobs, >> and even build them an entirely new city as reparations. >> >> they asked only one thing in return - not being murdered anymore. a >> permanent ceasefire. >> >> hamas declared it "temptation" and refused. >> >> Free Gaza and Permanent Ceasefire - exactly what we all want >> The Islamic Resistance Movement (Hamas) wanted to kill jews and said >> no. >> >> You can read about it in Al-Mayadeen - an anti-Israel, pro-Hamas, >> Hezbollah-owned Arabic Lebanese newspaper: >> > https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/sources-to-al-mayadeen:-hamas-… >> >> I pray deeply that I live to see Gaza free of Israeli occupation, >> free of bombing and violence, free of Islamic theocracy, and at >> peace with its Jewish brothers. >> >> On Fri, Jun 6, 2025 at 2:22 PM Geffen Avraham >> <arora.tintin(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Seriously, that's where we're we've gotten to? Raising concerns >> about antisemitism means you're a racist? >> >> Jake has tried to ban me for daring to raise concerns about >> anti-jewish racism. >> >> i have funded and kept sudo alive during times when it was at risk >> of foreclosure. at no point have i made any apologia for any israeli >> crimes, only criticism of arab nationalism and islamic theocracy. >> >> the amount of people america bombed in one night in dresden is more >> than all the people killed in gaza in 2 years. but i don't support >> bombing gaza, so stop spreading this lie about me. >> >> but you clearly don't want to stop the genocide, you want to swap >> the genocide. >> >> if you support abducting an infant from his mother's arms and >> keeping him in a tunnel - not an accidental death from a bombing, >> but an 8 month old ripped knowingly and intentionally by human hands >> from his family - say it so we can hear you. >> >> is your official position that half the world's jews are >> ontologically evil and not welcome at sudo, and that antisemtism is >> not real and it's racist to raise concerns about it? >> >> if so, please say it out loud so we can all hear you. >> >> If i get banned after this, let me serve as a canary in the coal >> mine - that without making any apologia for israeli war crimes, only >> pointing out the deep feeling of danger and lack of safety jews feel >> and daring to have empathy for 6 million of the world's jews, will >> ban you from this space. >> >> On Thu, Jun 5, 2025 at 9:51 PM Geffen Avraham >> <arora.tintin(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> disappointed at the lack of uncritical support of arab nationalism >> and islamic extremism? >> trying to pretend religion has nothing to do with this conflict is >> like trying to pretend the civil war wasn't about slavery. >> >> neoconfederates who make this claim have to squint and wave away >> statements like Alexander H Stephens' Cornerstone Speech: "_slavery >> subordination to the superior race is his natural and normal >> condition" _or the Mississippi Declaration of Secession: >> _"Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of >> slavery-- the greatest material interest of the world."_ >> >> I couldn't understand how people could do this until I saw them deny >> and wave away religious extremism and antisemitism, whether from the >> Secretary-General of the Arab League: >> “I personally wish that the Jews do not drive us to this war, as >> this will be a war of extermination and momentous massacre which >> will be spoken of like the Tartar massacre or the Crusader wars. >> This war will be distinguished by three serious matters. >> First—faith: as each fighter deems his death on behalf of >> Palestine as the shortest road to paradise;" >> >> It is plainly stated in the genocidal charter of Hamas, and in their >> naming of the Oct 7 massacre after Al-Aqsa Mosque: >> >> 'Peace initiatives, and so-called peaceful solutions and >> international conferences are in contradiction to the principles >> of the Islamic Resistance Movement... Those conferences are no more >> than a means to appoint the infidels as arbitrators in the >> lands of Islam... There is no solution for the Palestinian problem >> except by Jihad.' >> >> Or even from the PNA government of today, which published an >> official government statement referring readers to the infamous >> Hadith that the day of judgement will not come until you kill the >> Jews. >> >> Yet people continue to squint and pretend that it's not about >> religious conflict. I recently watched the documentary "No Other >> Land", and, knowing a bit of Arabic, noticed that whenever the >> subtitles said "Israeli", the people were saying the word "Yahud" - >> Jew. Same when a protest passed by my house recently - the leaders >> were chanting in Arabic for the followers to repeat: "from water to >> water, Palestine is Arab" >> >> At no point above have I made any apologia for any Israeli actions - >> only pointed out the Palestine movement is not aligned with treating >> Jews as human beings - very openly not so in Arabic. And in Arabic, >> they make no distinction between "Jew" and "Israeli", and say >> "Arab", not "free". >> >> But nevertheless I must request a source for your claim that Israel >> created a fake feeding site and shot people who went there. >> >> On Thu, Jun 5, 2025 at 9:30 PM Jake Watters via sudo-discuss >> <sudo-discuss(a)sudoroom.org> wrote: >> >> presently Israel is starving 2.2 million people to death inside a >> concentration camp, and they set up a fake "food distribution site" >> and shoot to kill anyone who approaches it. >> >> I was really hoping this "anti apartheid" proposal would be able to >> go through more easily and I'm extremely disappointed in what's >> happening here. >> >> -jake >> >> On Thu, Jun 5, 2025 at 7:37 PM Paige P via sudo-discuss >> <sudo-discuss(a)sudoroom.org> wrote: >> >> I support us doing the Apartheid-Free Communities pledge. >> >> Aside: This thread brings up a good question of how do we >> decision-make? >> >> I looked at the wiki to see if there was any old protocol. There's >> this page that looks just like a brainstorming page: >> https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Sudo_room/decisions >> >> Also there's our bylaws, which have been newly made: >> https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Bylaws. We can have our internal way of >> doing things, but I would feel more comfortable if we had our bylaws >> match what we do as closely as possible so that we can confidently >> make decisions. And I think our bylaws as is are a good starting >> point: My understanding is our bylaws allow for a vote on things via >> ballot by members. Quorum for the vote is 7 people, and the decision >> is made by majority vote. >> >> SECTION 12. ACTION BY WRITTEN BALLOT WITHOUT A MEETING >> >> * (a) Any action which may be taken at any regular or special >> meeting of members may be taken without a meeting if the corporation >> distributes a written ballot to every member entitled to vote on the >> matter. The ballot and any related material may be sent by >> electronic transmission and responses may be returned to the >> corporation by electronic transmission. The ballot shall set forth >> the proposed action, provide an opportunity to specify approval or >> disapproval of any proposal, and provide a reasonable time within >> which to return the ballot to the corporation. >> * (b) Approval by written ballot pursuant to this section shall be >> valid only when the number of votes cast by ballot within the time >> period specified equals or exceeds the quorum required to be present >> at a meeting authorizing the action, and the number of approvals >> equals or exceeds the number of votes that would be required to >> approve at a meeting at which the total number of votes cast was the >> same as the number of votes cast by ballot. >> * (c) Ballots shall indicate the number of responses needed to meet >> the quorum requirement and, with respect to ballots other than for >> the election of directors, shall state the percentage of approvals >> necessary to pass the measure submitted. Ballots must specify the >> time by which the ballot must be received in order to be counted. >> * (d) A written ballot may not be revoked. >> >> SECTION 5. QUORUM FOR MEETINGS >> >> A quorum of the Members shall consist of at least seven (7) Members >> of the Corporation in good standing as of the date of the vote. The >> members present at a duly called and held meeting at which a quorum >> is initially present may continue to do business notwithstanding the >> loss of a quorum at the meeting due to a withdrawal of members from >> the meeting provided that any action taken after the loss of a >> quorum must be approved by at least a majority of the members >> required to constitute a quorum. >> >> On Thu, Jun 5, 2025 at 4:10 PM imogen via sudo-discuss >> <sudo-discuss(a)sudoroom.org> wrote: >> As an anarchist pacifist, I am not in support of signing because I >> think >> that both "sides" are in the wrong. The land issue is a religious >> issue >> and both Islam and Judaism are problematic institutions. >> >> On 2025-06-05 15:56, Jake Watters via sudo-discuss wrote: >>> if there are no objections can we go ahead and sign it? >>> >>> On Wed, Jun 4, 2025 at 11:13 PM Aaron Fenyes via sudo-discuss >>> <sudo-discuss(a)sudoroom.org> wrote: >>> >>>> Jake, Lo, and I (Aaron) talked about the Apartheid-Free >> Communities >>>> pledge at tonight's meeting! Here are some combined thoughts. >>>> >>>> === We should sign as soon as possible === >>>> >>>> Signing the pledge will counteract ongoing harm in a small but >> real >>>> way, so we should sign it as soon as possible. >>>> >>>> === Our obligations === >>>> >>>> Here's an idea of what we think we're promising to do, as an >>>> organization, by signing the pledge. >>>> >>>> --- Items 1-3 --- >>>> >>>>> WE AFFIRM our commitment to freedom, justice, and >>>>> equality for the Palestinian people and all people >>>>> >>>>> WE OPPOSE all forms of racism, bigotry, >>>>> discrimination, and oppression >>>>> >>>>> WE DECLARE ourselves an Apartheid-free community >>>> >>>> These are things we have or should have affirmed already, so >>>> (re)affirming them presumably won't change anything about how we >>>> operate. >>>> >>>> --- Item 4 --- >>>> >>>>> WE PLEDGE to join others in working to end all support to >> Israel's >>>>> Apartheid regime, settler colonialism, and military occupation. >>>> >>>> Here are some ways we can uphold this promise. >>>> >>>> - Sign the pledge. As Lo pointed out in the quoted e-mails below, >>>> just putting our name on the list of signatories already helps >>>> uphold our obligations: "It reflects public support to our >> elected >>>> officials when we press them to divest from Israeli violence. It >>>> reduces harm to Palestinian and Arab members of our community. It >>>> challenges the official narratives and expands the public >>>> consciousness around Palestine." >>>> >>>> - Confirm on our wiki that we've signed the pledge, and add the >>>> Apartheid-Free Communities logo. >>>> >>>> - Facilitate (and, if possible, promote) the use of our space by >>>> organizations "working to end all support to Israel's Apartheid >>>> regime, settler colonialism, and military occupation." >>>> >>>> - Provide information resources (like flyers, zines, articles, >> book >>>> chapters, and a listening / watching / reading list) in the >> space. >>>> >>>> === Background on the campaign === >>>> >>>> This Apartheid-Free Communities campaign is financed by the >> American >>>> Friends Service Committee, a Quaker organization. You can find >> some >>>> steering committee members on the campaign site's "About" page >>>> (https://apartheid-free.org/about/). >>>> >>>> All the listed steering committee members are Christian or >> Unitarian >>>> organizations, which for one of us (Aaron) is kind of a red flag. >>>> >>>> On the other hand, the list of pledge signatories seems to >> include >>>> more diverse religious organizations. In particular, it has a >> good >>>> number of Jewish organizations, including the national and Bay >> Area >>>> chapters of Jewish Voice for Peace. >>>> >>>>> On Mon, 2 Jun 2025, Jake Watters via sudo-discuss wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Let's have a meeting this coming Wednesday, in two days! Last >>>> week just >>>>>> three or four of us got together and discussed things as can be >>>> seen in the >>>>>> meeting notes: >>>>>> https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Meetings >>>>>> >>>>>> Here's a proposed agenda: >>>>>> * catch up on new membership applications >>>>>> * continue talking about the process of sudoroom becoming its >>>> own 501(c)3 >>>>>> * the volunteer effort of updating our membership list >>>>>> * fundraising including reaching out to members who may have >>>> forgotten to >>>>>> pay dues >>>>>> * sudoroom signing the "Apartheid-Free Communities" pledge! See >>>> below for >>>>>> more info >>>>>> >>>>>> Lets say this Wednesday, 7:30PM? >>>>>> -jake >>>>>> >>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>>>>> From: Lo via sudo-discuss sudo-discuss(a)sudoroom.org >>>>>> Date: Tue, May 27, 2025 at 7:37 PM >>>>>> Subject: [sudo-discuss] Proposal: SUDO room joins the Apartheid >>>> Free >>>>>> Communities Campaign >>>>>> To: sudo-discuss(a)sudoroom.org >>>>>> >>>>>> Dear Sudoroom members and leaders, >>>>>> >>>>>> For the past 2.5 years I’ve been a Sudoroom “member” (I >>>> say this in >>>>>> quotations because I’ve been paying dues and attending but >>>> have never been >>>>>> endorsed as a full fledged member), but I’d like to make a >>>> proposal that >>>>>> Sudoroom become an Apartheid Free Community! >>>>>> >>>>>> I am writing as a member of SURJ Bay Area’s Palestine >>>> Solidarity Campaign. >>>>>> As a racial justice organization, SURJ believes it is our moral >>>> obligation >>>>>> to demand an end to Israel’s system of apartheid, its >> genocide >>>> in Gaza, and >>>>>> its increasing violent seizure of land in the West Bank. All >>>> this is paid >>>>>> for by our tax dollars, with the U.S. directly funding the >>>> Israeli >>>>>> government to the tune of $35 billion a year. >>>>>> >>>>>> We invite Sudoroom to join us to support the Palestinian >>>> people’s human >>>>>> rights, lives, and lands by taking the pledge to become an >>>> Apartheid-Free >>>>>> Community. >>>>>> >>>>>> Apartheid is a crime against humanity. As defined by the United >>>> Nations >>>>>> https://legal.un.org/avl/ha/cspca/cspca.html, apartheid >>>> includes: >>>>>> >>>>>> • Acts such as murder, torture, inhuman treatment, and >>>> arbitrary arrest of >>>>>> members of a racial group >>>>>> >>>>>> • Deliberate imposition upon the subjugated racial group of >>>> living >>>>>> conditions calculated to cause its physical destruction >>>>>> >>>>>> • Legislative measures that discriminate in the political, >>>> social, >>>>>> economic, and cultural fields >>>>>> >>>>>> We could fill pages with examples of how Israel’s treatment >> of >>>> Palestinians >>>>>> meets this criteria—from arrests and imprisonment without >>>> charges to the >>>>>> destruction of Gaza by bombing homes, hospitals, and schools >> and >>>> cutting >>>>>> off food, water, electricity and medical supplies. Palestinians >>>> are >>>>>> subjected to entirely different laws and judicial systems, >>>> without freedom >>>>>> of movement and economic opportunities. >>>>>> >>>>>> Inspired by the anti-apartheid movement that helped topple the >>>> white >>>>>> supremacist regime in South Africa, the Apartheid-Free >>>> Communities Campaign >>>>>> is bringing communities together to end apartheid in >>>> Israel/Palestine. We >>>>>> encourage Sudoroom to join the over 500 organizations across >> the >>>> globe, >>>>>> including cities, schools, faith-based communities, labor >>>> unions, >>>>>> businesses, and organizations, in taking the pledge to become >> an >>>>>> Apartheid-Free Community. >>>>>> >>>>>> Signing the Pledge makes a difference! It reflects public >>>> support to our >>>>>> elected officials when we press them to divest from Israeli >>>> violence. It >>>>>> reduces harm to Palestinian and Arab members of our community. >>>> It >>>>>> challenges the official narratives and expands the public >>>> consciousness >>>>>> around Palestine. We ask that you sign this pledge, and take >>>> actions, in >>>>>> whatever way makes sense to Sudoroom, to be part of this >> effort. >>>>>> >>>>>> Be sure to let me know if you have any questions and how I can >>>> support your >>>>>> Sudoroom in signing the Pledge and joining this campaign. >>>>>> >>>>>> In Solidarity, >>>>>> >>>>>> Lo >>>>>> >>>>>> P.S. We have materials including buttons, posters, and >> pamphlets >>>> you can >>>>>> use to increase awareness and build support. Plus the >>>> Apartheid-Free >>>>>> Communities website https://apartheid-free.org/about/ is full >> of >>>> great >>>>>> resources and educational materials. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> *Lo * >>>>>> Pronouns: She/They https://www.mypronouns.org/ >>>>>> >>>>>> There is no neutral body from which our bodies deviate. Society >>>> has >>>>>> written deep into each strand of tissue of every living person >>>> on earth. >>>>>> What it writes into the heart muscles of five star generals is >>>> distinct >>>>>> from what it writes in the pancreatic tissue and intestinal >>>> tracts of Black >>>>>> single mothers in Detroit, of Mexicana migrants in Fresno, but >>>> no body >>>>>> stands outside the consequences of injustice and inequality >>>>>> >>>>>> *― *Aurora Levins Morales >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> sudo-discuss mailing list -- sudo-discuss(a)sudoroom.org >>>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to sudo-discuss-leave(a)sudoroom.org >>>>>> More options at >>>>>> >>>> >>> >> > https://sudoroom.org/lists/postorius/lists/sudo-discuss.sudoroom.org/ >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> sudo-discuss mailing list -- sudo-discuss(a)sudoroom.org >>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to sudo-discuss-leave(a)sudoroom.org >>>>> More options at >>>> >>> >> > https://sudoroom.org/lists/postorius/lists/sudo-discuss.sudoroom.org/ >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> sudo-discuss mailing list -- sudo-discuss(a)sudoroom.org >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to sudo-discuss-leave(a)sudoroom.org >>>> More options at >>>> >>> >> > https://sudoroom.org/lists/postorius/lists/sudo-discuss.sudoroom.org/ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> sudo-discuss mailing list -- sudo-discuss(a)sudoroom.org >>> To unsubscribe send an email to sudo-discuss-leave(a)sudoroom.org >>> More options at >>> >> > https://sudoroom.org/lists/postorius/lists/sudo-discuss.sudoroom.org/ >> _______________________________________________ >> sudo-discuss mailing list -- sudo-discuss(a)sudoroom.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to sudo-discuss-leave(a)sudoroom.org >> More options at >> > https://sudoroom.org/lists/postorius/lists/sudo-discuss.sudoroom.org/ >> _______________________________________________ >> sudo-discuss mailing list -- sudo-discuss(a)sudoroom.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to sudo-discuss-leave(a)sudoroom.org >> More options at >> > https://sudoroom.org/lists/postorius/lists/sudo-discuss.sudoroom.org/ > _______________________________________________ > sudo-discuss mailing list -- sudo-discuss(a)sudoroom.org > To unsubscribe send an email to sudo-discuss-leave(a)sudoroom.org > More options at > https://sudoroom.org/lists/postorius/lists/sudo-discuss.sudoroom.org/ [View Less]

2 months, 3 weeks

Apartheid-Free Communities pledge

by Aaron Fenyes

Jake, Lo, and I (Aaron) talked about the Apartheid-Free Communities pledge at tonight's meeting! Here are some combined thoughts. === We should sign as soon as possible === Signing the pledge will counteract ongoing harm in a small but real way, so we should sign it as soon as possible. === Our obligations === Here's an idea of what we think we're promising to do, as an organization, by signing the pledge. --- Items 1-3 --- > WE AFFIRM our commitment to freedom, justice, and > … [View More]equality for the Palestinian people and all people > > WE OPPOSE all forms of racism, bigotry, > discrimination, and oppression > > WE DECLARE ourselves an Apartheid-free community These are things we have or should have affirmed already, so (re)affirming them presumably won't change anything about how we operate. --- Item 4 --- > WE PLEDGE to join others in working to end all support to Israel's > Apartheid regime, settler colonialism, and military occupation. Here are some ways we can uphold this promise. - Sign the pledge. As Lo pointed out in the quoted e-mails below, just putting our name on the list of signatories already helps uphold our obligations: "It reflects public support to our elected officials when we press them to divest from Israeli violence. It reduces harm to Palestinian and Arab members of our community. It challenges the official narratives and expands the public consciousness around Palestine." - Confirm on our wiki that we've signed the pledge, and add the Apartheid-Free Communities logo. - Facilitate (and, if possible, promote) the use of our space by organizations "working to end all support to Israel's Apartheid regime, settler colonialism, and military occupation." - Provide information resources (like flyers, zines, articles, book chapters, and a listening / watching / reading list) in the space. === Background on the campaign === This Apartheid-Free Communities campaign is financed by the American Friends Service Committee, a Quaker organization. You can find some steering committee members on the campaign site's "About" page (https://apartheid-free.org/about/). All the listed steering committee members are Christian or Unitarian organizations, which for one of us (Aaron) is kind of a red flag. On the other hand, the list of pledge signatories seems to include more diverse religious organizations. In particular, it has a good number of Jewish organizations, including the national and Bay Area chapters of Jewish Voice for Peace. > On Mon, 2 Jun 2025, Jake Watters via sudo-discuss wrote: > > > Let's have a meeting this coming Wednesday, in two days! Last week just > > three or four of us got together and discussed things as can be seen in the > > meeting notes: > > https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Meetings > > > > Here's a proposed agenda: > > * catch up on new membership applications > > * continue talking about the process of sudoroom becoming its own 501(c)3 > > * the volunteer effort of updating our membership list > > * fundraising including reaching out to members who may have forgotten to > > pay dues > > * sudoroom signing the "Apartheid-Free Communities" pledge! See below for > > more info > > > > Lets say this Wednesday, 7:30PM? > > -jake > > > > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > > From: Lo via sudo-discuss sudo-discuss(a)sudoroom.org > > Date: Tue, May 27, 2025 at 7:37 PM > > Subject: [sudo-discuss] Proposal: SUDO room joins the Apartheid Free > > Communities Campaign > > To: sudo-discuss(a)sudoroom.org > > > > Dear Sudoroom members and leaders, > > > > For the past 2.5 years I’ve been a Sudoroom “member” (I say this in > > quotations because I’ve been paying dues and attending but have never been > > endorsed as a full fledged member), but I’d like to make a proposal that > > Sudoroom become an Apartheid Free Community! > > > > I am writing as a member of SURJ Bay Area’s Palestine Solidarity Campaign. > > As a racial justice organization, SURJ believes it is our moral obligation > > to demand an end to Israel’s system of apartheid, its genocide in Gaza, and > > its increasing violent seizure of land in the West Bank. All this is paid > > for by our tax dollars, with the U.S. directly funding the Israeli > > government to the tune of $35 billion a year. > > > > We invite Sudoroom to join us to support the Palestinian people’s human > > rights, lives, and lands by taking the pledge to become an Apartheid-Free > > Community. > > > > Apartheid is a crime against humanity. As defined by the United Nations > > https://legal.un.org/avl/ha/cspca/cspca.html, apartheid includes: > > > > • Acts such as murder, torture, inhuman treatment, and arbitrary arrest of > > members of a racial group > > > > • Deliberate imposition upon the subjugated racial group of living > > conditions calculated to cause its physical destruction > > > > • Legislative measures that discriminate in the political, social, > > economic, and cultural fields > > > > We could fill pages with examples of how Israel’s treatment of Palestinians > > meets this criteria—from arrests and imprisonment without charges to the > > destruction of Gaza by bombing homes, hospitals, and schools and cutting > > off food, water, electricity and medical supplies. Palestinians are > > subjected to entirely different laws and judicial systems, without freedom > > of movement and economic opportunities. > > > > Inspired by the anti-apartheid movement that helped topple the white > > supremacist regime in South Africa, the Apartheid-Free Communities Campaign > > is bringing communities together to end apartheid in Israel/Palestine. We > > encourage Sudoroom to join the over 500 organizations across the globe, > > including cities, schools, faith-based communities, labor unions, > > businesses, and organizations, in taking the pledge to become an > > Apartheid-Free Community. > > > > Signing the Pledge makes a difference! It reflects public support to our > > elected officials when we press them to divest from Israeli violence. It > > reduces harm to Palestinian and Arab members of our community. It > > challenges the official narratives and expands the public consciousness > > around Palestine. We ask that you sign this pledge, and take actions, in > > whatever way makes sense to Sudoroom, to be part of this effort. > > > > Be sure to let me know if you have any questions and how I can support your > > Sudoroom in signing the Pledge and joining this campaign. > > > > In Solidarity, > > > > Lo > > > > P.S. We have materials including buttons, posters, and pamphlets you can > > use to increase awareness and build support. Plus the Apartheid-Free > > Communities website https://apartheid-free.org/about/ is full of great > > resources and educational materials. > > > > -- > > *Lo * > > Pronouns: She/They https://www.mypronouns.org/ > > > > There is no neutral body from which our bodies deviate. Society has > > written deep into each strand of tissue of every living person on earth. > > What it writes into the heart muscles of five star generals is distinct > > from what it writes in the pancreatic tissue and intestinal tracts of Black > > single mothers in Detroit, of Mexicana migrants in Fresno, but no body > > stands outside the consequences of injustice and inequality > > > > *― *Aurora Levins Morales > > > > _______________________________________________ > > sudo-discuss mailing list -- sudo-discuss(a)sudoroom.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to sudo-discuss-leave(a)sudoroom.org > > More options at > > https://sudoroom.org/lists/postorius/lists/sudo-discuss.sudoroom.org/ > > _______________________________________________ > > sudo-discuss mailing list -- sudo-discuss(a)sudoroom.org > To unsubscribe send an email to sudo-discuss-leave(a)sudoroom.org > More options at https://sudoroom.org/lists/postorius/lists/sudo-discuss.sudoroom.org/ [View Less]

2 months, 3 weeks

Engineer Fixes and Re-Installs Old Payphones, Provides Free Calls

by Peter Mui

This person in Vermont restores old pay phones and converts them to IP phones. We've got an old pay phone in sudoroom: anyone want to try this? =Peter https://www.core77.com/posts/137183/Engineer-Fixes-and-Re-Installs-Old-Payp… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwXTUM2Y7L0

2 months, 3 weeks

film screenings

by imogen

Hiii~ I am going to project some movies in SR. Tomorrow 7pm: Frances Ha (2012), and Saturday 7pm: Desolation Center (2018). Feel free to join. -I

2 months, 3 weeks

Meeting tonight (wednesday)

by Jake

I just want to bump this so people show up for a meeting tonight! Also afterwards maybe we can do some organizing of bins, cords on the floor, and dead/ancient laptops to be sent off to e-waste! We have too many old dead laptops in the metal cabinet and need to make room for newer ones that can be fixed. see you tonight? On Mon, 2 Jun 2025, Jake Watters via sudo-discuss wrote: > Let's have a meeting this coming Wednesday, in two days! Last week just > three or four of us got … [View More]together and discussed things as can be seen in the > meeting notes: > https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Meetings > > Here's a proposed agenda: > * catch up on new membership applications > * continue talking about the process of sudoroom becoming its own 501(c)3 > * the volunteer effort of updating our membership list > * fundraising including reaching out to members who may have forgotten to > pay dues > * sudoroom signing the "Apartheid-Free Communities" pledge! See below for > more info > > Lets say this Wednesday, 7:30PM? > -jake > > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: Lo via sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss(a)sudoroom.org> > Date: Tue, May 27, 2025 at 7:37 PM > Subject: [sudo-discuss] Proposal: SUDO room joins the Apartheid Free > Communities Campaign > To: <sudo-discuss(a)sudoroom.org> > > Dear Sudoroom members and leaders, > > > > For the past 2.5 years I’ve been a Sudoroom “member” (I say this in > quotations because I’ve been paying dues and attending but have never been > endorsed as a full fledged member), but I’d like to make a proposal that > Sudoroom become an Apartheid Free Community! > > I am writing as a member of SURJ Bay Area’s Palestine Solidarity Campaign. > As a racial justice organization, SURJ believes it is our moral obligation > to demand an end to Israel’s system of apartheid, its genocide in Gaza, and > its increasing violent seizure of land in the West Bank. All this is paid > for by our tax dollars, with the U.S. directly funding the Israeli > government to the tune of $35 billion a year. > > > > We invite Sudoroom to join us to support the Palestinian people’s human > rights, lives, and lands by taking the pledge to become an Apartheid-Free > Community. > > > > Apartheid is a crime against humanity. As defined by the United Nations > <https://legal.un.org/avl/ha/cspca/cspca.html>, apartheid includes: > > • Acts such as murder, torture, inhuman treatment, and arbitrary arrest of > members of a racial group > > • Deliberate imposition upon the subjugated racial group of living > conditions calculated to cause its physical destruction > > • Legislative measures that discriminate in the political, social, > economic, and cultural fields > > > > We could fill pages with examples of how Israel’s treatment of Palestinians > meets this criteria—from arrests and imprisonment without charges to the > destruction of Gaza by bombing homes, hospitals, and schools and cutting > off food, water, electricity and medical supplies. Palestinians are > subjected to entirely different laws and judicial systems, without freedom > of movement and economic opportunities. > > > > Inspired by the anti-apartheid movement that helped topple the white > supremacist regime in South Africa, the Apartheid-Free Communities Campaign > is bringing communities together to end apartheid in Israel/Palestine. We > encourage Sudoroom to join the over 500 organizations across the globe, > including cities, schools, faith-based communities, labor unions, > businesses, and organizations, in taking the pledge to become an > Apartheid-Free Community. > > > > Signing the Pledge makes a difference! It reflects public support to our > elected officials when we press them to divest from Israeli violence. It > reduces harm to Palestinian and Arab members of our community. It > challenges the official narratives and expands the public consciousness > around Palestine. We ask that you sign this pledge, and take actions, in > whatever way makes sense to Sudoroom, to be part of this effort. > > > > Be sure to let me know if you have any questions and how I can support your > Sudoroom in signing the Pledge and joining this campaign. > > > > In Solidarity, > > Lo > > > P.S. We have materials including buttons, posters, and pamphlets you can > use to increase awareness and build support. Plus the Apartheid-Free > Communities website <https://apartheid-free.org/about/> is full of great > resources and educational materials. > > -- > *Lo * > *Pronouns: She/They <https://www.mypronouns.org/>* > > > *There is no neutral body from which our bodies deviate. Society has > written deep into each strand of tissue of every living person on earth. > What it writes into the heart muscles of five star generals is distinct > from what it writes in the pancreatic tissue and intestinal tracts of Black > single mothers in Detroit, of Mexicana migrants in Fresno, but no body > stands outside the consequences of injustice and inequality* > > *― *Aurora Levins Morales > > _______________________________________________ > sudo-discuss mailing list -- sudo-discuss(a)sudoroom.org > To unsubscribe send an email to sudo-discuss-leave(a)sudoroom.org > More options at > https://sudoroom.org/lists/postorius/lists/sudo-discuss.sudoroom.org/ > [View Less]

2 months, 3 weeks

Intro: Justin Morrison

by Justin Morrison

Hi Sudoroom, It's been a minute. Just moved back to the Bay, West Oakland. Noisebridge member <https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/User:Justinmorrison> but looking to be more engaged here, where I live, and more Queer. Hello! Here's a throwback to me performing at Sudoroom in 2013 (video): https://justin.dance/2013/03/16/video-oakland-nights-sudoroom-christine-bon… So, who's interested in improvising, dancing, mo-cap, sensors, projection, audio & visual synthesis, noise music, … [View More]

2 months, 3 weeks

Mailing list issues

by Sean Greenslade

Hi, all. Just wanted to let everyone know that there was a hiccup with the sudoroom mailing lists that caused most (all?) messages since around May 31 to get stuck waiting to be sent out. I've cleared the blockage, so apologies for the small avalance of emails you've just received / are about to receive. I'll be keeping an eye on things, but please send me a direct email if you try to post to a sudoroom.org email list and it doesn't seem to go out in a timely manner (~15 minutes or so). --Sean

2 months, 3 weeks

What's on the menu tonight?

by Ivan Silva

Alice wanted me to share that she is bringing a bean salad and hummus tonight. I'll bring a baguette. It's a good pairing. I think.

2 months, 3 weeks

Tonight at Sudoroom

by Peter Mui

Hi Sudoers: Here’s some things we might do at Sudoroom tonight: -We have yet another big flat screen TV to work on, a TCL 55C807 Apparently this is a TCL C807 series: on providing power it looks like the panel is working but there’s no video signal except for a patterned horizontal white stripe. Can someone research what might be wrong with it? It’d be great to get at least one of these big displays working so we can telepresence people in to sudoroom, and to build out a large flat screen … [View More]

2 months, 3 weeks

I have put up the June 2 women and nonbinary night lu.ma!!!

by Romy Ilano

https://lu.ma/zio5fbke ============================= Romy Ilano romy(a)snowyla.com

3 months

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